SF MEDIC CHAT 1/31 @ 10:56 am est Part 1

[shannybelle27]

SFMedic says to (10:56:22):

I WOULD THINK THE TARGET WOULD BE BEFORE THE 7TH

IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE START OF CAMPAIGNING

SO IF MALIKI WANTS TO USE IT TO GET POPULARITY AND STILL NOT BE ACCUSED OF IT BEING A POLITICAL PLOY.

IT WILL HAVE TO BE BEFORE THE 7TH

THE HEADS UP FROM TBI IS BY THE 7TH

BUT IT WAS NOT A CONFIRMATION OF AN RV

ONLY INFORMATION THEY HAD AND PASSED ON TO JP MORGAN CHASE

WHICH AS WE KNOW SINCE SEPTEMBER NOTHING HAS PANNED OUT AND ALWAYS SOMETHING HAS GOTTEN IN THE WAY

CHINA, ELECTION LAW, POSTPONED ELECTION, BUDGET

NAME IT IT HAS HAPPENED

THE DYNAMICS AS I SAID CHANGE SO FAST

I CAN'T COUNT ON INFORMATION FOR AN HR ANYMORE

NOW THIS CHAPTER VII COMES UP AND SLAPS US IN THE FACE

IS IT IMPORTANT OR NOT

I DON'T THINK THAT CHAPTER VII NEEDS BE REMOVED TO RV

AT LEAST IT HAS NEVER BEEN MADE AN ISSUE WHEN TALKING ABOUT A MONETARY POLICY CHANGE OR THAT SINCE IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY SALEH IN OCTOBER THAT THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE TO RV

IT HAD TO BE OUT OF CHAPTER VII

IT HAS NEVER BEEN WILL IT RV

ONLY WHEN

I KNOW IT SEEMS EASY AND LOGICAL FOR A WESTERNER TO JUST SAY RV

BUT FOR A FLEDLING DEMOCRACY IT HAS TO BE OVERWHELMING

AND IT IS FLEDGLING

PARLIAMENT AND THE BLOCS ALONG WITH THE MINISTRIES AND LEADRSHIP OF IRAQ WERE NOT UP TO THE TASK TO BRING IRAQ OUT OF THE ECONOMIC ISSUES THEY HAD

THEY HAVE WASTED ANOTHER FULL YEAR

EVERYTHING THAT IS BEING PASSED OR APPROVED OR IS BEING ADDRESSED BEFORE THE CAMPAIGNING STARTS

WAS TOLD TO BE ADDRESSED LAST FEBRUARY BY THE IMF AND WB

YET ALL THEY DID WAS PROCRASTINATE

STILL NO WATER AND NO ELECTRICITY

STILL BEGGING FOR DEBT FORGIVENESS

YET AT THE SAME TIME POSTING INTERVIEWS ON HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SUE COUNTRIES THAT BOMBED THEM IN THE EARLY 80'S TO STOP THE URANIUM ENRICHMENT PLANTS FROM DEVELOPING

SO YOU ASK THAT YOU BE FORGIVEN FOR INVADING AND DESTROYING COUNTRIES

AND THEN TURN AROUND AND WANT SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR WHAT YOU CONSIDER AGGRESSIVE ATTACKS UNMERITED

I GUESS YOU HAVE TO BE AN ARAB TO UNDERSTAND THIS UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO

MY BIGGEST PEACE FROM THIS RV

WILL BE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE LUNACY THEY CONSIDER AS SANE

THEY MAKE US LOOK LIKE THE MOST LOGICAL AND UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH

OK ALL DONE, TY GONNA CRASH FOR A BIT

apolloo says to (11:12:32):

saw some info posted that a bank screen was saying "frozen" on the iqd and now has changed to "received" this last Thursday. Do you know or have anyone that can say what that means exactly in the banking world?

SFMedic says to (11:13:12):

OK HOLD ON

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS POSTED ON THIS SITE APOLLO THAT IT WAS SAYING FROZEN

NOR HAS THERE BEEN A POST HERE THAT EVER SAID RECEIVED

I AM SURE YOU GOT THAT FROM KTF

NOT HERE THOUGH

apolloo says to (11:14:15):

actually came from someone we both know, not ktf

SFMedic says to (11:14:30):

BUT NOT POSTED

AS YOU SAID RIGHT

CUZ I HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT IN ON THE SCREENS

apolloo says to (11:15:04):

guess not

SFMedic says to (11:15:16):

SO WAS IT OR NOT POSTED

I AM JUST CLARIFYING

apolloo says to (11:15:34):

i guess not, but there is alot of info swimming and I thought it was

SFMedic says to (11:15:51):

NOW I ONLY USE OR HAVE ONE SOURCE THAT COMES FROM THE BANKS

AND THIS SOURCE IS EXACT

I CAN TELL YOU ALL THIS

THE ONLY THING AT THIS MOMENT ON THE SCREENS

IS PENDING

AND THAT IS SCREEN #2

NOTHING HAS BEEN RECEIVED

NOT ONE THING

IF IT HAD

THEN I SHOULD NOT BE RIGHT AND IT SHOULD RV THEN TONIGHT IN IRAQ

NOW I KNOW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

HAVE HUNDREDS OF CALLS A WEEK

BUT AS I SAID

IF LANACHY AND THE SMALL GROUP I WORK WITH BY MYSELF

DO NOT HAVE IT

IT IS NOT TRUE

AT LEAST TO ME

apolloo says to (11:18:45):

so if the term "received" pops up that indicates.....

immediacy?

speaking hypothetically then

kajunag says to (11:19:07):

medic when this rv's i would like to one day meet you shake your hand and say THANK YOU for all you did for us on this journey.

SFMedic says to (11:19:10):

EACH BANK HAS DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY

IT IS NOT AN ISSUE KAJUNAG

NO THANKS NEEDED

SEE I DON'T CHASE EVERYTHING THAT FLIES INTO MY POSSESSION

I GET EVERYDAY, THAT THIS BANK HAS THIS OR THAT THIS BANK WAS NOTIFIED

FIRST OFF I HAVE ACCESS TO THE CORPORATE LEVELS

AND IF CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS DO NOT HAVE THIS SUPPOSED SCREEN CHANGES

HOW CAN THE BRANCHES?

ANSWER ME THAT PLEASE?

apolloo says to (11:21:40):

i'm not in banking, can't say

SFMedic says to (11:21:54):

NO BUT YOU DO HAVE COMMON SENSE DON'T YOU?

apolloo says to (11:21:59):

sounds sensible though

SFMedic says to (11:22:20):

NOW I AM A REALIST

I DEAL WITH WHAT IS PRESENTED TO ME BY THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING

usmc67 says to (11:22:55):

that was terryk bs

SFMedic says to (11:23:09):

OK

THANKS USMC

ON FRIDAY WE GOT THE SAME INFO

I GAVE IT TO LAN

HE AND HIS BEST FRIEND WHO IS A CORPORATE VP

CALLED EVERYONE CORPORATE

AND THEY HAD PHONE CONS ALL DAY

NOT ONE BANK HAD A CHANGE YET OR WAS NOTIFIED

THEN THE INFO AS I GAVE ON THURSDAY

AND I WAS TOLD WE WERE NOT ALLOWED THIS TIME TO KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM

THOUGH EASY TO FIGURE OUT

THAT NO RV BEFORE THE 31ST

38cabo says to (11:25:38):

where did it come from ??

SFMedic says to (11:25:45):

DID WHAT COME FROM

I PROMISED THE PERSON WHO GAVE IT I WOULD NOT SAY

IT WAS THE SAME PERSON WHO GAVE ME THE RUMOR ON CHASE

WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE

BUT THIS ONE DID NOT PAN OUT

I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY CLAIM TO HAVE INSIDE SOURCES

AND I CLAIM THE SAME

THE FACTS BARE OUT THOUGH WHO REALLY DOES

THIS MONTH X'S SITE CLAIMED 3 X THAT THEY HAD CONFIRMATION OF INTERBANK RATES AND AN RV 3 SEPARATE TIMES.

I SAID THAT I HAD NO INFO THAT SHOWED AN INTERBANK RATE

AND WHO WAS RIGHT?

38cabo says to (11:28:55):

you

lawlesslucy says to (11:28:55):

u

GiGi says to (11:28:57):

you

wolverine4dinars says to (11:29:18):

Medic, can I ask if you have heard anything else from Ramish? If too sensitive right now I would understand.

SFMedic says to (11:29:21):

I GOT STUCK ON A WILD GOOSE CHASE BY THESE REPORTS OF SECRET ELECTIONS IN IRAQ

NOTHING WOLVERINE AT ALL

NOW IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THERE WAS NO ELECTION

SO HOW DO THESE SITES THEN EXPLAIN THERE IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR IN REPORTING THERE WAS?

DinarAvatar says to (11:30:16):

Medic, if the Dinar RVs there will be a lot of rich military so many will retire. Won't that be a prob for the gov -that gov has probably thought about? If so what do you think they will do?

SFMedic says to (11:31:14):

NOTHING THEY CAN DO

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE

THEY WILL JUST ACTIVATE RESERVISTS FOR TEMPORARY

THEN LOOSEN THE RECRUITING STIPS

ALLOW AN INFLUX OF RECRUITS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE NORMALLY ALLOWED

Papi_dlg says to (11:33:45):

current military still have to fufill their contracts!

SFMedic says to (11:34:31):

OF COURSE ALL MILITARY HAVE TO WAIT TO ETS

Dinarjunkie says to (11:35:15):

ets?

SFMedic says to (11:35:25):

EXPIRATION TERM OF SERVICE

niaihr says to (11:36:43):

Well today is big, Jan. 31st and the start of the approved budget......

SFMedic says to (11:37:03):

I EXPECT THIS WEEK TO BE BIG

LAST CHANCE TO PULL OFF BIG THINGS WITHOUT IT BEING CONSIDERED POLITICAL

niaihr says to (11:37:41):

boiling down to inescapable timeframes and standout activities that are all transparent

SFMedic says to (11:39:15):

NIAIHR, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT ANALOGY

I THINK THEY WANTED A FINAL TRY AT CHAPTER VII

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG FEATHER IN MALIKI'S HAT

TO HAVE THAT AS A PLUG

TO ME TOO LITTLE TOO SHORT

UP THE RIVER

THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO

BUT MOST DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TO HAVE THE RV

Got-UR-back dino says to (11:41:24):

Medic, do you think they need DFI funds or frozen assets for dinar exchg post rv?

SFMedic says to (11:41:46):

NO

THEY WILL HAVE THE BACKING OF THE IMF AND WB

IF THEY AGREE ON THE RATE WITH IRAQ

THEN THEY WILL NOT BE ON THEIR OWN

SO HAVE THE OTHER SITES DROPPED THEIR CLAIM TO A SECRET ELECTION?

OR ARE THEY STILL HOLDING ONTO IT

OK THEN

[shannybelle27]

CONTINUED CHAT...PART 2

busery90 says to (11:44:35):

they are saying thei used the smart cards

busman says to (11:44:50):

med, imo the unsc will not let that happen

SFMedic says to (11:44:50):

OH REALLY

AND JUST HOW MANY SMART CARDS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED

THEY HAVE NOT DISTRIBUTED 3O MILLION

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE 10 MILLION

SO HOW DID THE OTHER 20 MILLION VOTE?

bww00 says to (11:46:01):

doubt they have the it infrastructure for the smart cards

niaihr says to (11:46:02):

and distribution of smart cards is alot different than elections with counting the results

SFMedic says to (11:46:26):

SO HOW DID THEY USE THE SMART CARDS TO VOTE

SWIPE IT AT THE BANK OR GROCERY STORE

COME ON NOW

THIS IS STAR TREK STUFF

NEXT IT WILL BE BEAM ME UP SCOTTY

lucas4848 says to (11:48:28):

dont they still vote with thumb prints ?

Breitling says to (11:48:35):

YES

SFMedic says to (11:48:44):

UMM YES THEY DO LUCAS

johnny says to (11:49:01):

There is a smart card and a ration card... could you explain the difference

SFMedic says to (11:49:19):

RATION CARD IS FOR THOSE IN NEED

Breitling says to (11:49:33):

I ALWAY WAS UNDERSTOOD THEY HAD TO RV BEFORE THAY GET OUT OF CHAPTER 7

SFMedic says to (11:49:34):

TO GET ITEMS THAT COME IN AND PAID FOR BY THE DFI

I WOULD THINK THAT IS TRUE B

Breitling says to (11:50:01):

THAST WHAT THE UNCS TOLD THEM

UNSC

THEY NEDED TO SEE IN A BUDGET A PAYBACK PLAN

SFMedic says to (11:50:37):

SO THEN ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON WITH THE ELECTION NOW

IS ACTUALLY WHAT?

AND IF WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL MARCH 7TH FOR RESULTS

AND ALL THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ GO AND STAND IN LINE ON MARCH 7TH

THEY ARE DOING IT FOR WHAT REASON

HMMM

GiGi says to (11:51:47):

to vote

SFMedic says to (11:52:04):

BUT THEY ALREADY DID GIGI, DIDN'T YOU HERE?

LOL

GiGi says to (11:52:11):

yeah right

they couldn

couldn't pull off anything in secret

Breitling says to (11:52:22):

YEAH 14TH CENTRY SMART PEOPLE

SFMedic says to (11:52:37):

SO THESE TWO SITES HAVE INFORMATION OF A SECRET ELECTION

Breitling says to (11:52:50):

WELL MED

IT IS A DOUBLE SECRET ELECTION

THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED DONT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT

SFMedic says to (11:53:06):

BUT CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, AP, BBC NEWS ALL CAN'T GET

Uptheriver says to (11:53:29):

I just dont see how 30 million people could vote and it not be big news..

SFMedic says to (11:53:43):

YOU CAN'T

AND SO THEY GOT 150 THOUSAND TROOPS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES TO SWEAR TO SECRECY

I AM TELLING YOU THAT THE VOTE IS A LIE

IT HAS NOT HAPPENED

rhandegan says to (11:54:58):

so with all this going on, we still have the Feb 7th. feb 15th and March 7th as possible windows, Correct?

johnny says to (11:55:11):

It would seem to me once the funds are added to the ration card and smart card.... that would be a great time to RV

Breitling says to (11:55:12):

AND THE DOUBLE CONFIRMATIONS THE BANKS HAVE THE RATE

SFMedic says to (11:55:12):

I AM ASKING THAT THOSE SITES STAND UP AND START SUPPLYING FACTS TO THEIR MEMBERS

busery90 says to (11:55:25):

if you want the best info this is the place to be

SFMedic says to (11:55:30):

RHANDEGAN

AS I SAID THIS WEEK THAT IF THEY WANT TO USE THE RV FOR POLITICAL GAIN

AND NOT BE ABLE TO BE ACCUSED OF IT

THE THIS WEEK MAKES SENSE

Breitling says to (11:56:37):

I AGREE MED

MAKE MOST SENSE FOR MALIKI

SFMedic says to (11:57:43):

YES B

niaihr says to (11:59:24):

their time for procrastination is over, now that the IMF loan is in their budget....they have accountibility to their stips (IMF)

Breitling says to (11:59:40):

NIAIHR

EXACTLY

[Rickybobby]

sfmedic says to (10:56:22):

I would think the target would be before the 7th

it would have to come before the start of campaigning

so if maliki wants to use it to get popularity and still not be accused of it being a political ploy.

It will have to be before the 7th

the heads up from tbi is by the 7th

but it was not a confirmation of an rv

only information they had and passed on to jp morgan chase

which as we know since september nothing has panned out and always something has gotten in the way

china, election law, postponed election, budget

name it it has happened

the dynamics as i said change so fast

i can't count on information for an hr anymore

now this chapter vii comes up and slaps us in the face

is it important or not

i don't think that chapter vii needs be removed to rv

at least it has never been made an issue when talking about a monetary policy change or that since it was acknowledged by saleh in october that the decision has been made to rv

it had to be out of chapter vii

it has never been will it rv

only when

i know it seems easy and logical for a westerner to just say rv

but for a fledling democracy it has to be overwhelming

and it is fledgling

parliament and the blocs along with the ministries and leadrship of iraq were not up to the task to bring iraq out of the economic issues they had

they have wasted another full year

everything that is being passed or approved or is being addressed before the campaigning starts

was told to be addressed last february by the imf and wb

yet all they did was procrastinate

still no water and no electricity

still begging for debt forgiveness

yet at the same time posting interviews on how they are going to sue countries that bombed them in the early 80's to stop the uranium enrichment plants from developing

so you ask that you be forgiven for invading and destroying countries

and then turn around and want something in return for what you consider aggressive attacks unmerited

i guess you have to be an arab to understand this unethical behavior

do as i say not as i do

my biggest peace from this rv

will be that i don't have to be part of the lunacy they consider as sane

they make us look like the most logical and understanding people on the face of the earth

ok all done, ty gonna crash for a bit

apolloo says to (11:12:32):

Saw some info posted that a bank screen was saying "frozen" on the iqd and now has changed to "received" this last thursday. Do you know or have anyone that can say what that means exactly in the banking world?

Sfmedic says to (11:13:12):

Ok hold on

i don't know where it was posted on this site apollo that it was saying frozen

nor has there been a post here that ever said received

i am sure you got that from ktf

not here though

apolloo says to (11:14:15):

Actually came from someone we both know, not ktf

sfmedic says to (11:14:30):

But not posted

as you said right

cuz i have direct access to everything that in on the screens

apolloo says to (11:15:04):

Guess not

sfmedic says to (11:15:16):

So was it or not posted

i am just clarifying

apolloo says to (11:15:34):

I guess not, but there is alot of info swimming and i thought it was

sfmedic says to (11:15:51):

Now i only use or have one source that comes from the banks

and this source is exact

i can tell you all this

the only thing at this moment on the screens

is pending

and that is screen #2

nothing has been received

not one thing

if it had

then i should not be right and it should rv then tonight in iraq

now i know thousands of people

have hundreds of calls a week

but as i said

if lanachy and the small group i work with by myself

do not have it

it is not true

at least to me

apolloo says to (11:18:45):

So if the term "received" pops up that indicates.....

Immediacy?

Speaking hypothetically then

kajunag says to (11:19:07):

Medic when this rv's i would like to one day meet you shake your hand and say thank you for all you did for us on this journey.

Sfmedic says to (11:19:10):

Each bank has different terminology

it is not an issue kajunag

no thanks needed

see i don't chase everything that flies into my possession

i get everyday, that this bank has this or that this bank was notified

first off i have access to the corporate levels

and if corporate headquarters do not have this supposed screen changes

how can the branches?

Answer me that please?

Apolloo says to (11:21:40):

I'm not in banking, can't say

sfmedic says to (11:21:54):

No but you do have common sense don't you?

Apolloo says to (11:21:59):

Sounds sensible though

sfmedic says to (11:22:20):

Now i am a realist

i deal with what is presented to me by those who actually know what is happening

usmc67 says to (11:22:55):

That was terryk bs

sfmedic says to (11:23:09):

Ok

thanks usmc

on friday we got the same info

i gave it to lan

he and his best friend who is a corporate vp

called everyone corporate

and they had phone cons all day

not one bank had a change yet or was notified

then the info as i gave on thursday

and i was told we were not allowed this time to know where it came from

though easy to figure out

that no rv before the 31st

38cabo says to (11:25:38):

Where did it come from ??

Sfmedic says to (11:25:45):

Did what come from

i promised the person who gave it i would not say

it was the same person who gave me the rumor on chase

which turned out to be true

but this one did not pan out

i understand that many claim to have inside sources

and i claim the same

the facts bare out though who really does

this month x's site claimed 3 x that they had confirmation of interbank rates and an rv 3 separate times.

I said that i had no info that showed an interbank rate

and who was right?

38cabo says to (11:28:55):

You

lawlesslucy says to (11:28:55):

U

gigi says to (11:28:57):

You

wolverine4dinars says to (11:29:18):

Medic, can i ask if you have heard anything else from ramish? If too sensitive right now i would understand.

Sfmedic says to (11:29:21):

I got stuck on a wild goose chase by these reports of secret elections in iraq

nothing wolverine at all

now it is obvious that there was no election

so how do these sites then explain there irresponsible behavior in reporting there was?

Dinaravatar says to (11:30:16):

Medic, if the dinar rvs there will be a lot of rich military so many will retire. Won't that be a prob for the gov -that gov has probably thought about? If so what do you think they will do?

Sfmedic says to (11:31:14):

Nothing they can do

it is our right to be able to retire

they will just activate reservists for temporary

then loosen the recruiting stips

allow an influx of recruits they would not have normally allowed

papi_dlg says to (11:33:45):

Current military still have to fufill their contracts!

Sfmedic says to (11:34:31):

Of course all military have to wait to ets

dinarjunkie says to (11:35:15):

Ets?

Sfmedic says to (11:35:25):

Expiration term of service

niaihr says to (11:36:43):

Well today is big, jan. 31st and the start of the approved budget......

Sfmedic says to (11:37:03):

I expect this week to be big

last chance to pull off big things without it being considered political

niaihr says to (11:37:41):

Boiling down to inescapable timeframes and standout activities that are all transparent

sfmedic says to (11:39:15):

Niaihr, that was an excellent analogy

i think they wanted a final try at chapter vii

this would have been a big feather in maliki's hat

to have that as a plug

to me too little too short

up the river

there is always something to do

but most doesn't have to be done to have the rv

got-ur-back dino says to (11:41:24):

Medic, do you think they need dfi funds or frozen assets for dinar exchg post rv?

Sfmedic says to (11:41:46):

No

they will have the backing of the imf and wb

if they agree on the rate with iraq

then they will not be on their own

so have the other sites dropped their claim to a secret election?

Or are they still holding onto it

ok then

nice freudian slip richard

[gorby]

I tried to Pm you Shannybelle, but your box is full..

[DaveH]

I tried to Pm you Shannybelle, but your box is full..

oh no you didn't just say that gorby

medic is gonna have a big problem after the rv...even less or no people are gonna care what he says

he will use all his money on a shrink so at least one person listens to his babble

most of us figured this stuff out a while ago...it totally makes sense that they would wait until just before the election to rv, but not to close. All politicians think the same way. i told my wife back in december it would be sometime in feb. i still might be wrong.

thanks for the post shanny. i still like reading what he has to say. thanks

[krull]

Thanks Sonny for the post it helps to understand what is going on