Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

[yota691]

1 minute ago, ChuckFinley said:

Having my morning coffee and catching up with the drama.

I right with ya on the coffee and the news..Check this out The Iraqis Lost a Great Solider Sept 30 Legendary Iraqi sniper Abu Tahseen dies in the battle with almost 350 kills of ISIS and GM Everybody

[ChuckFinley]

1 minute ago, yota691 said:

I right with ya on the coffee and the news..Check this out The Iraqis Lost a Great Solider Sept 30 Legendary Iraqi sniper Abu Tahseen dies in the battle with almost 350 kills of ISIS and GM Everybody

I read that in an earlier post. The guy basically spent his fighting.  

[Mxmann]

56 minutes ago, nannab said:

Please be true for once.   

Let what b true?  Wat did i miss???

[yota691]

1 hour ago, yota691 said:

Baghdad Mawazine News

The commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard General Qassem Soleimani,

A news artilce states this Commander is in the Hospital...

[Half Crazy Runner]

2 hours ago, yota691 said:

US President Barack Obama's envoy arrived in the capital Baghdad

 

Obama..???   😂

 

 

[yota691]

Parliamentary wisdom rejects the proposal to freeze the results of the referendum in Kurdistan

In the policy of  October 15, 2017 on parliamentary wisdom rejects the proposal to freeze the results of a referendum Kurdistan closed 15 visits

 

Baghdad / SNG

 

The head of the parliamentary wisdom bloc Habib terminal, Sunday, that any dialogues with Erbil should be based on the cancellation of the referendum and its results, which was the basis of sedition, pointing out that talk about freezing the results of the referendum is unacceptable.

"All the solutions that preserve Iraqi blood and support the stability we support," he said, noting that "any dialogues with Erbil should be based on the cancellation of the referendum and its results, which was the basis of sedition, either talk about freezing the results of the referendum is not beyond the ash In the eyes and is unacceptable and 
added that "freezing the referendum means that the referendum is in force and could be waved by the Kurdish negotiator as a card at any time feel the inability to achieve additional gains," asserting "ready to enter any dialogues and at any time and conditions set by the government and the Council MPs to reach participants and constituents Country unit reservation ".

The official source revealed, on Sunday (October 15, 2017), that the meeting of Kurdish leaders held in the province of Sulaymaniyah in the presence of the President of the Republic Fouad Masoum and President of the Region The KurdishMassoud Barzani will discuss "freezing" the results of the referendum secession for two years after unanimous agreement.

[yota691]

14 minutes ago, Half Crazy Runner said:

Obama..???   😂

Technically it is... 

[Butifldrm]

PUK and KDP reject demands to cancel referendum result

By Rudaw 1 hour ago

From left to right: Kurdistan Vice President Kosrat Rasul, Iraqi President Fuad Masum, Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani, and influential PUK politburo member Hero Ibrahim Ahmad. Photo: Rudaw TV

 

DUKAN, Kurdistan Region – The meeting of the KDP and PUK leadership in Dukan, joined by Iraqi President Fuad Masum, also a PUK member, has ended with an affirmation of “national unity in the face of all pressure” and a refusal to cancel the referendum result, said Hemin Hawrami, senior assistant to Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani. 

The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) “reject any demands to nullify the referendum results,” Hawrami said on Twitter. They also refused to accept any preconditions for talks with Baghdad. 

Baghdad has said that the Kurdish leadership must cancel the vote before agreeing to enter into any negotiations after the September 25 referendum that saw 92.7 percent support for Kurdistan’s independence from Iraq. 

The meeting in Dukan came after a tense night south of Kirkuk as the Peshmerga were engaged in a standoff with Iraqi and Hashd al-Shaabi forces. Armed civilians took to the streets of Kirkuk, vowing to defend their lands.

The KDP and PUK said they are ready to reach a “peaceful resolution for [the] current standoff in all areas,” Hawrami tweeted. They reject the military option, but are “ready to defend.”

The two parties, who have historically dominated the political and military landscape in the Kurdish lands of Iraq and have been at times firm friends and bitter foes, insisted they are unified as Kurdistan faces pressure from Baghdad and international allies to back off their bid for independence. 

They insist that no one party will enter into negotiations with Baghdad alone. “If there be any negotiation with Baghdad it will be a joint delegation representing all Kurdistan parties,” Hawrami tweeted. 

Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani and Iraqi President Fuad Masum headed the high level meeting of the two main ruling Kurdish parties in Sulaimani’s Dukan resort to discuss the post-referendum crisis between Erbil and Baghdad.
 
Kurdistan Vice President Kosrat Rasul, who is also first deputy head of the PUK, was at the meeting, among other senior PUK and KDP officials, including Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani who is also the KDP deputy head.
 
VP Rasul, who deployed at least 6,000 troops to Kirkuk on Thursday to face Iraqi “threats” on the oil-rich province, told Rudaw in advance of the meeting that it will be “decisive.”

 

 

He said, “We will take decisions on all of the issues” that have faced Kurdistan since 92.7 percent of the people voted for leaving Iraq in the September 25 referendum.

 

Asked about demands from Iraqi forces, including the Hashd al-Shaabi, that the Peshmerga leave their posts or face an attack, Rasul said, “We will decide whether we will agree or reject these demands.”

 

He said the Peshmerga and the people in Kirkuk are more than ready to defend any aggression.

 

 

Hemin Hawrami, senior assistant to President Barzani, said that the meeting will "assess [and] decide" on the issues of concern post September 25, including "regional intervention."

 

Arif Qurbani, a Kurdish journalist with close ties to the PUK, told Rudaw that the meeting is significant since it will put historic responsibility on the shoulders of the two parties, one that they “should live up to.”

 

As the Kurdish leadership meet, US and Iranian representatives are in the country.

 

Brett McGurk, US special presidential envoy to the war against ISIS, visited Baghdad on Saturday where he met with the head of the ruling Shiite National Alliance Ammar al-Hakim to discuss the Kurdistan vote.

 

Qassem Soleimani, commander of Iran’s Quds force, visited Sulaimani on Saturday, publicly paying his respects to the late former Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.

 

Regarding Soleimani’s efforts to derail the Kurdistan vote or cancel its outcome, journalist Qurbani said the Iranian commander is back in Iraq to save face before his superiors in Iran since he failed to stop the vote from taking place.

 

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is expected to hold a meeting with the National Alliance regarding the current crisis between his government and Erbil, Rudaw’s reporter in Baghdad Bahman Hasan said.

 

President Masum, a Kurd, has already held a two-day long meeting with his PUK leadership in Sulaimani on Saturday and Sunday, as well as with Gorran, Kurdistan’s second largest party, on Saturday.

 

PM Barzani had told Rudaw earlier that Masum will announce an initiative to mediate between Erbil and Baghdad.

 

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Tuesday that they will hold no talks with Erbil without first scrapping the Kurdish independence referendum. Erbil has so far refused to give in to this demand from Baghdad, despite the many punitive measures taken against it by the Iraqi government, including a ban on direct international flights to the Kurdistan region, threats to bring the Kurdish land borders under the federal authority in cooperation with neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as warning of deployment of Iraqi forces to the Kurdistani or disputed areas claimed by both governments. 

 

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/15102017

[yota691]

Leaders of the Kurdish parties recommend participating in negotiations with Baghdad under international supervision

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ARAB WORLD

15:58 15.10.2017(Updated 16:07 15.10.2017)

Leaders of the Kurdish parties recommend participating in negotiations with Baghdad under international supervision

Continued…

[yota691]

Iraqi Prime Minister renews his government's position demanding the cancellation of the referendum

Which took place in the north of the country

15.10.2017 ~ 15.10.2017

 

Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi today reiterated the position of his government demanding the cancellation of the results of the referendum conducted by the northern Iraqi region to secede from Iraq.

The media office of the Prime Minister said that Abadi during a meeting with the delegation of "coalition of Iraqi forces" headed by MP Salah al-Jubouri, "the position of the government based on the law and the Constitution to cancel the results of the referendum and impose federal authority in all areas of Iraq and maintain the unity of the country."

For his part, the "Alliance of Iraqi Forces", his support for all decisions taken by Abadi, and that the Prime Minister's position on developments are the same.

Abadi and the Coalition of Iraqi Forces also agreed on a timetable for the return of displaced people to their homes in areas liberated from the terrorist organization.

This called for Vice President Iyad Allawi, to hold an "emergency meeting" to resolve the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil.

Allawi pointed to the need for talks between the President of the northern Iraqi region Massoud Barzani, and Prime Minister Haider Abadi.

Allawi also stressed the need to find a solution to the crisis and deal with the disputed areas, according to the Constitution.

[yota691]

Prime Minister of Kurdistan: We are ready to dialogue with Baghdad without conditions and we hope not to resort to force

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ARAB WORLD

15:33 15.10.2017(Updated 16:01 15.10.2017)

On Sunday, October 15, the Kurdistan region of Iraq confirmed the results of the referendum on secession from Iraq, welcoming the dialogue with Baghdad without preconditions.

 

© SPUTNIK. DMITRIY VINOGRADOV

Conditions of the Iraqi government for dialogue with the Kurdistan Region

"The referendum will not be annulled and dialogue with Baghdad must continue," Prime Minister Nechervan Barzani told reporters after a meeting of Kurdish leaders with Iraqi President Fuad Masum.

 

"We hope that the Baghdad government will not think of resolving the issues militarily."

As for the border closure with Iran, Barzani said: "It is not in Iran's interest to close the border, they have experience and know what the blockade means.

[mr.unlikely]

Once again, the regional leaders stand fast willing to shed the blood of their people to further the agenda of a select bunch of greedy SOB's. 

I don't understand why they can't see that sticking together provides the stability and strength and opportunity to achieve the prosperity that would calm the region and make the people want to participate in society rather than take up arms against it. Baghdad isn't trying to invade Kurdistan, they want to stop the money hemorrhage and bring it to fiscal prudence. We are so close to the implementation of all of the things we have been waiting for that will help us as well as the Iraqi people, Kurds included, that it's maddening to see these rich a-holes demanding things that will allow them to keep stealing from the people. I hope our government and the international community can prevent that long enough for Abadi to implement his agenda of monetary reform. 

[Butifldrm]

Kurdish leadership invites Baghdad for 'unconditional' dialogue

By Rudaw 1 hour ago

Mullah Bakhtyar, head of the executive body of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) (L) during a presser with Nechirvan Barzani, deputy president of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP). Photo: Rudaw

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) stressed following a meeting which lasted several hours on Sunday at Dukan resort in Sulaimani “an unconditional, responsible and constructive dialogue” between Erbil and Baghdad amid growing tensions between the two sides which emerged in the wake of the independence referendum vote. The two sides strongly rejected calls to annul the referendum vote so as to enter into talks with Baghdad.

The KDP and PUK also rejected the use of military force by Baghdad to take over several key areas in the Kirkuk region to resolve its rising rows with Erbil.

“The Kurdistan parties are still ready to hold an open, unconditional and constructive meeting on the basis of Erbil and Baghdad interests and constitutional principles,” read a joint statement by the KDP and PUK. 

During a presser following the meeting, Nechirvan Barzani, deputy president of the KDP and premier of the Kurdistan Region reiterated the two parties' stance regarding the referendum vote saying "the referendum result will not be annulled as it is not a solution. The only solution is settlement."

Concerning a buildup of the Iraqi army and Shiite Hashd al-Shaabi and their standoff with the Peshmerga in Kirkuk, the KDP-PUK statement read “on security and military issues in areas outside the Kurdistan Region or any other place, any sort of military intervention or the movement of forces or threats will endanger the Baghdad-Erbil relations and any genuine attempt to peacefully resolve the problems.”

It added attempts of military usage will “directly violate the rules and regulations made for the Iraqi armed forces to avoid involvement in resolving the internal political problems.”

The meeting of the KDP and PUK leadership in Dukan, joined by Iraqi President Fuad Masum, also a PUK member, ended with an affirmation of “national unity in the face of all pressure” and a refusal to cancel the referendum result, said Hemin Hawrami, senior assistant to Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani. 
 

Amid increasing pressures on the Region to annul the referendum vote which saw an overwhelming 93 percent ‘Yes’ vote, the two Kurdish parties “stressed the unity of our nation and the political parties of Kurdistan who are the source of assurances of running the joint duties at this stage.”

“The meeting found it was in the interest of all sides, Iraqi and Kurdish political parties to take part in the Region and Baghdad talks to be monitored by the international bodies,” the statement read. 

Baghdad has said that the Kurdish leadership must cancel the vote before agreeing to enter into any negotiations after the September 25 referendum that saw 92.7 percent support for Kurdistan’s independence from Iraq.
 
The meeting in Dukan came after a tense night south of Kirkuk as the Peshmerga were engaged in a standoff with Iraqi and Hashd al-Shaabi forces. Armed civilians took to the streets of Kirkuk, vowing to defend their lands.

Both the Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and Iraq’s Joint Operations Command deny that they are planning to attack the Peshmerga-controlled territories, including Kirkuk, one of the disputed or Kurdistani areas that are under Kurdish control but also claimed by Baghdad. 

The Iraqi PM has called on the Kurdish leadership to administer the disputed areas in a joint manner with the Iraqi government until Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution that concerns the fate of the disputed areas is implemented. 
 

A Peshmerga official speaking to reporters on the frontline in Talward village south of Kirkuk on Saturday assured the people of Kirkuk that they would "in no way" leave the area for Hashd al-Shaabi and the Iraqi army to take over. 

"We have never and will in no way leave our positions," said Omer Salih, a high-ranking Peshmerga official, adding they are "emboldened" by the support from the people of Kirkuk.

 

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/151020172

[Butifldrm]

Kurds 'reject' Baghdad's demand to nullify referendum results

Leaders of Iraq's Kurdistan region have renewed their negotiation offer to Baghdad but said they would not cancel the outcome of an independence vote. Kurdish officials also snubbed "military threats" over Kirkuk.

 

A meeting between Iraqi President Fuad Masum and his Kurdish counterpart, Masud Barzani, was held in Sulaymaniyah after a deadline set by the Iraqi government for peshmerga fighters to surrender expired on Sunday, Iraqi media reported.

After meeting with Iraqi officials on Sunday, Barzani said his government had rejected Baghdad's demand to cancel the outcome of an independence vote and pledged to defend the autonomous region in case of an attack.

Kurdish leaders, however, renewed their offer to resolve the crisis peacefully with Baghdad, Barzani's aide Hemin Hawrami said on Twitter.

"There will not be any unilateral negotiation with Baghdad by either PUK or KDP. If there be any negotiation with Baghdad it will be a joint delegation representing all Kurdistan parties. KDP/PUK reject any demands to nullify the referendum results. Refuse preconditions," Hawrami said.

 

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Iran's mediation efforts

According to a Kurdish official, Major General Qassem Soleimani, commander of foreign operations for Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, also arrived in Iraq's Kurdistan region to defuse tensions between Kurdish authorities and Baghdad following the Kurdish independence referendum.

Iran's Tasnim news agency, without quoting a source, said Sunday that Iran closed its border gates with northern Iraq "considering the development in Iraq's Kurdistan."

Iran's Foreign Ministry later denied reports about the border closure.

"As we announced earlier, we blocked our airspace to the Kurdish region on a request from the central government of Iraq, and as far as I know, nothing new has happened in this area," the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) quoted Foreign Ministry spokesman Bahram Qassemi as saying.

Kurdish fighters have reportedly rejected the Iraqi warning to withdraw from Kirkuk

Escalating crisis

The Kurdish forces were given a deadline of 2 a.m. local time Sunday (2300 GMT Saturday) to surrender their positions and return to their pre-June 2014 positions. Unconfirmed local media reports say the deadline has been extended for another 24 hours.

At the scene, a photographer with Agence France-Presse reported seeing armored vehicles bearing the Iraqi national flag on the banks of a river on the southern outskirts of the city of Kirkuk.

"Our forces are not moving and are now waiting for orders from the general staff," an Iraqi army officer told AFP.

Facing the Iraqi forces on the opposite bank of the river were Kurdish peshmerga fighters.

On Friday, Kurdish authorities said they had sent thousands more troops to Kirkuk to confront Iraqi "threats."

Reuters news agency said Sunday Kurdish peshmerga forces had rejected the Iraqi warning to withdraw from a strategic junction south of Kirkuk.

Tensions soar after 'illegal' referendum

Tensions between the two allies in the war against the "Islamic State" (IS) have been escalating since a Kurdish independence referendum last month that Baghdad has called "anti-constitutional."

The Kurds overwhelmingly voted for an independent state in the September 25 referendum.

Read more: Opinion: Kurds find few friends in independence referendum

Abadi has repeatedly denied any plans to attack the Kurds

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi demanded that Kurdish leaders annul the referendum vote and called for a dialogue within the framework of the constitution.

After the referendum, the Iraqi parliament asked the prime minister to use armed force to retake control of oil-rich Kirkuk, claimed by both Iraqi Kurdistan and the Iraqi central government in Baghdad.

The Kurdish peshmerga prevented the province's oil fields from falling into the hands of IS jihadis in 2014.

The Kurdish regional government included the disputed oil-rich province in the independence referendum, reflecting the Kurds' historical claim to the area. Baghdad had controlled Kirkuk before IS pushed out the Iraqi army three years ago.

Read more: What is the Iraqi Kurdish independence referendum?

'No plans for a military operation'

Abadi has repeatedly denied any plans to attack the Kurds, insisting Thursday that he was "not going... to make war on our Kurdish citizens."

But thousands of heavily armed troops and members of the Popular Mobilization paramilitary force, formed mainly by Iranian-trained Shiite groups, have taken position around Kirkuk.

Kurdish peshmerga fighters also rejected a 2100 GMT deadline from the paramilitary force to withdraw from a strategic junction south of Kirkuk city, Reuters news agency reported, citing a Kurdish security official. The strategic position north of the Maktab Khalid junction controls access to an air base and some of the oil fields located in the region.

shs, ap/sms (AFP, Reuters)

http://www.dw.com/en/kurds-reject-baghdads-demand-to-nullify-referendum-results/a-40956560

[Butifldrm]

Iraq troops in armed standoff with Kurd forces

AFP | Published — Sunday 15 October 2017

 

Iraqi forces pose with a natinoal flag as they stand on a river bank across Kurdish peshmerga positions on October 14, 2017, on the southern outskirts of Kirkuk. (AFP)

 

MARYAM BEIK, Iraq: Thousands of Iraqi troops were locked in an armed standoff with Kurdish forces in the disputed oil province of Kirkuk on Saturday as Washington scrambled to avert fighting between the key allies in the war against the Islamic State group.
Armored cars of the Iraqi Army bearing the national flag were posted on the bank of a river on the southern outskirts of the city of Kirkuk, an AFP photographer reported.
On the opposite bank, Kurdish Peshmerga fighters were visible behind an earthen embankment topped with concrete blocks painted with the red, white green and yellow of the Kurdish flag.
“Our forces are not moving and are now waiting for orders from the general staff,” an Iraqi Army officer told AFP, asking not to be identified.
The two sides have been at loggerheads since the Kurds voted overwhelmingly for independence in a Sept. 25 referendum that Baghdad rejected as illegal. Polling was held not only in the three provinces of the autonomous Kurdish region but also in adjacent Kurdish-held areas, including Kirkuk.
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi has said there can be no further discussion of the Kurds’ longstanding demands to incorporate Kirkuk and other historically Kurdish-majority areas in their autonomous region until the independence vote is annulled.
He insisted on Thursday that he was “not going... to make war on our Kurdish citizens.”
But thousands of heavily armed troops and members of the Iranian-backed Popular Mobilization Force (PMF) have massed around Kirkuk.
They have already retaken a string of positions to the south of the city after Kurdish forces withdrew.
The Kurds have deployed thousands of Peshmerga fighters to the area around Kirkuk itself and have vowed to defend the city “at any cost.”
So far the front lines have been quiet but the Kurds said they had received an ultimatum to withdraw.
Washington has military advisers deployed with both sides in the standoff and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Friday that it was working to reduce tensions.
“We are trying to tone everything down and to figure out how we go forward without losing sight of the enemy, and at the same time recognizing that we have got to find a way to move forward,” Mattis told reporters.
“Everybody stay focused on defeating ISIS (Daesh). We can’t turn on each other right now. We don’t want to go to a shooting situation,” he added, using an alternative acronym for IS.
Last week, the Iraqi Army retook the Sunni Arab insurgent bastion of Hawija, the last town in Kirkuk province in Daesh hands, but there has been fighting in the countryside since.
The tensions between the Kurds and the Shiite militias in Kirkuk have spilled over into sporadic violence elsewhere in Iraq. In the mainly Shiite Turkmen town of Tuz Khurmatu in neighboring Salaheddin province, three PMF paramilitaries and two Kurdish Peshmerga were wounded in a firefight overnight, Town Council spokesman Shalal Abdul said.
In the mainly Shiite city of Hilla, south of Baghdad, the offices of a Kurdish-owned mobile phone company were firebombed and three of its staff briefly abducted, police said.

 

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1177586/middle-east

[Synopsis]

5 hours ago, yota691 said:

US President Barack Obama's envoy arrived in the capital Baghdad on a visit to focus on the escalating crisis between the federal government and the Kurdistan region. 

 

3 hours ago, Half Crazy Runner said:

Obama..???   😂

 

Good Catch, Half Crazy Runner, and The Best Of Your Weekend To You! 

 

In all my time of reading these articles, I had not seen references to previous US Administrations indicating they are still operating. In the past few days, I saw articles referencing Colin Powell twice and Bush (Jr.?) once.

 

Donald J. Trump has been big and bold everywhere so I can't imagine this is simply a journalistic mistake. References to Colin Powell from two US Presidential Administrations ago? I can't imagine that being a journalistic mistake either.

 

So, I am left to think the articles referencing past US Presidential Administration individuals could be previously scripted news articles that are now being released. The lingering question is, "Why were these articles not updated to note the people currently in these positions?"

 

I find these occurrences to be odd and may indicate the tree is being shaken while all we can do is wait to see what falls out!

 

Go Moola Nova!

[10 YEARS LATER]

4 hours ago, Half Crazy Runner said:

 

Obama..???   😂

 

 

 1st it's Secretary of State Colin Powell - NOW it's an Obama Envoy ? Is it any wonder ( and you don't really have to ask why ) that it's so screwed up over there, with statements like this.  

[DinarThug]

US warplanes seen in Kirkuk skies as IMIS starts war - sources

October 15 2017 12:59 AM

 

Breaking

 

US warplanes have been seen in Kirkuk skies, sources confirm. 

This comes as Iraqi forces and Iran-backed IMIS militias are attacking Peshmerga forces in Kirkuk. 

US army warned to attack the side that will start hostile operations in the city. 

More follows.

link

[10 YEARS LATER]

3 hours ago, yota691 said:

Iraqi Prime Minister renews his government's position demanding the cancellation of the referendum

Which took place in the north of the country

15.10.2017 ~ 15.10.2017

 

Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi today reiterated the position of his government demanding the cancellation of the results of the referendum conducted by the northern Iraqi region to secede from Iraq.

The media office of the Prime Minister said that Abadi during a meeting with the delegation of "coalition of Iraqi forces" headed by MP Salah al-Jubouri, "the position of the government based on the law and the Constitution to cancel the results of the referendum and impose federal authority in all areas of Iraq and maintain the unity of the country."

For his part, the "Alliance of Iraqi Forces", his support system" rel="">support for all decisions taken by Abadi, and that the Prime Minister's position on developments are the same.

Abadi and the Coalition of Iraqi Forces also agreed on a timetable for the return of displaced people to their homes in areas liberated from the terrorist organization.

This called for Vice President Iyad Allawi, to hold an "emergency meeting" to resolve the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil.

Allawi pointed to the need for talks between the President of the northern Iraqi region Massoud Barzani, and Prime Minister Haider Abadi.

Allawi also stressed the need to find a solution to the crisis and deal with the disputed areas, according to the Constitution.

 

I imagine it's entirely up to these 2 polar opposites, just how long they will be willing to argue this point to the determent of the population(s) and to National Unity; not to mention reconstruction, the reform process & RV.

 

TY Yota 

[dinarham]

Both Abadi ,as reported on this site ,and Mattis ,as reported by the AP 10/15/17 ,  do not want this situation to escalate .  We may have a fake war going on . I just don't trust the media ,nor should I

[dinarham]

No helmets ,fake jeeps .

[DinarThug]

Is oil mixed with water .. Philosophy of governance in the Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis after 2003?

 

 

 

 

2017/10/15 09:21:04 AM 
A decade after the fall of the regime of Saddam Hussein, pushed the United States to form a transitional Governing Council, among the three largest components in the country, begin with the stage of building and management of the state and the philosophy of each party to maintain the unity of Iraq and the people.

Since the establishment of the modern Iraqi state in the 1920s, most of the country's political elite has been descended from the Sunni Arab minority. The great historical significance of the US-led invasion of 2003 was to enable the Arab-Shiite majority to claim power for the first time in their history, while entrenching the special rights of the ethnic Kurdish minority.

However, the foreign occupation also led to a Sunni insurgency that targeted US forces and the Shiite majority government. Which peaked in 2006-2008. Sectarian tensions remained one of the main obstacles to the establishment of stable democratic governance.

Rejection of the Constitution

From the very beginning, the Sunni political leadership worked to mobilize the Sunni Arabs towards a complete rejection of the proposed draft constitution before it was voted by the House of Representatives by the end of 2005,

Sunni Arabs objected to the principle of federalism in the constitution and considered it a danger that would lead to the division of the country. Perhaps the question of the distribution of wealth between the federal government and the provinces, as Sunni Arabs believe that "the best is that the center to divide the wealth In the case of federalism in Iraq, the Sunnis feel that they can be a victim of this division in the distribution of Iraq's oil wealth Kurds will retain in the north by their own self If the Shiites in the south do the same, Sunnis will feel completely marginalized, as Sunni leaders say at the time.

In this situation, Sunni leaders have abandoned the rights of their constituents and their participation in the building of the one country that Iraqis aspire to, just as it was lost during the general election on January 30, 2004, which produced a Kurdish-Shiite alliance.

Kurdistan referendum

Despite the fact that all the Iraqi politicians, of all sects, have expressed their views on the subject of the referendum on the secession of Kurdistan, September 25, 2017, and declared their positions, whether accepted or rejected, except Sunni Arab politicians, it is not clear their position so far, neither opposition nor support , With a small exception to the position taken by the leader of the Union of Iraqi forces Osama Najafi, opposed to the organization of the referendum in Kirkuk and some of the disputed areas with the recognition and respect for the right of the Kurds to secession, and this was stated in the statement of his new party (Iraq united).

What is surprising is the blurring of the Sunni Arab position that they are the most affected component of the Kurdish referendum and independence if it is done. The fledgling Kurdish state will cut into the areas known as the disputed areas, most of which belong to the Sunni Arab component. However, And loudly on the referendum of the Kurds for separation, which led the parliamentary representative of the Turkmen component, "Nahla Hababi," criticized the absence of the Sunni position frank from the Kurdistan independence referendum.

While the Shiite politicians, despite their great differences, are united by their rejection of the Kurdish referendum and the independence of Kurdistan, we find that at the same time, Kurdish politicians, despite their bitter differences, are mostly united in the path of independence to the end, but Sunni Arabs are divided, not only in the issue of the Kurdish referendum , But in all issues concerning the fate of their component and Iraq in general.

"The Sunnis did not stand with the Shiites in many fateful issues that are of interest to the country, on sectarian grounds and the Shiites," said Badr Razzak al-Haidari, a member of the Badr bloc.

"The Sunnis left Iraq in 2005 when they refused to participate in the constitution, so how can they be real partners with us and they are taking without giving to this country, in order to undermine Shiite rule.

The slogan of autonomy

In turn, the writer and political thinker Ghaleb Shabandar said in his interview with "One News" that if it were not for the Shiites of Iraq, the Iraqi flesh would remain fragile, pointing out that "the Shiites maintained the unity of Iraq and fought for the sake of Palestine and protected Arab and Arab, , And made sacrifices in order to liberate their cities from dashing. "

"The tangible reality says so, to take the Sunni areas into account, its streets are clean, while the Shiite areas are intolerable, and this is part of the Shiite sacrifices for Iraq and the preservation of partnership," he said.

"What prevents Shiites from raising the slogan of self-rule in Iraq, and they have oil and fertile land?" Shabandar asked. Stressing that "Sunni philosophy if they were in line with the Shiite philosophy in the government, to become the strongest entities in the world."

Disengagement of the Shiite-Kurdish Alliance

The crisis of the referendum on the secession of Iraq's Kurdistan region deepened on September 25, 2017, the size of the differences between the Kurds and the Shiite coalition, the majority of the government, amid speculation that the alliance broke out, which lasted for about 10 years between the two sides.

It is noteworthy that the leaders of the two main Shiite parties (the coalition of state law and the Islamic Supreme Council) and the two main Kurdish parties in the northern region (KDP and the Patriotic Union), agreed in October 2007 on the formation of a Shiite-Kurdish alliance includes a document among the points committed to commit everyone Most notably the real participation of the authority of all political partners and avoid the policy of exclusion and exclusion.

However, holding the referendum on September 25, despite warnings and internal and international warnings, put the Shiite-Kurdish alliance in a critical position and deepened the gap in the contentious issues that are still stuck between the two sides.

The goal of the Kurds became clear in the partnership with the Arabs in the building of the Iraqi state. It is the victory of the Kurdish nationalism through the referendum. Thus, the Shiite political poles became the only player in the face of the critical conditions that the country is going through. The other two elements sought to win their interests and bring them to the benefit of the country. .

"We do not forget the national positions of the Shiites in maintaining national unity among the components, and we do not want to break this historic alliance, but unfortunately they are today pushing this trend," said Kurdistan Democratic Party MP Ardalan Nuruddin. .

"The referendum is a legitimate right, and the insistence of the Shiite majority government on fighting the Kurds to discourage them from achieving the dream of separation will create a big gap between the Shiites and the Kurds in the next stage."

Clients of Israel

Many Sunni Arab preachers after the fall of the regime in 2003 have accused the Kurds of neglect and employment of America and Israel. They did not differentiate between the leaders of the secular Kurdish parties and the majority of the Kurdish people, namely Sunnis. However, many Sunni political leaders recognized the independence of Kurdistan and any other demands It is demanded by the Kurdish political leadership, which in turn is reflected in the proposals of the Sunni Arabs themselves.

If the MP from the Union of Forces, Raad Al-Dahlaki said in an exclusive interview with "One News", that "the partnership if it ended between the Shiites and the Kurds, it did not end between the Sunni Arabs and the Kurds in Baghdad," asserting that "the referendum made Iraq enter a new turn is different from What existed since 2003, until September 25, 2017. " He pointed out that "the relationship between the Kurds and the Arabs more than seven thousand years and link them a relationship of land and blood and brothers."

Dakhlaki, described the day of the Kurdistan referendum as "the Kurdish cry on the one who is unique to power in Baghdad," pointing out that "it is no different from the Sunni cry that came demonstrations several years ago in the Sunni areas," stressing the need to "re-study the reality and political partnership to be An Iraq with rights and benefits for all and equally ".

Local authorities

Iraq is divided into 18 provinces, each with its own governor and local council. Popular federal calls in the oil-rich south of the south, which seek greater benefits from local natural resources, have increased after a referendum on the secession of Kurdistan, and these calls have risen in Sunni provinces in the northwest of the country because they do not trust the Shi'ite-dominated government in Baghdad , According to some Sunni officials.

Coalitions and disagreements

Coalition governments in Iraq include Shi'ites, Sunnis and Kurds. However, the prime minister's position appears to have been reserved for the Shiites by virtue of the political majority, given their demographics (they make up an estimated 60 percent of the population).

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Synopsis I agree with you that this may be scripted . But at the same time I have held a quiet belief that Iraq is crucially important to the United States future and that every President ,Secretary of State and every person involved has still continued in some way shape or form to make sure it is a success . I remember 3 years ago an article where Kurdish officials flew to the US to meet Bush Jr. at a Hotel in DC. 3 days later we were landing C 130's filled with aid in Kurdistan .I'm not for certain . But if all hands on deck are needed right now ? And by the size of the US Envoy that was just sent  they are  needed. Then send all the Presidents men to get this done .

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Just now, blueskyline said:

Synopsis I agree with you that this may be scripted . But at the same time I have held a quiet belief that Iraq is crucially important to the United States future and that every President ,Secretary of State and every person involved has still continued in some way shape or form to make sure it is a success . I remember 3 years ago an article where Kurdish officials flew to the US to meet Bush Jr. at a Hotel in DC. 3 days later we were landing C 130's filled with aid in Kurdistan .I'm not for certain . But if all hands on deck are needed right now ? And by the size of the US Envoy that was just sent  they are  needed. Then send all the Presidents men to get this done .

 

Thank You, BlueSkyLine, for the exceptionally plausible explanation! The Best Of Your Weekend To You! 

 

I just find it odd that all of a sudden these "journalistic anomalies" are appearing at a seemingly greater frequency. I am just wondering, "Why now?" Seems to suggest something interesting is going on, maybe right in front of our eyes, and only time will reveal the intentions to all this - maybe.

 

During the end of Bush Jr.'s Presidential Administration, there was a lot of activity around the US/Iraqi Strategic Framework Agreement (SFA). The SFA seemed to stall during the Obama Presidential Administration. However, immediately after US President Donald J. Trump's Inauguration, the SFA activity picked up again and now seems to be ready for implementation. Around the time of the completion of the Mosul campaign, there were articles calling for the SFA to be activated by Iraqi officials but the call for activation has not had the same attention in the past couple/few months. However, there does appear to be another SFA drawn up with Iraq and France. This is interesting to me since apparently only the US and France have SFAs drawn up for future (maybe not too distant future). I am not aware, and others may know, if there are other specifically stated SFAs between Iraq and other foreign countries. I suspect it would be UK then China then Russia then, maybe, Germany.

 

With the retaking of all urban and rural areas from ISIS in Iraq, and maybe Syria, projected in the very near future, there may be a flurry of activity with subsequent news articles calling for the implementation of these SFAs in conjunction with Reconstruction and massive foreign investment.

 

I am inclined to think these "journalistic anomalies" are a good indicator for us but will have to wait and see!

 

Go Moola Nova!

 

 

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15 October - 2017         Prime Minister and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Dr. Haider Al-Abadi heads the meeting of the Ministerial Council for National Security       The Prime Minister and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, Dr. Haider Al-Abadi, chaired the meeting of the   Ministerial Council for National Security.  The council stressed that the priority is still to end the presence of gangs and to encourage terror in all regions of Iraq.  The Council explained during the meeting that it indicates the quest of the parties implementing the referendum unconstitutional in the Kurdistan region to create a case of military mobilization in various claims, hoping to mislead the citizens of the Kurds and their view of the serious consequences of the referendum, and that his truth is not for the benefit of the Kurds but for the interests of a dominant area and resources And an attempt to abort the crystallization of any official Kurdish position seeking treatment. The National Security Council warned of the serious escalation and provocations by forces belonging to the Kurdistan region outside the borders of the province, which wants to drag the country into internal strife in order to achieve its goal of dismantling Iraq and the region in order to establish a state on an ethnic basis.  The Council stressed that the insistence on holding the referendum outside the Constitution despite the objection of the partners of the homeland and outside the national partnership and stand against the international community indicates that there is a deliberate intention to resort to force and impose the status quo. The council pointed out that the extension of the region's militants to areas beyond the borders defined in the constitution by the force of arms and threats and the persecution and displacement of the people living in the majority non-Kurdish areas and prevent the return of displaced persons in a bid to change the demographic drag the country into a devastating conflict.  The Ministerial Council on National Security also warned against the mobilization of armed elements outside the regular security system in Kirkuk from influential parties that do not belong to Kirkuk and the infighting of irregular forces, some belonging to an organization PKK Turkish, considering it a dangerous escalation can not be tolerated and it represents a declaration of war on the rest Iraqis and regular federal forces. The Council pointed out that while we are keen to ensure peace throughout the country, the federal government and the regular forces will do their duty to defend citizens from all walks of life of the Iraqi people, including the Kurds, and to defend Iraq's sovereignty and unity in cooperation with the international community.  The Ministerial Council for National Security also affirmed the government's determination to work for the return of displaced persons to all areas forcibly taken over by the forces of the province, as well as to expedite the completion of the return of the rest of the displaced to other areas liberated by our armed forces from gangs. The Council reaffirmed that the disputed areas would be managed by federal forces and local forces under the leadership of the federal authority   Prime Minister's Media Office October    15 , 2017   http://pmo.iq/press2017/15-10-201701.htm