Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

[ChuckFinley]

2 hours ago, newbieDA said:

Morning DV!

 

Curious about this, everything is going smooth so far. Now let's see what the Kurds do after talking to Baghdad.

 

 

 

This will be interesting.

[alreis]

11 minutes ago, ChuckFinley said:

This will be interesting.

This will make or break this party.

All the other stuff is important, this is probably the largest piece of the puzzle.

It relates directly to wether or not the people feel they can trust a high level politician or not to do what is right for the whole, not just the few.

or the one.  

[10 YEARS LATER]

These Pin Heads have got to come to grips with the reality of the situation. If they don't, they'll jump feet first straight down the Rabbit Hole. The result will be Fiscal and Economic suicide for Iraq.

 

Too much $$$$$ has been thrown at Iraq. The Global Big Knob Outfits would more than likely step in if they saw the Iraqis were just too damn stupid to get out of their own way. Although this appears to have happened on other issues. However, this issue is, THE ISSUE ! 

[yota691]

Kurdish deputy: Abadi is reluctant to receive the legitimate representatives of the region

Editorial Date: 2018/1/7 22:43 • 55 times read

(Baghdad: Al-Furat News) The head of the Kurdistan Islamic Union bloc MP Muthanna Amin said that Prime Minister Haider Abadi "a player to receive representatives of the legitimate Kurdistan region."

"There is a consensus of interests between the Kurds and Sunni and Shiite provinces in the issue of not passing the budget, which is unfair to all and especially to the Kurds," Amin said in the program {boldly} broadcast by Al-Furat satellite channel. 
He added that "the government closed its ears and is not serious to pass the budget," noting that "Abadi is reluctant to receive the legitimate representatives of the region and the Kurdistan government." 
He said Amin, "Whoever came to Baghdad does not represent the region and they are a new group and are not involved in the territorial government." 
The delegation of the Kurdistan Change Movement and the Kurdistan Islamic Group and the Alliance for Democracy and Justice, visited last Thursday in Baghdad and held a series of meetings with the three presidencies and the President of the National Alliance, Mr. Ammar al-Hakim and other officials.
The Kurdish delegation issued a joint statement in which he separated the discussions and discussions he held with Abadi, stressing "the importance of preserving the gains of Kurdistan and the political entity of the region and the need to consolidate the principles of real partnership in the center of political decision and find radical solutions to all problems through serious discussions and dialogues between the region and the center according to the Constitution "He said. 
He also visited the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Pavel Talabani separately from the delegation of the capital Baghdad and met Abadi and Mr. Ammar al-Hakim and focused his talks on the restoration of the relationship and resolving the problems between the center and the region and maintain the unity of the country and secure salaries of employees of Kurdistan.

[yota691]

Al-Shammari: The region has to implement 13 conditions, otherwise the slaves will resort to force to deal with them

07-01-2018 03:37 PM

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Baghdad News -

 

 

Prime Minister Ihsan al-Shammari said on Sunday that Abbadi asked for several conditions in exchange for negotiations between the center and the region, otherwise he would have to resort to several options, including negotiating with Bafal Talabani and imposing the rule of law by force. 

In media leaks close to Shammari, he stressed that many of the Barzani party and his associates demanded secret meetings to negotiate in the event of Barzani failed to obtain an understanding with the Center and 

according to Shammari, the decision Abadi was strict .. (not negotiate, but after the approval of the following). ... 

1. Return of the 2003 agreement 

2. Delivery of ports and borders 

3. Delivery of airports 

4. Receipt of imports from the government departments 

5. Excommunication of Massoud Barzani 

6. Calling North Iraq instead of Kurdistan 

7. The Peshmerga's link with the central government

8. Extradition of the wanted to the Federal Court 

9 .. Undertaking not to harbor any terrorist or wanted for the Central Government 

10. Cancel Article 140 to become from the past. 

11 .. not to travel any official Kurdish government without the consent of the federal government 

12 .. Not to receive any international official only after passing through Baghdad and the approval of the federal government 

13 .. Cancel the referendum 

According to Shammari, Abadi has addressed the authorities in Kurdistan, demanding them to implement the demands urgently to avoid the consequences Which will be inflicted on the Kurdish people in the event of the insistence of these authorities and abide by their opinion.

[Floridian]

Good luck with THAT list!

 Makes me think we may be a ways off from the RV yet.   

[tigergorzow]

Yota Thanks,  DV,  Sounds good to me.  Git er done boys & girls.

 

 

GO LISTS

 

GO RV / RI

[yota691]

Kurdish Delegation: We opened the way to start dialogue with the federal government

08/1/2018 12:00 am   Baghdad / Follow-up morning  The Kurdish delegation, which visited Baghdad recently and met with the three presidencies and prominent political leaders, that he did not sign any formal agreement with the federal government, but that his initiative constitutes a road map to start a dialogue to resolve the crisis between Baghdad and the government of the region, comes at the time announced the head of the regional government, That his government seeks dialogue and resolving outstanding problems with Baghdad according to the Constitution, while absolved of the existence of an operating room in Erbil conspired against the Islamic Republic of Iran in recent events in Tehran and other cities. A member of the Kurdish delegation Hassan Jihad said in a press statement followed by «morning»: «The Kurdish delegation, which met with Prime Minister Haider Abadi, opened the way to start dialogues between Baghdad and Erbil in a preliminary to resolve all matters that are disputed», adding that «a protocol did not sign the delegation to any A formal agreement represents the central government or the government of the Territory », pointing out that« the delegation asked the Prime Minister to pay the salaries of employees », Jihad stressed that« Abbadi promised well to pay salaries and confirmed the direct and accelerate the payment of dues of farmers ». The sin of the referendum For his part, MP for the coalition of the rule of law Jassim Mohammed Jaafar, the refusal of the Kurdistan Regional Government to negotiate the Kurdish delegation and speak on its behalf, Jafar said in a press statement: "The Kurdish delegation discussed with Abadi many things concerning the region, including the salary crisis and the status of Kirkuk and others, «The territorial government claimed that the delegation is not my party and all the dialogues that will be the policy and not the opinion of the territorial government», adding that «the Prime Minister welcomed them and agreed to pay the salaries of Sulaymaniyah employees and discussed with them all the points of Kirkuk», and noted that «the delegation realized that Massoud Barzani and put the Kurds in the cases of their rights were lost, which called Members of the delegation to try to dampen the atmosphere and search for a way out of the crisis. » Sulaymaniyah Conference In turn, the official of the Political Bureau of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, Mullah Bakhtiar, that the Kurdish delegation that visited Baghdad did not inform the provincial officials on the results of his talks, Mullah Bakhtiar said during a press conference held in Sulaymaniyah on Sunday accompanied by the head of the government of the region, Nechirvan Barzani and his "morning" The delegation that went to Baghdad did not consult with the government and parliament of the Kurdistan region did not report the date of the visit », adding that« the delegation did not see the results of his talks with Baghdad », stressing the need to« have any understanding with the Center through an official delegation from the government of Erbil » , As he put it. For his part, the head of the government of the region, Nechirvan Barzani, in a joint press conference with Mullah Bakhtiar: «We confirmed our readiness for dialogue with Baghdad to the point that it became known to everyone», indicating «the determination of the regional government to address all outstanding problems with the Center since 2003», "The resignation of the ministers of the two blocs of change and the Islamic Group has not yet been decided, saying that" the resignations were not for justified reason, "he said. The events of Iran and denied Barzani during the conference, the existence of a secret operations room to manage the demonstrations and riots in Iran, and said: "There is no truth to the existence of a secret operations room to manage the demonstrations and riots in some Iranian cities," adding that "the region has always been a factor of stability, Pointing out that «our relationship is good with the Islamic Republic, which is an important state». The Secretary-General of the Expediency Council in Iran, Mohsen Rezai revealed on Saturday evening, the details of the meeting «secret» held in the city of Arbil in the Kurdistan region of Iraq before the demonstrations and recent events in Iran during the past days, noting that the meeting was attended by the Director of the Office of the son of the President Saddam Hussein's twin brother, Hani Telfah, representatives of former regional president Massoud Barzani, head of Iran's special operations department at the CIA and Saudi intelligence officers, and representatives of the opposition Iranian People's Mujahideen Organization. The new generation saw the birth of a new movement called "The New Generation" on Saturday evening, during a founding conference of about 300 people, of which 80% were young and women, unlike the rest of the parties and movements.  Participants in the "New Generation" conference chose 12 members of the Supreme Council of Movement, 5 of them feminists, or 41% of the members of the leadership, in an unprecedented precedent in the structure of political parties whose leadership structures barely contain feminist elements. The Conference also competed five names To take over the leadership of the movement won, including Shawwar Abdul Wahid majority of the votes supervised by the cadres of the Electoral Commission, and distributed members of the leadership of the movement in various geographical regions of the region, despite the conference in Sulaymaniyah, where the MP in the Parliament of Kurdistan Rabun Maarouf the first sound at the conference, Tammi to the city of Erbil as the second owner in the center of the votes belonged to the city of Dohuk far north of the Kurdistan region of Iraq in a sign of «overcome regional and regional problem», according to the speech of the  political movement. The birth of the movement «New Generation», which has the leave of the Electoral Commission in Baghdad coincides with the political movement frantic ongoing in the Kurdistan region in preparation for the local elections in Kurdistan and the public at the level of Iraq and in the post-referendum division on 25 September, which produced a different political reality because of the arrival of speech The ruling parties in the region to a dead end, especially in dealing with the center and with the Kurds, according to opponents of the current Kurdish authority.

[Bama Girl]

I hope to heavens that this is just a starting point (s) for negotiation because I can’t see Kurdistan meekly accepting everything on that list, especially 6, 10, 11, and 12.  Until Barzani took over, Kurdistan was the only stable part of Iraq but Barzani has caused all of this with that stupid referendum and other.deeds. Jmho.  Doesn’t the UNSC or IMF have something to say about the demand to cancel Article 140? 

[10 YEARS LATER]

It's official - it's a CRISIS !  . . . Like Sand Through the Hour Glass, So oUr the Days of Our Lives - Iraq, the Best Soap Opera EVER !

[newbieDA]

[yota691]

Barzani: We will provide Baghdad with all facilities on the issue of paying employees salaries

 

 Since 2018-01-08 at 14:03 (Baghdad time)

 

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The head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Nizrvan Barzani, on Monday, to provide all facilities to the Government of Baghdad on the issue of payment of salaries of employees, pointing out that the federal government owed the farmers of the region 700 billion dinars.

Barzani said during a press conference held today, attended by the correspondent / Mawazin News /, "We discussed at the government meeting the issue of oil exports and what was stated in the Deloitte report," stressing that "we will provide all facilities if the Iraqi government is serious about the issue of paying employees' salaries."

He added, "We have taken important steps related to transparency in the issue of oil exports to the region," stressing his rejection of "the decision of the Iraqi parliament to stop the work of a Kurdish company in Kirkuk oil field, and not the right to issue a decision to stop the work of companies."

Barzani said that "the formation of a commission of inquiry to create Tuzkhurmatu is an encouraging decision, but we hope that the work of the Commission what is expected."

He pointed out that "Baghdad is a city for the peasants of the region by 700 billion dinars," stressing "the readiness of the region to cooperate with Baghdad if it wants to know the size of its exports."

[yota691]

On 1/6/2018 at 11:29 PM, TexasMike1958 said:

I have said all along that the only reason B cut the K's share to 12% was in retaliation for voting to secede.

Thanks But the IMF made those changes, has nothing to do with any retaliation...

[yota691]

Nechirvan Barzani: are ready to hand over all the oil data of the region to Baghdad

Editorial Date: 2018/1/8 14:29 • 37 times read

(Arbil: Al-Furat News) The head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Nechirvan Barzani, on Monday, the readiness of his government to hand over all oil data of the region to the central government in Baghdad.

"If Baghdad wants to know the figures of the export of Kurdistan oil, we are ready for that," he told a news conference. "We will provide all facilities if Baghdad has the seriousness to pay the salaries of employees." 
"We have taken important steps on the issue of transparency in the production and sale of oil in the Kurdistan region." 
And Barzani, "discussed at the meeting of the government; the report of {Deloitte} on the exports and imports of oil in the Kurdistan region," directed his thanks to the company mentioned on its report on the exports and imports of oil region. "

[danielchu]

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he will refuse to allow the Iraqi parliament change the KRG’s share of the 2018 budget. He insisted Erbil’s demand for 17 percent belongs in the past, but assured his commitment to paying the salaries of KRG employees despite “big problems” with the payroll lists.

 

“We have now set the share of the [Region] to one based on the population ratio. There is justice in it,” Abadi said on Tuesday.

 

The 17 percent share was based on an outdated political agreement that his government will not remain committed to, he asserted.

 

“The parliament wants to change it. I do not accept it,” Abadi said of reported attempts by the Iraqi parliament to bring the KRG’s back to 17 percent, up from the 12.6 percent Kurdish officials have claimed has been allocated in the draft 2018 budget law.

 

The International Monetary Fund has said the 12.6 percent share will not cover the KRG’s expenses.

 

Abadi: I won’t allow the KRG to receive 17% budget share

By Rudaw 2/1/2018

Edited January 8, 2018 by danielchu

[yota691]

 

A member of the Council of Kirkuk calls for the activation of Article 140 to solve the problems between Arabs and Kurds in the area of Sarkran

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Kurdish National Council member Babeker Siddiq and the official of the office of Article 140 of the Constitution on Monday applied Article 140 to solve the problems of agricultural land between Arabs and Kurds in the area of Sarkran.
According to the document obtained by "Al-Ghad Press", "The area of Sarkran and its 40 villages are among the disputed areas," noting that "Article 140 of the Constitution is able to solve the problems of agricultural land between displaced Kurds and Arabs coming to the region As a result of demographic change policies ". 
He added that "there are a number of decisions issued against this affected area, which all the population of Kurdish nationalism, which the number of villages (38) and a very small percentage of Arabs living with the Kurds and two villages."

 

[yota691]

Couple Days old...

Abadi asked oil minister to prepare for talks with Kurdistan

By Rudaw 5/1/2018

The oil and gas issue has been one of the major factors behind strained and deteriorating relations between Erbil and Baghdad over the course of the past ten years, despite numerous talks. Photo: Rudaw/Farzin Hassan

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Iraqi’s prime minister requested the oil minister to prepare for talks with the Kurdistan Region about oil, the minister revealed, adding he expected a visit to take place within the next few days.

“No time frame has been set yet,” said Oil Minister Jabbar al-Luaibi in an interview with Iraq’s al-Mirbad radio. “It is predicted that the talks will be held in the next few days.”

When talks do take place, Luaibi said he anticipates they will be fruitful and positive.

The oil and gas issue has been one of the major factors behind strained and deteriorating relations between Erbil and Baghdad over the course of the past ten years, despite numerous talks.

Baghdad is opposed to the Kurdistan Region independently exporting its oil and gas and the two governments have had disagreements over disputed Kirkuk’s oil.

Oilfields in Kirkuk, which had been operated by the Kurdistan Region since 2014 after Kurdish forces secured the province in the face of ISIS advances, fell to the Iraqi government on October 16 after Peshmerga pulled out their troops and Iraqi forces and Shiite militias moved in. 

The two governments have disputed Kurdistan’s oil exports, with Baghdad claiming the KRG is exporting enough oil to meet its expenses. 

The KRG hired Deloitte to conduct an audit of its oil and gas sector. 

On Friday evening, KRG’s Ministry of Natural Resources tweeted figures, subject to audit, of its oil exports for the last four months of 2017, showing a dramatic drop in exports after losing Kirkuk.

KRG oil export volumes (subject to audit): 
2017 average: 445,301 bpd 
Sep: 514,051 bpd
Oct: 384,659 bpd
Nov: 252,301 bpd
Dec: 263,542 bpd

— KRG-MNR (@MNRKurdistan) January 5, 2018

The KRG has on many occasions expressed willingness to begin talks with Baghdad to resolve their outstanding issues and international allies, including Germany and France, threw their support behind Kurdish calls for talks within the framework of the Iraqi constitution.

The past few days have seen the first real progress as technical delegations from Erbil and Baghdad have met in both capitals, largely discussing the matter of the central government paying the KRG’s civil servant salaries. Baghdad requested the employee lists of the health and education ministries to audit them in order to start sending their salaries.

Delegations from three opposition parties, Gorran, the Islamic Group (Komal), and the newly founded Coalition for Democracy and Justice (CDJ), visited Baghdad on Thursday. Bafel Talabani, the eldest son of the late Iraqi President Jalal Talabani and an influential member of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), separately visited the Iraqi capital on the same day.

Both held talks with senior Baghdad officials, including Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi.

 

Updated at 9:03 pm

[Lucky Dragon]

Well hopefully, Abadi and his list of 13 demands is just a negotiating poi.

The art of the deal. Start crazy high on demands, knowing only five or six will be agreed upon.  I hope. Otherwise this situation with the Kurds is far very far from resolved. In my opinion.

[umbertino]

 

Ministers told of precise links between Iran and Baghdad-backed Shia militia operating in Iraq, claims former UK and Nato official

 

Patrick Wintour, Diplomatic editor

Mon 8 Jan ‘18 05.00 GMT

 

 

 

The claims refer to the weeks in which Baghdad forcibly took back disputed territories after the Kurdish independence referendum

Photograph: Ahmad Al-Rubaye/AFP/Getty Images

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/08/uk-inadvertently-helped-neuter-middle-east-ally-iraqi-kurds-iran-baghdad-shia-militia-claims

[yota691]

Kurdistan announces the completion of the audit of oil exports

 

Economy News Baghdad:   The head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Nechirvan Barzani, the completion of the audit of the accounts of oil exports in the region through two global companies.   "We announce that we have reached a transparent audit formula for oil exports and imports in Kurdistan through Deloitte and Wrestenk," Barzani said at his weekly conference.   He added that the process was carried out through scrutiny under the supervision of the Oil and Gas Commission through a process started last year.   "An important step has been taken in the field of transparency in the field of oil export and we will disclose the figures for exports and imports in detail," he said.     Number of Views 33   Date Added 08/01/2018

[newbieDA]

One area is screaming for Article 140 to be activated!

[newbieDA]

Oil numbers are for the HCL I would imagine? that is what I suspect

[10 YEARS LATER]

These folks do a damn good job of " spaying & neutering " each other without any help from outside influences.

[tigergorzow]

32 minutes ago, newbieDA said:

Oil numbers are for the HCL I would imagine? that is what I suspect

newbieDA,  We all pray this is the case.....😊😊😁😁

[NoviceInvestor]

On 08/01/2018 at 6:15 AM, Floridian said:

Good luck with THAT list!

 Makes me think we may be a ways off from the RV yet.   

Yes ..I write lists of things to do but they never get done...