We Just Lost our 4th Amendment, and Trump Helped

[divemaster5734]

Hi Everyone,

 

Everyone here knows I was one of the first to support Trump, I even declared Trump would win in January of 2016, endured the ensuing derision, and subsequently openly gloated for days after the election.

I'm not pulling or regretting supporting Trump, I still do, but the "Cloud Bill" that was buried in with the over two thousand pages of the Omnibus has destroyed our right to privacy through making all data in the "cloud" available to not only US agencies, but every single other foreign government that is willing to pay for it.

To be sure, it's not just Trump.

Every politician claiming to be on the "freedom caucus" has just proven themselves to be a liar.

Rand Paul is fully exposed for the establishment tool and hypocrite I've always declared him to be.

Along with every single demoncrap rep, while the media was making noises about illegal aliens, over-the-hill prostitutes desperately looking for one last trick, and fanning the anti-Russia flames to justify more oppression that pretends to be "safety", We The People just got royally screwed.

 

"The Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data Act (CLOUD) “updates the rules for criminal investigators who want to see emails, documents and other communications stored on the internet,” CNET reported. “Now law enforcement won’t be blocked from accessing someone’s Outlook account, for example, just because Microsoft happens to store the user’s email on servers in Ireland.”

 

This law only relates to Americans, or people living on American soil, so in an ironic twist, the only ones who are Safe is anyone who is NOT an American.

Hows that for a kick in the teeth?

In this day of online bill payments, direct deposit payroll, email, text messages, cell phones, and social media, that's ALL we have left.

Does anyone even have a hard line phone anymore?

I haven't touched the ham radio in years.

Our entire existence is digital.

Our politicians just offered our entire digital life to the world.

And no one even has to let you know.

This bill also eliminates all liability from your cable, DSL, fiber optic, or wireless provider, as well as declares all providers MUST retain every piece of your digital communications,just in case some idiot working for ANY government, might decide they want to read all your personal emails, access your personal and "private" facebook page, or get all your banking records.

 

This is painful.

Our only chance of reversing this steamroller of amendment destruction is to stand as one.

With the division brought by the last 10 years alone, just obummer and Trump, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell America will ever stand united for anything.

I hope I'm wrong, but with not one senator or congressman mentioning it, the proof of their treason is slapping your face, the fact the media is silent demonstrates not only the anti-Trumper dividers, but the rest of them as well are all supporting the destruction of the American Experiment.

 

The declaration says it all;

 

"Congress finds the following:

  Timely  access  to  electronic  data  held  by

 communications-service   providers   is   an   essential

    component  of  government  efforts  to  protect  public

 safety   and   combat   serious   crime,   including   terrorism."

 

Been saying it all along, those who chose safety above liberty deserve neither.

The link to the bill is at the top of the page.

 

I am trying to comfort myself by believing it is not as desperate as I imagine and Trump had no choice but to cave in order to get the military spending, but then, Trump's military spending is scaring the hell out of me too.....DM

[js214]

"Those who chose safety over liberty deserve neither" sounds like the libs if you ask me as no Patriot is asking for safety or going to give up their Liberties...

[divemaster5734]

1 hour ago, js214 said:

"Those who chose safety over liberty deserve neither" sounds like the libs if you ask me as no Patriot is asking for safety or going to give up their Liberties...

 

I can only pray you are right, I'm getting a perception of acceptance from everywhere.

 

The water is close to boiling and yet we sit there.. ribbit..

[js214]

1 hour ago, divemaster5734 said:

 

I can only pray you are right, I'm getting a perception of acceptance from everywhere.

 

The water is close to boiling and yet we sit there.. ribbit..

Sounds almost like a perfect time for an RV

[patrickgold]

Thanks Dive, another sad day for the American people.  These power hungry take over representatives work for themselves, not the people. Our freedoms are being etched away right before us. The media has their tactics, and that is to distract.

[skeetdog]

Thanks DM...It just part of the degeneration of society...The general down grade of the populous...and 'dumbing-down' of future entitlement recipient...Their target sources are set for the average 'firewalls' and security software...Either stay ahead of the technology to scrambled information...or...post a 'ghost' intity now that you're inform that your cloud could be compromised...'Big-Brother' has a motive behind this and I'm going to go off the 'deepend'...and suggest it's about..."money"....The 'crypto currency scared the Shiite out of the financial giants....and TPTB want to keep their best 'eye-n-the sky' on this situation...

[Shabibilicious]

And yet he signed it.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[Synopsis]

Just now, Shabibilicious said:

And yet he signed it.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

And yet You drank and are drinking the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist Toxic Kool Aid with the fashionable "chocolate" ice floaters so You proudly fulfill the role of Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Brigadier General.

[Shabibilicious]

5 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

And yet You drank and are drinking the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist Toxic Kool Aid with the fashionable "chocolate" ice floaters so You proudly fulfill the role of Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Brigadier General.

 

Did you even read this thread, my little stalker.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[skeetdog]

24 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

And yet he signed it.  

 

GO RV, then BV

...Patience is a good choice for me on this one...What was signed...was formed by the bozo administration so it shouldn't be that hard to dismantal...President DJT has already proven he's several moves ahead of the predictable orchestrated typical leftwingnut propaganda pumping BS...This now is Prez DJT responsibility to continue what the all great and wonder...uhhh...what's his name...The black guy with big ears....anyway, that loser and his administration created and now approved...Woohoo let's see how businessmen go about turning what crooked politicians wrote...when they just knew Killary was going to win...into a bill that was signed by the crooked politician that could indict themselves...What flavor is that "KoolAid"....

[Synopsis]

31 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Did you even read this thread, my little stalker.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

   

 

Of course, Brigadier General of the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade the Stalker Of True Patriots Of The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights, we all know You are going to twist this to some form of YOUR Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist hateful destructive idiotology.

 

   

[Muleslayer]

10 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

   

 

Of course, Brigadier General of the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade the Stalker Of True Patriots Of The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights, we all know You are going to twist this to some form of YOUR Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist hateful destructive idiotology.

 

   

Come on! Tell us what you really think!

[Karsten]

It appears that since blocking shabs and a few others I seem to be free of the BS Anti American post but it appears they are getting worse.

 

FB is a better place to fight the trolls and even though the last two where rather challenging.....David Hogg supporters in Utah no less.......They got there butts handed to them and vanished, I don't think they will be back anytime soon.

 

Life is Awesome not dealing with self indulgent Liberals that have this feeble feeling they are the only ones that should be in charge of everyone else.

 

Karsten

[Theseus]

On 3/30/2018 at 11:04 PM, js214 said:

"Those who chose safety over liberty deserve neither" sounds like the libs if you ask me as no Patriot is asking for safety or going to give up their Liberties...

If no Patriot still does nothing while the libs gain ground their choice was made for them and in translation are neither Patriot or conservative.

Edited April 2, 2018 by Theseus

[bostonangler]

Wasn't this passed by a conservative government? You know the ones who want to keep government out of our lives... Once again left or right, both sides work against us citizens. Just more evidence that voters need to vote anything but these two corrupt parties. JMHO

 

B/A

[Theseus]

13 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

Wasn't this passed by a conservative government? You know the ones who want to keep government out of our lives... Once again left or right, both sides work against us citizens. Just more evidence that voters need to vote anything but these two corrupt parties. JMHO

 

B/A

No there are very few conservatives in the federal government. Republican does not necessarily equate to conservative. More than a few RINOs could be named here that led to this being passed. Republicans still think they are the minority not the majority and have forgotten how to govern. So was this passed by a conservative government. Hell, no!

[bostonangler]

19 minutes ago, Theseus said:

No there are very few conservatives in the federal government. Republican does not necessarily equate to conservative. More than a few RINOs could be named here that led to this being passed. Republicans still think they are the minority not the majority and have forgotten how to govern. So was this passed by a conservative government. Hell, no!

 

So are you voting for the incumbent?  Left or Right, I know I'm not... time for these crooks to go. JMHO

 

B/A

[Shabibilicious]

On 3/31/2018 at 9:43 PM, Karsten said:

It appears that since blocking shabs and a few others I seem to be free of the BS Anti American post but it appears they are getting worse.

 

FB is a better place to fight the trolls and even though the last two where rather challenging.....David Hogg supporters in Utah no less.......They got there butts handed to them and vanished, I don't think they will be back anytime soon.

 

Life is Awesome not dealing with self indulgent Liberals that have this feeble feeling they are the only ones that should be in charge of everyone else.

 

Karsten

 

Lot's of people block others and walk away when they don't possess the strength or mindset to continue the mission...No shame on them.  It's better than the ones who parrot the same thing, over and over.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[js214]

10 hours ago, Theseus said:

If no Patriot still does nothing while the libs gain ground their choice was made for them and in translation are neither Patriot or conservative.

And if you honestly believe no Patriots are doing anything watching what is unfolding- I have a bridge to sell you 

[Theseus]

On 4/2/2018 at 9:45 AM, bostonangler said:

 

So are you voting for the incumbent?  Left or Right, I know I'm not... time for these crooks to go. JMHO

 

B/A

BA you asked if the "conservative" government passed this. I responded to the fact just because there is an R behind someone's name doesn't necessarily mean they are conservative. What this has to do with how I vote or who I vote for is not the question du jour. 

[Theseus]

On 4/2/2018 at 7:42 PM, js214 said:

And if you honestly believe no Patriots are doing anything watching what is unfolding- I have a bridge to sell you 

The qualifier in my statement is the word "If". Mighty big word "if". The word "if" does not imply or equate to one's belief rather it is the potentiality of an outcome. You and BA are quick to read and respond. "If something then outcome". This is called a conditional statement not an absolute statement. 

[js214]

19 minutes ago, Theseus said:

The qualifier in my statement is the word "If". Mighty big word "if". The word "if" does not imply or equate to one's belief rather it is the potentiality of an outcome. You and BA are quick to read and respond. "If something then outcome". This is called a conditional statement not an absolute statement. 

Wasn't meant in a negative light.I have alot going on with my GF being sick .No harm meant

[skeetdog]

There's a reason the core valued, moral driven, common sense Americains were known as the 'silent-majority'....Leaning toward a conservative independent...I basically would rather listen, gather information, research the possible opinions...then response with information to individuals that have a social acceptance to consider constructive criticism...There are however individuals...that we have the right to omit responding...for no other reason...than we personally don't want to deal with hurting someone's feelings.....or if something might upset someone's else's comfort-zone...I'm open to listen to anyone...until assumptions, accusations and personal phobia play into context...

[nstoolman1]

2 hours ago, skeetdog said:

'silent-majority

 

 

You mean those hard working Americans who don't have rhe time for the PC  because we are trying to provide for our families.

We are tired of baby sitting people who are elected to do the will of the people. I told a city council once that if I wanted to invest that much time making sure they were doing the job we elected them to do, I would run for office and probably win. 

My wife promptly said she would break both my arms. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by nstoolman1

[Muleslayer]

The rest of the story.

 

 

 

 

happy wife!

lol!