umbertino Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Transgender people will be allowed to enlist despite opposition from Donald Trump, reflecting growing legal pressure on the issue Associated Press in Washington Monday 11 December 2017 19.07 GMT Two federal courts already have ruled against the military’s transgender ban Photograph: Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/11/pentagon-says-transgender-people-can-enlist-in-us-military-at-start-of-new-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I for one don't see how this can ever even be considered. I would Assume one needs to be Of Reasonably Sound Mind to enter the Military or any other such Profession. I am sorry to break this to more than a few but if a Male part or a Female part ya just can't be Mentally sound when you wake up one day and decide you are of the other sex......Bruce Jenner is guess what....Still a guy, just one that looks like a girl. Karsten 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 AP Tweet Falsely Implies Pentagon Defied Trump’s Orders on Transgender Ban http://freebeacon.com/politics/ap-tweet-falsely-implies-pentagon-defied-trump-orders-transgender-ban/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8th ID Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Karsten said: I for one don't see how this can ever even be considered. I would Assume one needs to be Of Reasonably Sound Mind to enter the Military or any other such Profession. I am sorry to break this to more than a few but if a Male part or a Female part ya just can't be Mentally sound when you wake up one day and decide you are of the other sex......Bruce Jenner is guess what....Still a guy, just one that looks like a girl. Karsten I sure do agree with ya on this. Doctors have repeatedly said this is a mental issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just speaking from being a male...Any male that would want to be a female is definitely in need of some mental health help. My wife said she would like to be in my mind for five minutes to see what it was like. I told her she could not handle the simplicity of it. Women like to think we are complicated and we need help getting through the day. I told her men are very simple. Food Sex Work Play (sports or hobbies) And not necessarily in that order. She wanted to know what I wanted for Christmas. I told her to check my list. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said: Just speaking from being a male...Any male that would want to be a female is definitely in need of some mental health help. My wife said she would like to be in my mind for five minutes to see what it was like. I told her she could not handle the simplicity of it. Women like to think we are complicated and we need help getting through the day. I told her men are very simple. Food Sex Work Play (sports or hobbies) And not necessarily in that order. She wanted to know what I wanted for Christmas. I told her to check my list. Hell, You just about have that right other than that one item you have to sneak into the house, hid it and pretend that you have had it for years....Oh that old thing. Karsten 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Karsten said: Hell, You just about have that right other than that one item you have to sneak into the house, hid it and pretend that you have had it for years....Oh that old thing. Karsten Yes. Those are under #4 in my list. And yes, I have one and she knows all about it. It was a gift from me to me after I past probation on my last job. I said I want one. She said, OK after you pass your 6 month probation. Six months went, got my promotion and said I was ready to buy. She asks, You still want it??? I thought you would have forgotten it. I went.... of course I still want it. She's a good woman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said: Yes. Those are under #4 in my list. And yes, I have one and she knows all about it. It was a gift from me to me after I past probation on my last job. I said I want one. She said, OK after you pass your 6 month probation. Six months went, got my promotion and said I was ready to buy. She asks, You still want it??? I thought you would have forgotten it. I went.... of course I still want it. She's a good woman. Okay, well then she ought to be out looking for one one each of these. Every well manner, self respecting Bible Thumping, Family Love mans need a 15-25 round Bullpup Shotgun to fend off the trolls. Karsten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8th ID Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Karsten said: Hell, You just about have that right other than that one item you have to sneak into the house, hid it and pretend that you have had it for years....Oh that old thing. Karsten Oohh swweeet! My favorite rifle! That’s why I collect those and carbines. When I get a new and get asked, it’s oh no, I have had it for a while. That’s why I will pull 4-5 out at a time to clean or admire..😂 better to ask for forgiveness than permission! 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 i have to admit - sitting through the "Transgender Policy Update" training this month was - to me - one of the most frustrating things I've done in the military recently. I'm glad I'm close to retiring. To me this is just anathema to my beliefs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Goes against my beliefs also. but I met a tranny the other day. Pleasant person to talk to. Different strokes I guess. not sure that I want him/her on my 6 though. to me if a person is willing to change themselves in defiance of what his/her genes dictate, then how can I trust them to do the job while I do mine? dunno. i fear for the MEN & WOMEN who will be forced to adapt to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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