bigwave Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 On Friday, Green Beret Tim Kennedy live-streamed himself being waterboarded in his backyard by friends in order to demonstrate his belief that the procedure is not "torture," as some claim. Kennedy, who is also a UFC fighter, made the video to protest those who oppose Gina Haspel, Trump’s nominee for director of the CIA. Haspel has been criticized for her work at a CIA black site in Thailand where "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding were used in the aftermath of 9/11. In 2005, then-head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service (NCS), Jose Rodriguez, allegedly asked Haspel, who was his chief of staff, to write a cable directing personnel to destroy 92 tapes which are said to have shown the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Rodriguez claims that he ordered the destruction of the tapes because the faces of CIA agents could allegedly be seen. However, Haspel was cleared of wrongdoing after a "disciplinary review" in 2011. In the review, then-Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell writes: "Ms. Haspel claims that she believed — incorrectly as it turned out — that Mr. Rodriguez was going to obtain approval from then (CIA) Director (Porter) Goss before releasing the cable." In April, Morell released a statement that reads in part: Ms. Haspel did not destroy the tapes, she did not oversee the destruction of the tapes and she did not order the destruction of the tapes ... She drafted a cable, under instruction from her boss, Mr. Rodriguez, that he sent — under his name and authority — ordering that the tapes be destroyed. During an interview with ProPublica, however, Rodriguez said that "he told Haspel directly that he was going to take matters into his own hands, and that she responded by saying she was worried about the consequences that he might face for such a brash act." ProPublica then quotes Rodriguez directly: "She didn’t say, 'Don’t do it.' She may have thought I was going to talk to more people about it before hitting 'send,' but I had made up my mind that I was going to follow through." According to the Associated Press, "little else is publicly known about her work with the program [black site in Thailand]." At the beginning of Kennedy’s video (2:46), he states, "I just want everybody to understand what waterboarding is. Waterboarding is an opportunity for us to get information, useful information, out of somebody we’re questioning. There is no permanent damage, and it’s just the fear of water that scares people." Later (23:37), Kennedy asks the live-stream audience: "Does this look like torture to you guys?", although he did admit that it’s highly uncomfortable. At about 24 minutes into the video, they up the ante, and go "CIA" level, pouring water over Kennedy’s towel-covered face for longer periods of time. The entire video lasts about 42 minutes, and can be watched below: https://www.dailywire.com/news/30576/watch-green-beret-tim-kennedy-gets-waterboarded-frank-camp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 The video did not come with but hit the camp tab and it will come up. Anyone with better computer skills could probable post it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Many don't know it but in some units Water Boarding is part of the Training they undergo just so they know what the heck it is in case of Capture......Honestly, I would rather be Water boarded 10 times then subjected to Beheading Just Once....... Karsten 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 For those that have forgot or are too young to have known.....Here are a few more reason I could care less if Terrorists are Water Boarded. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/september-11-photos-that-are-still-hard-to-view/news-story/74c57d8883a240c95e6779c0de0c24be Karsten 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Waterboarding may not cause brain damage.....but the UFC very well may. 😒 GO RV, then BV 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 21 hours ago, Karsten said: For those that have forgot or are too young to have known.....Here are a few more reason I could care less if Terrorists are Water Boarded. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/september-11-photos-that-are-still-hard-to-view/news-story/74c57d8883a240c95e6779c0de0c24be Karsten Hello Karsten...Agreed on the fact one couldn't care less if PROVEN Terrorists get waterboarded...... In actuality....Some then turn out NOT to be Terrorists and they had to go through water-boarding and other form of "persuasion" anyway.....Maybe incorrect Intel or whatever...... There are many cases about that...Some ( or many) had to be released from Guantanamo because of that...They simply were not Terrorists 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, umbertino said: Hello Karsten...Agreed on the fact one couldn't care less if PROVEN Terrorists get waterboarded...... In actuality....Some then turn out NOT to be Terrorists and they had to go through water-boarding and other form of "persuasion" anyway.....Maybe incorrect Intel or whatever...... There are many cases about that...Some ( or many) had to be released from Guantanamo because of that...They simply were not Terrorists 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, umbertino said: Hello Karsten...Agreed on the fact one couldn't care less if PROVEN Terrorists get waterboarded...... In actuality....Some then turn out NOT to be Terrorists and they had to go through water-boarding and other form of "persuasion" anyway.....Maybe incorrect Intel or whatever...... There are many cases about that...Some ( or many) had to be released from Guantanamo because of that...They simply were not Terrorists If they weren't Terrorists, weren't caught is the act on a battlefield, weren't captured with plans , maps and other devices, weren't caught setting off IED's to kill American Soldiers and the list goes on.....They didn't get an All Expense Paid tip to GITMO, they didn't get a warm bed, 3-4 HOT meals a day, $750,000 Soccer Field to crap and pee on.......The Thug Life of a Terrorist at the Expense of teh American Tax Payer that they would kill in a heart beat if they had the chance. If you think about it Umbertino........Those that went to GITMO were most likely pretty pissed off that obama released them as his goal was to Close GItMO.......They had to go back to the Sand Box and fight for their next meal, anywhere to sleep..... Like the Video Above.....There are a lot of people today " That just cacn't handle the truth or the Facts for that matter.......These Animals grew up wanting to kill anyone and everyone not like them. Sometimes even if they were like them they still Killed them for fun, sport or just because there wasn't a Western or European girl around to rape. Umbertino, you are in Italy and the so called refugees are turning Your Country into a #$%^ Hole, Your Women like those all over Europe are scared to death, Your Government has no money yet they have the fund to support these Animals that are destroying Your Country and somehow you again find fault with America, Americans and the American way of handling issues. Karsten 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Congress was the one that pass that bill after 9/11...which are the same folks that drill Haspel prior to her CIA confirmation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 10:05 PM, bigwave said: The video did not come with but hit the camp tab and it will come up. Anyone with better computer skills could probable post it for me. Since the last DV update the video from you tube just don't to seem to load 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Muleslayer said: Great movie....the badass full bird ultimately dishonors the corps by ordering a "code red" and breaking the laws of the UCMJ, gets arrested, sent to the brig, more than likely stripped of rank, certainly dishonorably discharged, and probably spent his remaining days busting big rocks into little rocks....Yep, rule of law reigns supreme in that flick. GO RV, then BV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerplayer Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Great movie....the badass full bird ultimately dishonors the corps by ordering a "code red" and breaking the laws of the UCMJ, gets arrested, sent to the brig, more than likely stripped of rank, certainly dishonorably discharged, and probably spent his remaining days busting big rocks into little rocks....Yep, rule of law reigns supreme in that flick. GO RV, then BV Great analogy Shabs. Could not of said it better myself. pp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Don't know why the ruby Shabs, that darned phantom negger. +1 for ya. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerplayer Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Thxs Sage. Seems everyone gets * dinged* for whatever reason lately. pp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 No kidding, amazing that anonymity causes possibly normal, rational people to go nuts. 😎 Must be the availability of cloak n dagger. Thx PP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: the badass full bird ultimately dishonors the corps Yup. Must be human. i will take the bad azz full bird over Cruze or you ANYDAY on my 6, point, flank! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSM (R) Thack Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hooah! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSM (R) Thack Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Muleslayer said: Yup. Must be human. i will take the bad azz full bird over Cruze or you ANYDAY on my 6, point, flank! Hooah! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Muleslayer said: Yup. Must be human. i will take the bad azz full bird over Cruze or you ANYDAY on my 6, point, flank! You'll have to bust him out of the clink first, tough guy. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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