Popular Post rudy1164 Posted September 18, 2010 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) Hello Everyone There were some few questions and disagreements, which I love. It creates for an open forum of conversation. I first want to apologize for my grammatical errors, but as someone posted this is not english finals, but nonetheless I should be more aware of my spelling. I have been on this sight and a member for close to a year, I have always been patient and understanding of other peoples posting, I have never felt bashing gets you anywhere. I am going to try to paint a realistic complete picture, this may take other postings in series. LETS GET STARTED The political environment in the middle east is strenuous. I touched on this subject a little yesterday. We keep hearing about Iran being involved in the voting and election process. There is a reason behind this, IRAN IS SCARED. 6 months ago we saw rioting and demonstrations thru out Iran, the opposition had won elections, and were looking for major changes. they truly wanted change thru out all aspects of society, a freer Iran. their sharia law suffocates their society, there is no freedom of speech or freedom of existence Those are the things that are occurring in Iraq, or being implemented as we speak. This new free capital democracy in Iraq would create internal destabilization in Iran, internally it eventually will collapse, creating civil unrest and civil war. Thats what they don't want, the clerics understand this, so that is why they fund terrorism and elections in Iraq. Have you noticed that the nuclear reactors is not such a big issue anymore, well the U.S understands we will not have to set foot in that country, it will collapse on its own. So our efforts are directed at promoting a freer Iraq. The rest of the middle east is bi-partisan, most of the countries are moderate, at least in the gulf nations they understand that opposing change will only affect them negatively, so they follow are lead. When we see all this haggling for position within the govt., I truly believe it is all for show. Yes the people of Iraq are tired of there govt., and its insane corruption, but we knew it existed all the time, we even fed the corruption, and turned a blind eye to it. we know who took what and who has what they took.its ok, its part of the game in occupied war countries, we are going thru this in Afghanistan, and it's ok, as long as we accomplish our goals. Do you truly believe that we go into a country to create a free loving democratic society, if you do, you must live in disneyland. The only reason we invade and occupy is to replenish our resources at a comfortable market price. When money is invested for these purposes, it has an owner, and that owner needs a substantial return on his investment in such risk environment. He expects to get paid back in a timely manner. The bi-product of occupying a nation is democracy, it's the after effect of our efforts, while we occupy it is a dictatorship. Once we set the foundation it becomes democratic, we have to be able to work with the country and it has to be able to function like a corporation, people are hired and fired, removed and replaced. So 7 years go by, we have been running the country, we have stabilized their economy, we have set in motion the playbook on how to run the central bank. Now i made some comments about NO TAXES. and many have responded as to what did i mean, so let me try and explain there is always going to be taxes, we will never get rid of that, it will always be part of our economy. what i was trying to say is there will be no new taxes, and whatever tax cuts bush put in place will continue. when the dinar revals, it will create a surplus in our treasury, i truly believe we will pay off a lot of our 12 trillion dollar debt. bush made a comment in 2006 " not one american dollar will be spent on this war" many thought he was crazy, how could you make a statement like that with out any proof or backing. they grilled him on the media services, Well what a surprise, we have 3.7 trillion dinars in our foreign currency reserve basket. plus we have a 2005 agreement to purchase future oil contracts at $32.00 per barrel, what is the current price of oil? $75.00 a barrel This was all done back in 2005, you see bush jr. learned from bush Sr., that wars can be very profitable when you hedge the currency, i don't remember us sending Kuwait a bill for our services, don't you think liberating a country cost money and manpower, does the U.S look like Unicef, lets just give away our services because were just a bunch of bleeding hearts, i don't think so. Money is its own dictator, it manipulates for its own benefit, money will do anything for its own profitable outcome, it has an inherit desire to create more money at any means, it will cross boundaries, break borders, create illusions and perceptions and bend truth to its own convenience, it will create, destroy,build up and tear down, and most of all it makes the world go round and around so having said this, money has to be profitable, and we did not go to Iraq to liberate, we went in for the profit, now its sad to say that many have lost there lives there, iraqis included, many innocent lives have been affected. but i want to talk about reality, war is business, and business need to survive, our world is going thru the largest consumer consumption that has ever been seen, and americans do not like to lose there lifestyles, moderation is not in our vocabulary, we all know we are in a global struggle for natural resources, and china is consuming 2/3 of it, there predicted to have in the next 10 years a middle class population of over 750 million people, that is 750 million vehicles in a country that only has 100 million today. I am not giving up my 2.5 cars and I am sure not going to ride the bus three times out of the week, or walk to the grocery store, are you? SO LETS TALK ABOUT THE ISX AND HCL AND THE DINAR here is the law for you to review and understand it is already in place, it has no current bearing on the dinar or its revalue, the IMF has already taken this into consideration, so quite believing this needs to pass before the dinar can revalue A Hydrocarbon Law which advocates a radical restructuring ofIraq’s oil industry was approved by the Iraqi cabinet in February. If passed by parliament, the law willmark a milestone in Iraqi history a shift of Iraq’s massive reserves from public to private hands. It could see private companies developand profit from Iraq’s oil for 15-30 year periods with virtually no possibilityfor the Iraqi State to renegotiate contractual terms and conditions. The first draft of the oil law wasproduced to a timeline set by the International Monetary Fund. The IMF ordered, as a condition of debtrelief, the issuance of an oil law by December 2006. This law had to open up Iraq oil (for the first time in over30 years) to long-term investment by foreign oil companies. Finally produced in July 2006, thefirst to review it and comment on it were 9 multinational oil companies, theBritish government and US government. It would be eight months before the vast majority of the Iraqiparliament would even see it. InJanuary of this year, the US President decreed the passing of an oil lawallowing for foreign investment as his top benchmark. AP reported in early April that sources close to PrimeMinister Nouri Al Maliki had revealed he feared being ousted by the US administrationif he did not secure the passing of an oil law by the end of June. The Oil Law - Legislation for OilPrivatization? The oil law and Production Sharing Agreements (re-named‘Exploration and Risk Contracts and Development and Production Sharing Contractsin the Oil Law) do not amount to privatization of Iraqi oil in a stricttechnical sense. With PSAs and theprovisions of the oil law, the oil underground technically remains 'theproperty of the Iraqi people'. Itis not set to pass into private ownership; existing assets will not pass intoprivate ownership and corporate structures will also not be privatelyowned. However, the rights tocontrol what happens to Iraq's oil — how it is developed, its' rate ofextraction, the profits which the state is able to claim — the control of oilflow and development — this is all up for exclusive private control. Sami Husseini of the Institute forPublic Accuracy uses Standard Oil’s John D. Rockefeller’s maxim to illustratethis. ‘Own nothing, control everything’. Despite being sold as a de-facto peaceplan for Iraq; The mechanism for uniting all Iraqi factions by offering a fairdistribution of oil wealth, only one out of 43 articles actually deals withthis. The details of revenuedistribution, including the proportion shared between central government andthe regions, and the means by which allocations and percentages will be decidedis actually the subject of another separate law which has yet to bepublished. The Law could risksexacerbating sectarian tensions. Its provision for a creation of a Federal Oil and Gas Council - mostlikely composed by the Prime Minister, in consultation with the main parties,could see the current sectarianised decision-making reflected in economic oilpolicy potentially pitting regionagainst region in a race to secure competitive contracts. This is why we are picking the govt., do you think we would allow them to go against our investment, or the brilliance of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER. I don't think so, as I have said we and the IMF are in total control, I hope this explains HCL, and how it already exist, the dinar has nothing to do with this or its potential revaluation. The dinar will revalue, we need our investment return as soon as possible, People have a very different concept on how markets work, I have heard that THE ISX( IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE) needs to have a tradable currency. Where this idea came from is my question, is the six not functioning on a daily basis, is their market not tradable, it is, that it is not included in the world exchanges as a formidable Quota, affecting market data is a total different story, if i wanted to buy iraqi stock, i would have to use a clearing house, but who on the world market wants to by penny stock in 28 companies. most investment houses and private equity stay out of the penny market, there is to much adherent risk, return is questionable in short term and long term gain. no one is going to invest 200 million dollars in penny stock, you might as well buy the whole company. here is an explanation of a market A stock market or equity market is a public market (a loose network of economic transactions, not a physical facility or discrete entity) for the trading of company stock (shares) and derivatives at an agreed price; these are securities listed on a stock exchanges well as those only traded privately. The size of the world stock market was estimated at about $36.6 trillion US at the beginning of October 2008.[1] The total world derivatives market has been estimated at about $791 trillion face or nominal value,[2] 11 times the size of the entire world economy.[3]The value of the derivatives market, because it is stated in terms of notional values, cannot be directly compared to a stock or a fixed income security, which traditionally refers to an actual value. Moreover, the vast majority of derivatives 'cancel' each other out (i.e., a derivative 'bet' on an event occurring is offset by a comparable derivative 'bet' on the event not occurring). Many such relatively illiquid securities are valued as marked to model, rather than an actual market price. a market is created internally by its own investors, that being its own citizens, how could we expect iraqis to invest in their own market if they have no money to do that, it is ridiculous to believe that the market will make itself thru outside investment, when its own people have no confidence in their own internal market, outside investors will stay out till they see the country of Iraq invest in its own, to do that they need a revalue of their currency that is why the revalue is coming very soon, In my next posting I will explain why I believe we are very close to the dinar revaluing, I believe within the next 30 days. RUDOLPH <b> </b> Edited September 18, 2010 by k98nights Removed phone number and last name 29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyToGo Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Good food for thought, thanks Rudy:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadraph0nic Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) That was quick. Thanks for sharing again. Again with the name and number? Be safe with that info Rudy... Take care Edited September 18, 2010 by quadraph0nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgbrown Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks again, Rudy, will read again, consider. Certainly food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 People have a very different concept on how markets work, I have heard that THE ISX( IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE) needs to have a tradable currency. Where this idea came from is my question, is the six not functioning on a daily basis, is their market not tradable, it is, that it is not included in the world exchanges as a formidable Quota, affecting market data is a total different story, This is a question I have been mulling around in my mind for a few days now........ I present it as a question....... What determines a tradable currencey...... does the currency need to revalue to start the 30 day clock for the isx....... or have some of the recent developments already started that clock...... as in being taken of of OFAC list????? Thanks Rudolph for your thoughts........ Look forward to the next chapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMaker Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 DINARABULOUS! WOW love it! Can't wait for the next post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANE Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 In your next post how about posting a projected rate for the RV? Am getting so sick of people saying .10. I think it has to be $4 for people to be paid back etc. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njacobs Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm going to need to read that a few times to wrap my brain around it completely. I will say that you do seem to know a lot. Thank you for your point of view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwhitewolf69 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 [ OK you have my attention waiting for post #3 Keep it coming Nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadraph0nic Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Rudy, the 3.7 trillion; is that information we can verify online? If so, could you provide a link? I agree with you on Iran. They have done so much in meddling with this place. At one point I thought they were just going take over, I think they even outlawed farsi in some towns A prosperous Iraq will destabilize Iran. Thank you for acknowledging and discussing the HCL. For me it had always been a cloudy subject so I appreciate your take. and I think I understand your take on the market however, doesn't that go along with the 30 day RV before ISX goes international idea? Why 30 days? Good stuff Rudy Thank you again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolina.broker Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I commend him for putting his telephone number on that post... god only knows the phone calls he's getting. Just ask Adam if that was a good idea Can't thank you enough for your thoughts and observations. It's logical to me and has a common sense approach. I think we all know it was about the oil... but the by-product of a democracy and the civil unrest in Iran will make this interesting to watch. He's right... no need to attack Iran unless they become a threat to US interests. They Iranian people will make that decision... in fact they tried to take out their beloved leader just a few weeks ago. While I will never be an advocate of sacrificing American lives for oil... the Bush plan is nothing short of brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedrich Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Rudy, I did not comment on your first post and reserved judgement until your second post. I will have to say that this is a well thought out analysis on where we stand, and thus, where we are going. Your understanding of derivatives, and breakdown of their conceptual statistical probabilities is correct in my opinion because of the need in betting against occurrences as well. Thank you for your information and due diligence in your research. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 thank you very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcamera82 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 another great post....thx rudy...this is what we need to here...you and scooter have to get together on a chat....keep it up and thx again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCupp Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Well what he says makes sense to me. I posted a story awhile back about one of my clients coming into my office and telling me this almost exact story. I believe it was one of the first post I did. The client supposedly was a lawyer for the US Govt under the Bush Administration. He told me the exact story. I have family that works for the Treasury saying one thing but then I hear this story again by a totally different person..... Its got me scratching my head and rethinking things here. I for one tend to believe him. I really hope that he is right and my family member is wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripthelight Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thank you! Looking forward to chapter 3. I'm gaining a higher perspective of how this all works together. After reading this forum for over a month, I was hoping for something with more meat and substance. I must say I was leary after your first post, but now with this second post, you have my attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgraham Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks Rudy....Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susieqcook1 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks for the insight. It just blows me away as there are so many different perspectives to this investment. Who to believe and what make the most sense. Well here's hoping Rudy that you're right and that we should see this happen soon. Thanks and can't wait for the next post from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I LOVE THIS GUY!!!! WHERE THE HECK HAVE YOU BEEN? GREAT POST AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING. WE NEED TO HEAR MORE FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF WORLD ECONOMICS, FOREX, AND POLITICAL POSITIONING SO I APPLAUD YOUR POST AND THANK YOU. AS FOR THE GRAMMATICAL ERRORS, I'M NOT ONE TO TALK SO JOIN THE CLUB OF OCCASIONAL MISSPELLORS. NOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR VIEW: 1.) IRAN -- The early RAND Reports and WAR Strategies indicated we economically strangle Iran, mainly by surrounding them with economic successes in Iraq and Afghanistan. The result, an internal implosion from the resistance and America gains deeper strides into Asia, particularly from the resource rich Middle East. So Would you agree or disagree that with the recent Lithium findings in Afghanistan (over $1 Trillion), a financially sound and diversified Iraq, and somehow surprising early WTO Assencions indicate this strategy is playing out before our eyes? 2.) DERIVITIVES -- The $791 Trillion in Derivitives ------ Obama and Geitner want more of that action (I should say the Corporation) --- Will Geitner get his request to base currencies more off of the derivitives market and how will the IMF react? support or Reject. Would love to hear your comment. Again, thank you for sharing and please keep them coming !!!! Best regards, Scooter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jac Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 This sounds like Dinar Investor 101 and 102 on the fast rack very much like what a University Professor would point out. Are you here to gradually bring DV Investors up to date regarding what every millionaire/billionaire needs to know? If so well, well, well I am overjoyed that community of big money are so concerned about Dinar Investors (new money community) that they are sending out such as yourself to give us a heads up and quick lesson is how do whatever we may do. Helpful as the information is why now? IMHO the RV is at unrolling and now can no longer be stopped or delayed. "The system of banking have... ever reprobated. I contemplate it as a blot left in all our Constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction, which is already hit by the gamblers in corruption, and is sweeping away in its progress the fortunes and morals of our citizens." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:18 "The banks... have the regulation of the safety-valves of our fortunes, and... condense and explode them at their will." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1819. ME 15:224 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePeoplesChamp Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Excellent Post!!! Goooo RV!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Correction//Clarification I know Iraq is not an official member of WTO ----- However, the ASEM meeting is early October and the US Trade pamphlets on Iraq show ascension by end of 2010. For Afghanistan, they are already a member. Thank you again, Scooter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarette Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I appreciate your insight on market forces, HCL and the future of Iran - I agree that Iran has a large enough segment of westernized citizens that the extremists will be overturned from within. And yes, one of the benefits of freeing Iraq from a brutal dictator is that the US is going to enjoy the financial gain and reduced deficit from the dinar revaluation, but I don't happen to agree with your assertion that cheap oil is the reason that US invaded Iraq. Maybe I'm naive, but as I recall, the US was part of a multi-national force that invaded as a result of several factors, including the threat by Saddam that he had and was prepared to use WMD against our allies in the region. I don't believe that President Bush sent our military troops to war - knowing the sacrifices they would make - for the promise of cheap oil. JMHO. Thanks for the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who_Dat_Gurl Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks again for taking time to answer questions and posting what you know. This is so much easier than trying to read in a live chat forum. Also thanks for posting who you are and giving your personal info. I feel so much more secure in your answers than what I was reading before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarpriness Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me today, I really enjoyed your honesty and look forward to your many posts. God Bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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