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#1 Short Circuit

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:34 AM

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR FELLOW DINAR VETS.
Ok here we go, I was wondering, "because we all wonder all kinds of things" if it could be possible, based upon Maliki's ongoing week after week's announcements
of next Tuesday's or Thursday's or whatever day's of the 2 or 3 or 4 security ministers, "IF" that could somehow be tied to maybe the "US" "FED" doing every last minute thing (like changing or implementing new Tax laws) it could
possibly do to ensure that when the dinar does RV, that their is no way that any Dinar holder could escape taxation and to ensure it would receive all moneys due to Govt.
If you would kindly elaborate and offer your opinions and views.

Thanks Much, Short Circuit. :)
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:41 AM

JMO Iraq is just the pawn, the Rothchilds are controling the movement.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:42 AM

Nope.....the US is not in control of another countries exchange rate and what they do with their currency......it just happens to be a coincidence about the tax laws changing and the options you had when exchanging your dinar....I think people read too much sometimes into things trying to tie it into meaning its relating to the RV.....this is all on Iraqs time, no one is holding them back from doing what they need to do to grow and succeed economically. Apparently there are simply more things needing to be accomplished before they can start raising the value of the dinar.....and im pretty sure no one knows exactly what those things are but I would venture to say that the GOI needs to be official and complete (so that any change in the currency IE issuing of new bills can be approved by parliment) the remaining sanctions need to be resolved, and they need to be free of being occupied by another country which technically they still are with the amount of troops we still have (although we will NEVER leave fully but will have the embassy and bases set up for years to come) This could happen later this year or even drag on further....but I just dont see anything happening within the next couple months....
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:45 AM

Any time you have money involved on a scale this big you can be real sure of one thing the govt.isn"t to far behind, the old cliche what"s mine is mine and what"s
yours is mine too.still applies!! So diligently do your homework, that"s all.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:49 AM

Wouldnt an overnight revaluation cause a run on US banks? I dont know much being new but is seems millions or billions of dollars being cashed in at once would not be a good thing?
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:51 AM

i have been to iraq and can tell you that as long as fat head is in charg over
it will be a while for it too happen .also yes us is involved in the money part of
it they will let it happen when its time
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:57 AM

Wouldnt an overnight revaluation cause a run on US banks? I dont know much being new but is seems millions or billions of dollars being cashed in at once would not be a good thing?



It would all be electronic anyway so it wouldnt be much of an issue....just transfering funds over the wire....it wouldnt be like everyone pulling out millions from each bank cause it wouldnt happen that way, hell most banks require days or even a week notice of taking out tens of thousands of dollars.....
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:59 AM

Of course the US is involved to an extent. Why would there be US Treasury agents over there working with the MOF & CBI? Not posting link and it's been posted several times already.

To say that this is a 100% Iraqi thing is naive at best
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:02 AM

Of course the US is involved to an extent. Why would there be US Treasury agents over there working with the MOF & CBI? Not posting link and it's been posted several times already.

To say that this is a 100% Iraqi thing is naive at best



Involved with helping them set up things yes, we have been since 2003 rebuilding the country....... holding back the RV no........in charge of the RV, no.....
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:08 AM

Nope.....the US is not in control of another countries exchange rate and what they do with their currency......it just happens to be a coincidence about the tax laws changing and the options you had when exchanging your dinar....I think people read too much sometimes into things trying to tie it into meaning its relating to the RV.....this is all on Iraqs time, no one is holding them back from doing what they need to do to grow and succeed economically. Apparently there are simply more things needing to be accomplished before they can start raising the value of the dinar.....and im pretty sure no one knows exactly what those things are but I would venture to say that the GOI needs to be official and complete (so that any change in the currency IE issuing of new bills can be approved by parliment) the remaining sanctions need to be resolved, and they need to be free of being occupied by another country which technically they still are with the amount of troops we still have (although we will NEVER leave fully but will have the embassy and bases set up for years to come) This could happen later this year or even drag on further....but I just dont see anything happening within the next couple months....



If you do not believe we (the USA) could be holding up the RV then you are blind! One who is naive lacks worldly knowledge of how things work. They are people that can be taken and controlled... The USA controls more in this world than your mind can apparently comprehend. (IMF, World Bank, NWO = USA)
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:16 AM

Involved with helping them set up things yes, we have been since 2003 rebuilding the country....... holding back the RV no........in charge of the RV, no.....


Keep, with all due respect i have to disagree with you. Athough The US and maybe other counties may not be able to give the set date and rate, i'm sure that they do have some kind of influence as to when and at what rate this should happen.

To use an example: Shabibi says i want to RV tomorrow at $0.10 us treasury says, well, why not wait till next week and get this, this, and that done then you can RV at $0.15 or $0.05. Although the US gov may not be the final say, I would have to assume that we do have pull and influence and i'm sure that is in the best intrest of our gov. Our best interest(as in yours and mine) well that is a whole other chat.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:18 AM

Ok, here is something to ponder.........The Bush Adminstration started this whole thing........first Daddy then Son..........correct? When Jr stated this war would not cost the Americans a dime (or was it a penny). He knew when this started we were going to make money off of this in the long run. Now, my question is do you really think the Bush's (Republicans) are gonna let Obama get credit for America recovering from the mess our economy is in right now? If that happens you know the odds of Obama getting elected again just doubled. If the dinar RV's and we have as I have read in here "trillions" of dinars bought by
our government how do you think this will effect our country? Obama will end up looking like a hero even though this has been in the works way before his time. I'm just curious to see if I am the only one who has
thought about this. Makes me wonder about things..........................


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:19 AM

If you do not believe we (the USA) could be holding up the RV then you are blind! One who is naive lacks worldly knowledge of how things work. They are people that can be taken and controlled... The USA controls more in this world than your mind can apparently comprehend. (IMF, World Bank, NWO = USA)



:lol: You have been reading too much conspiracy theories havent you??? We have a hand in alot of things but we are NOT holding up the RV..... :lol: NWO? Hahaha give me a break.......not one to believe in those kinds of rediculous stories.....Its simple really.....Iraq doesnt have all their ducks in a row......its really not hard to comprehend and see that....this isent as easy to accomplish as everyone would like to think....as much as you would love to believe that the US controls EVERYTHING that happens in the world, there really is more to it then that......I think you need to stop watching Jesse Ventura...... :lol: Its so easy to put the blame on our govt just like everything that goes wrong but thats really ignorant I must say.......Iraq is getting back on their feet and starting to be able to run things themselves but rebuilding from the ground up and getting back to where they used to be in the world market is not something easily accomplished overnight......

Edited by keepmwlknfny, 13 March 2011 - 09:20 AM.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:24 AM

Of course the US is involved to an extent. Why would there be US Treasury agents over there working with the MOF & CBI? Not posting link and it's been posted several times already.

To say that this is a 100% Iraqi thing is naive at best


I would bet that the amount of income that will come to the US and it's peeps the US Gov has a hand in it. Also JMO they could have a hand in to when it happens if the truth be known, due to that income also. I have only posted a few times I read mostly THANKS to all who inform with info to all of us and the BIG THANKS to our troops that make sure we can be free and able to read and hope for the RV go RV baby
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:28 AM

Keep, with all due respect i have to disagree with you. Athough The US and maybe other counties may not be able to give the set date and rate, i'm sure that they do have some kind of influence as to when and at what rate this should happen.

To use an example: Shabibi says i want to RV tomorrow at $0.10 us treasury says, well, why not wait till next week and get this, this, and that done then you can RV at $0.15 or $0.05. Although the US gov may not be the final say, I would have to assume that we do have pull and influence and i'm sure that is in the best intrest of our gov. Our best interest(as in yours and mine) well that is a whole other chat.



Well at this point we cant even really start to go down that path of thinking of that way when Iraq isent even complete with setting up their govt.....they arent fully up and running yet....there are things still needing to be settled within themselves before they can even think of letting the dinar appreciate so thinking that right now at this point in time that the US is keeping them from raising the value of the currency is a little far fetched.....im not doubting we have a hand in EVERYTHING Iraq is doing seeing as how we have been in charge of setting up and rebuilding the entire country, I just dont believe in all the conspiracy crap that we control the worlds currencies and that we will decide when and how a countries currency is valued or devalued.....if that were the case do you really think there would be such an issue that we are having with China and the unfair gap in the exchange rate???
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:33 AM

Big difference between China and Iraq......we didn't go in and save China from a dictator.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:35 AM

Well at this point we cant even really start to go down that path of thinking of that way when Iraq isent even complete with setting up their govt.....they arent fully up and running yet....there are things still needing to be settled within themselves before they can even think of letting the dinar appreciate so thinking that right now at this point in time that the US is keeping them from raising the value of the currency is a little far fetched.....im not doubting we have a hand in EVERYTHING Iraq is doing seeing as how we have been in charge of setting up and rebuilding the entire country, I just dont believe in all the conspiracy crap that we control the worlds currencies and that we will decide when and how a countries currency is valued or devalued.....if that were the case do you really think there would be such an issue that we are having with China and the unfair gap in the exchange rate???


Not really looking at it as conspiracy, just as a national interest. I agree 100% we will not dictate date or rate, but I do believe that we will have constructive input as to the outcome. Just my opinion. Everyone has one...lol....
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:36 AM

Ok, here is something to ponder.........The Bush Adminstration started this whole thing........first Daddy then Son..........correct? When Jr stated this war would not cost the Americans a dime (or was it a penny). He knew when this started we were going to make money off of this in the long run. Now, my question is do you really think the Bush's (Republicans) are gonna let Obama get credit for America recovering from the mess our economy is in right now? If that happens you know the odds of Obama getting elected again just doubled. If the dinar RV's and we have as I have read in here "trillions" of dinars bought by
our government how do you think this will effect our country? Obama will end up looking like a hero even though this has been in the works way before his time. I'm just curious to see if I am the only one who has
thought about this. Makes me wonder about things..........................


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As much as a RV will help, it's not going to be that big of a deal as one may think. Let's say there's 1 milion Americans holding IQD, with an average of 2 million IQD per holder, and it should RV at 3:1 for argument's sake. Thats 2 trillion dinars out there times 3:1 which sets the level at 6 trillion dollars now in the hands of Americans. The US Gov will get 35% of that which is 2.1 trillion dollars in tax revenue.

Will it help...of course, but with a 14 trillion dollar deficit, that tax revenue would pay off around 15% of the national debt. Now if you consider Scooter's research, his numbers are closer to 80 trillion dollars deficit.

it has been speculated that the US treasury holds close to 5 trillion Dinars. At 3:1 that's 15 trillion dollars plus the 2.1 trillion USD of tax revenue...then yea the US Gov can pay the debit in full and have a surplus; not withstanding the notion the debt is actually 80 trillion.

there are a vast many assumptions with this postulate and I'm not floating any rumors here. Just spitballin' some ideas around.

If any of this holds water, then it would be true when GW said the war would pay for itself. Not only that, it would be in fact G.W. Bush who was truly responsible for balancing the budget after all.

Obummer will of course try to claim this fame and the only way Bush can steal his thunder is if Bush himself is in Iraq standing with Shabibi himself when the announcement is made and Bush reminds us of when he said 'The war won't cost us a dime.' Hey, didn't I recently read that Bush is in Iraq now. Hmm...? yea I know, don't say it LOL
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:43 AM

Big difference between China and Iraq......we didn't go in and save China from a dictator.



It does matter.....these people that believe in these conspiracies believe that the US technically in some way controls all the central banks across the world which would include china........so either you believe in the conspiracy across the board or you dont.....there isent a halfway point....if you say thats how it is then how can you pick and choose saying they control the worlds banks but oh no they dont control china though.... :lol: conspiracy theories are just that.......THEORIES......
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:55 AM

It does matter.....these people that believe in these conspiracies believe that the US technically in some way controls all the central banks across the world which would include china........so either you believe in the conspiracy across the board or you dont.....there isent a halfway point....if you say thats how it is then how can you pick and choose saying they control the worlds banks but oh no they dont control china though.... :lol: conspiracy theories are just that.......THEORIES......


No no no...the US does not control the world through the Central Banks...the Illuminati does. It is their plan to control the world via monetary policy through Central Banks. Their ultimate goal is a one world currency, one world government, enslaving people by creating a police state. THAT is the conspiracy theory, not the US Gov controlling the world. :lol:
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