How do we handle the dreamers ?

[Synopsis]

6 minutes ago, Texstorm said:

F....... The sorry SOB that gave you a Ruby ! Just another guttless piece of shiette that doesn't have the wavos , forgive my spelling, to pronounce his name for a BS cause....I call them ..

....total p.......... Not permitted to say on here ! 

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With all due respect, please read the post again You quoted and consider what was actually being said. It wasn't in support of actively enforcing illegal immigration laws to keep illegal immigrants out.

Edited May 13, 2018 by Synopsis

[Synopsis]

Just now, dinarham said:

  I am a patriot with a soft heart .  Let's not be so  fired up because it clouds clear thinking  .  You can hold two different opinions  ,that's what a dilemma is

 

Avoiding the dilemma is actually to enforce expelling ALL illegal immigrants from The United States Of America. ANYTHING other than that has related issues that cost things a whole lot more than money like THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO INCLUDE THE RATIFIED BILL OF RIGHTS.

 

Maybe YOU could take YOUR business to Mexico, or the country of origin YOU hire illegal immigrants, and enjoy YOUR life THERE.

 

Buh Bye!!! 

 

I certainly DO NOT care about businesses in The United States Of America THAT employs illegal immigrants, especially knowingly, to the demise of ACTUAL The United States Of America Citizens.

[Texstorm]

2 minutes ago, dinarham said:

  I am a patriot with a soft heart .  Let's not be so  fired up because it clouds clear thinking  .  You can hold two different opinions  ,that's what a dilemma is

I hear you been there done that ! Well no more ! Get on the bus and go back or shut the hell up and give to this one and the only one and great country or get the hell out ! God bless Donald D-Rex Trump and America the great !

[dinarham]

  I worked at Great Lakes Naval Hospital during Vietnam ,burn and surgical wards . Do you know what that means ,do you know what i witnessed ? I am a PATRIOT ,even though you don't agree with my opinions .  My blood boils at anyone who would question the love I have for my country  

[CSM (R) Thack]

6 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Hopefully You, CSM (R) Thackrey, will not mind me saying, "SEMPER FI DO OR DIE", AND please accept my condolences for the ignoramuses who negged You on other fine posts of Yours.

 

              

Liberal Socialist Liberal Leftists - Too Dumb To Know That They Are Giving Away The Country To Illegal Immigrants AND True The United States Of America Patriots Stand For Their Country

 

                                 

 

              

I don’t mind at all! One team on fight!

 

It’s a sad day when “some” in power make the conscious choice to put the wants/needs/desires of those here illegally (I state again...ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS) “OVER” its citizens!!

[Synopsis]

Just now, dinarham said:

  I worked at Great Lakes Naval Hospital during Vietnam ,burn and surgical wards . Do you know what that means ,do you know what i witnessed ? I am a PATRIOT ,even though you don't agree with my opinions .  My blood boils at anyone who would question the love I have for my country  

 

Then SHOW YOUR LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY by upholding The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights AND THEN be a True Patriot Of The United States Of America.

 

To support illegal immigration IN ANY form compromises the well being of The United States Of America Citizens and IS NOT what a True Patriot would do.

 

Doesn't YOUR blood boil INSTEAD for all the crime and corruption these illegal immigrants bring to The United States Of America regardless of the so called "innocent" and "hard working" that live and work here for many years? AND YOU would support illegal immigration in ANY form for YOUR own benefit YOU experience from YOUR business with their associated costs to OTHER The United States Of America Citizen Tax Payers?

 

Have YOU REALLY thought this through?

[CSM (R) Thack]

30 years I faithfully served my country (in CONUS, and deployed in theater to 3rd world countries) fighting for the rights of OUR citizens!  🇺🇸 Nothing chaps my ass more than to see illegal immigrants handed benefits my own children aren’t afforded!!! That’s my WTF moment!

[dinarham]

  Yes i have ,Synopsis . Why do people think I am in favor of open borders when I mean to address individual  and specific situations ,   "the innocent and hard working that have lived here for many years " . Believe me , I am all for intense border control , and tight immigration policy .  

[Synopsis]

Just now, dinarham said:

  Yes i have ,Synopsis . Why do people think I am in favor of open borders when I mean to address individual  and specific situations ,   "the innocent and hard working that have lived here for many years " . Believe me , I am all for intense border control , and tight immigration policy .  

 

The reason YOU started this thread, DinarHam, was ONLY to appease YOUR conscience for what YOU did in knowingly hiring one or more illegal immigrants THEREBY supporting breaking the associated laws and/or encouraging others to do so while to attempt to garner support for YOUR behavior to appease YOUR conscience and undermine Rule Of Law based on The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights.

 

Do YOUR really see what YOU are doing with the cost to OTHER The United States Of America Citizens by breaking laws and encouraging others, to include illegal immigrants, to break the laws? Where is the True Patriot in THAT?

[dinarham]

Maybe I should just say good bye .  

[jg1]

8 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

Then SHOW YOUR LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY by upholding The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights AND THEN be a True Patriot Of The United States Of America.

 I would say he is leading by a poor example from our rouge corrupt government. More pay to play. Let the poor low class low pay workers in the our open boarders and Big business give to their campaign and other back door dealings. Our colleges and schools unions  brain wash our kids because our government is in collusion. The libs want the votes and the schools more illegal kids mean more money and job security. It goes on and on and on. The money train is slowing down due to Trump $o,,,,,,,o\ and the government workers on the take are pissed. 

[jg1]

10 minutes ago, dinarham said:

Maybe I should just say good bye .  

I'm sure we would probably agree on other subjects. One being a RV. Stick around. 

[Synopsis]

28 minutes ago, dinarham said:

Maybe I should just say good bye .  

 

Buh Bye 

 

I DO NOT encourage breaking laws or supporting law breakers. Things only go downhill for EVERYBODY from compromising Rule Of Law. We have more than ample evidence to date of that with illegal immigrants.

[dinarham]

Thank you jg1 .  Kindness flows like a river, down from the mountains into the valley setting all of us free

[umbertino]

10 hours ago, dinarham said:

  I am a patriot with a soft heart .  Let's not be so  fired up because it clouds clear thinking  .  You can hold two different opinions  ,that's what a dilemma is

 

 

You are appreciated here, Dinarham.....And thank you for your sensible posts

[dinarham]

Thank you Umbertino , much appreciated 

[umbertino]

14 hours ago, dinarham said:

   You only need to look at what's happening in Belgium to convince you that strict immigration policy must be in place  . Belgium is now being inundated with people from other countries that have no desire to assimilate into the culture of their host country . My more humanitarian view of allowing someone like my guy to attain US citizenship is not mutually exclusive to strict strict borders .

 

 

It's also true that once Belgium used to be a Colonial Power ( just like UK and France, only with less colonies than those 2...Germany too was a Colonial Power in Africa...Even Italy...with less colonies than anybody else....But still) and at one point these Countries had a toll to pay so to speak when it comes to immigration....

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_overseas_colonies

 

[umbertino]

12 hours ago, dinarham said:

Maybe I should just say good bye .  

 

Please do not do that.....

[dinarham]

I would like to add that I was talking about one individual .. Everyone employed at my business are US citizens ,paying taxes and  into social security . I should have made that more clear . 

[umbertino]

 

Hello again Dinarham

 

You expressed your points absolutely POLITELY and sensibly ...IF OTHERS DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH IT'S ONLY THEIR PROBLEM....THEY HAVE THE CHANCE ( IF SO THEY FEEL INCLINED) TO PUT YOU  ON IGNORE BUT FOR YOU TO LEAVE WILL ONLY SEND THEM THE (WRONG) MESSAGE THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT  (MEANING...JUST)  AND that  TO THEM FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A STRANGE CREATURE WHICH APPLIES ONLY TO THEMSELVES....

 

 

PLEASE STAY...THANKS

[umbertino]

12 minutes ago, dinarham said:

I would like to add that I was talking about one individual .. Everyone employed at my business are US citizens ,paying taxes and  into social security . I should have made that more clear . 

 

 

No Dinarham...You don't need to give any explanation...It's your FULL RIGHT to express your opinions ....You wrote sensible things and did nothing wrong......

 

 

The WRONG THING here is to offend you and to tell you to shut up....That's dead wrong....Freedom of Speech ...One of the ALL-American values  US PEOPLE GO ( AND RIGHTLY SO) PROUD OF....

 

COME ON NOW!!!!

Edited May 13, 2018 by umbertino

[Jim1cor13]

7 minutes ago, dinarham said:

I would like to add that I was talking about one individual .. Everyone employed at my business are US citizens ,paying taxes and  into social security . I should have made that more clear . 

 

 

Hi dinarham :)

 

You did nothing wrong. This thread you started was just another example of a few trolls dragging it

through the mud once they decided to turn on you, just as they do to a few others here.

 

Unfortunately, a few here want to censor anything outside of their ability to discuss, the main reason

a few even come here is to find anyone they can target and begin their display of pulling threads into

the gutter while accusing others of whatever it takes to justify their behavior.

 

Apparently they are very frustrated and they find it fun to hide behind their labels and beliefs as they violate 

those very things by how they treat anyone who they deem does not tow their line.

 

It is just a game to them. Now that you have been labeled and have a taste of how a few operate here,

it is a good thing, now you know how insecure some are, and those who need constant validation by their peers

who join them. They make it a "left-right" issue...but the reality is some just enjoy hunting down those

they judge as less than themselves to make them feel better about their narrow view of the world around them.

 

The aim is to create their own safe space on the forum, tearing apart anyone who posts something

that offends them. They will blame everyone else but themselves and their own tactics as to why so 

many have stopped posting. Many here are tired of their constant BS...and hypocritical actions.

 

Think of it as this being a forum where the majority of folks are vegetarians...and there are a few folks who

who enjoy a good steak and other meat. The majority will soon accuse the meat eater of being a murderer

and how they are ruining the earth by their hunger for meat.

 

They will claim meat causes cancer and is killing the earth, and those who eat it deserve to die. No feeling or

empathy towards their target, only desire to see them gone, out of their haven, and will relentlessly attempt to

put words into the mouths of their targets to justify their hatred.

 

It is nothing more than that example...division is what some here thrive upon. It has little to do with politics,

politics just provides a reason to attack.

 

 

 

 

[dinarham]

Jim1 and Umberto , I'm sorry for all the rubies you have acquired for your sincere efforts here . I  had no idea that such anger was associated with this  .  I was wanting a real debate on this subject . I never expected that I would be classified as something close to being a criminal . It confused me and hurt my feelings {I'm a gal } until I read your kind remarks . Much appreciation to both of you .

[umbertino]

7 minutes ago, dinarham said:

Jim1 and Umberto , I'm sorry for all the rubies you have acquired for your sincere efforts here . I  had no idea that such anger was associated with this  .  I was wanting a real debate on this subject . I never expected that I would be classified as something close to being a criminal . It confused me and hurt my feelings {I'm a gal } until I read your kind remarks . Much appreciation to both of you .

 

Hello Dinarham....Please don't worry about me ( I believe same holds valid for Jim) ...Not your fault ( obviously) anyway....Part of the crowd here had been waiting a long time for giving me a symbolic ( or more than one) slap or fist or whatever for reasons which do not have anything to do with you

 

 

By the way....You' re kind of new to this place ...Let me tell you that many Folks ( the majority for sure) here are good and won't assault you or anybody else even if we have diff. opinions...I'm just trying to tell you that I do not want  you to be negatively shocked by the things that were said to you today ( which are not good at all )

 

On the other hand....Others here ( sadly) will take the fact that you or me or other Members can have diff opinions from their own...as a personal offense and will then act consequently....with the intention to hurt ( personal attacks and all)

 

 

But again...Most People here ( that I know of, at least...after 8 years of being here) are good  or very good Individuals and will respect the diversity of opinions without assaulting you ( or me, or others)

 

Best,

[Synopsis]

The back bone and strength of The United States Of America with The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights was not and is not made up of people consisting of milk toast who willingly compromise Rule Of Law for themselves and others for incidental sentiments. The "hate" by these milk toasters attributed to individuals upholding said Rule Of Law is True Patriot Citizens standing resolute for their and their fellow Citizen's current and long term well being. It is so easy to correlated milk toasters' hatred toward True Patriotism and True Patriot Citizens since the milk toasters' have no back bone and actually are the ones who HATE True Patriotism. Sadly, even non The United States Of America Citizens jump in under the guise of free speech as milk toasters to promote the Fascist compromise of The Untied States Of America whose service personnel fought and died to free them from the Fascist Benito Mussolini.

 

Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists - Bleeding Heart Milk Toasters Who Hate True Patriotism AND Supporting Ignoring Rule Of Law To Have Illegal Immigrants Over Run The United States Of America