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Nascar owners threaten anthem protesters as Presidents Cup and NBA prepare to start

 

Childress tells employers to respect anthem or ‘get on a Greyhound bus’

 

Presidents Cup and NBA preseason may be next arenas of protest

 

Guardian sport and agencies

Monday 25 September 2017 12.51 BST

 

 

 

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Martin Truex Jr stands during the national anthem prior to the Nascar New Hampshire motor speedway event on Sunday.
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Nascar is a dying sport.  Rebel flag waving fans are all they have left....lose them and it's over.  As always, just my opinion.  ;)

 

GO RV, then BV

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I think that President D-Rex Trump hit the nail on the head ! Those players make more money than most people would make in ten lifetimes, if they can't be respectful of our flag and the National Anthem, boot their sorry asses out !

The NFL deserves to take a big hit on this one ! If they don't stand up for our country then they should all be out of a job. Anybody remember the Dixie Chicks ? I loved their music just right before they attacked our military, after that never listened to the again...By By NFL ! :butt-kicking:

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Nascar is a dying sport.  Rebel flag waving fans are all they have left....lose them and it's over.  As always, just my opinion.  ;)

 

GO RV, then BV

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Bristol TV ratings: NASCAR Cup Series racing from Bristol earned an overnight .9 rating with 4.23 million viewers on NBC Saturday.[More](8-21-2017)

Michigan TV ratings: NASCAR Cup Series racing from Michigan earned a 1.96 overnight rating on NBCSN Sunday afternoon.(8-14-2017)
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Watkins Glen TV ratings UPDATE: NBCSN earned a 1.9 overnight rating for the I LOVE NEW YORK 355 at the Glen.(8-7-2017)
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Pocono overnight TV ratings UPDATE: NBCSN's coverage of the Cup Series race from Pocono earned a 2.01 overnight rating.(7-31-2017)
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Indianapolis TV ratings: NBC earned a 3.3 overnight for yesterday's Brickyard400 at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. That's up 18% from a 2.8 for last year's race, though that was on NBCSN.(7-24-2017)
UPDATE: The NASCAR Cup Series Brickyard 400 earned a 3.4 final rating and 5.6 million viewers on NBC Sunday afternoon, up 10% in ratings and 8% in viewership from last year.[More](7-26-2017)

New Hampshire TV Ratings: The Overton's 301 at New Hampshire Motor Speedway drew 3.2 million viewers on Sunday, 1.95 rating.[More](7-18-2017)

Kentucky overnight TV ratings: NBCSN earned a 1.6 rating and 2.7 million viewers for the Quaker State 400.[More](7-10-2017)

Fox sees 12% decline over last year's ratings: Fox and FS1 for its package of 15 Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series races this season averaged 4.9 million viewers, down 12% from 5.6 million last year and down 14% from 5.7 million in '15, which was the first deal under a new media rights agreement.[More](7-7-2017)

Daytona TV Ratings In the Saturday ratings this week, NBC's broadcast of the NASCAR Coke Zero 400 race won by a landslide with a 1.0 average rating in the night. It was the only program to reach the 1.0 barrier with an average of 5.01 million viewers.(TV by the Numbers and showbuzzdaily.com)
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Sonoma TV Ratings FS1 on Sunday afternoon drew a 1.9 overnight for the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series race from Sonoma Raceway, down 14% from a 2.2 last year. The 1.9 also is down 21% from FS1's 2.4 overnight in 2015. There were 3.240 million viewers.(Sports Business Daily / Showbuzzdaily)(6-27-2017)
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Dover TV Ratings: NASCAR Cup Series racing from Dover, Del., earned a 2.1 final rating and 3.4 million viewers on Fox Sports 1 Sunday afternoon - down 16% in ratings and viewership from last year (2.5, 3.99M) and down 16% and 15% respectively from 2015 (3.9, 3.94M).[More](6-7-2017)

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NASCAR is one of the most popular sports in the United States and it has plenty of fans around the world as well. Although it isn’t considered one of the Big 4 sports in the US, it’s ratings prove that it is more of a contender than a pretender.

The NASCAR Sprint Cup Series is just 0.03 behind the NHL Stanley Cup finals in terms of the average size of audience.

 

NASCAR Demographics

These NASCAR demographics will shine a light on who the average audience member happens to be, how often they watch races, and even what they are most likely to purchase. There is one thing that is certain about these facts: they will surprise you.

  • NASCAR has the highest share of Caucasians that watch the sport than any other US sport at 94%.
  • 37%. That’s the percentage of NASCAR’s audience that is made up of women.
  • Only 9% of the overall NASCAR audience fits into the 18-34 age demographic.
  • 1 in 2 people who watch NASCAR on a regular basis are above the age of 55. 3 in 4 people in the NASCAR demographic are 35+.
  • The average NASCAR fan earns between $40k-$75k per year.
  • 9 out of 10 NASCAR fans earn at least $20k every year from the work they do.
  • People who watch NASCAR are just as likely to earn between $75k-$100k as they are to make above $100k.
  • The percentage of the NASCAR audience that is African American: 2%.
  • The total number of estimated NASCAR fans in the United States: 75 million.
  • 1 in 3 households that watch NASCAR regularly has children in the home that are under the age of 18.

The generalization that a NASCAR fan is generally rich and white is actually fairly accurate. It isn’t a sport for those who are part of the minority ethnicities in the United States. Even Hispanics make up just 2% of the overall population demographic. What stands out most here is that women are the more likely to consider their favorite sport than any other sport in the US, including the NFL. In other words, a lot of people like to say that racing is boring to watch, but 1 out of 3 of those people who say they don’t watch the sport are probably lying about it.

Do The Demographics of NASCAR Hurt of Help?

  • The average NASCAR fan is almost 2x more likely to be over 45 than under 29.
  • African-Americans are 27% less likely and Hispanics are 20% less likely to follow the sport when compared to Caucasians.
  • The average NASCAR fan is twice as likely to live in rural areas of the South or Midwest.
  • 1 in 5 NASCAR fans is likely to support gun laws that are more lenient compared to the rest of the general US population.
  • 1 in 4 NASCAR fans say that their religious beliefs are very important to them.
  • NASCAR fans are 50% more likely to be registered Republicans than Democrats.

In many ways, the NASCAR demographic is looking for a Hail Mary pass that will help it to expand into other areas and regions. Although the salaries are relatively high, many of the consumers are either rural or in areas where $100k isn’t going to provide much leverage for spending. The differences between the average NASCAR fan and the average fan who doesn’t like NASCAR are very polarized. If the sport is going to reinvent itself and reach out into new demographics, the changes are going to need to be subtle. If they are vast and profound, NASCAR may find itself losing one set of fans to gain another set of fans, giving it a net zero change in its overall demographics.

What Is The Power of NASCAR Today?

  • NASCAR is the #2 sport on television in the United States.
  • 100. That’s the number of countries that broadcast NASCAR races on local television sets. Broadcasts are available in over 20 different languages.
  • Over $2 billion in licensed product sales annually, making NASCAR a consistent performer among all major sports.
  • 8 out of 10 people who purchase NASCAR products from local retailers ask those retailers if they’ll stock more merchandise to be purchased.
  • NASCAR fans are 3x more likely to try and purchase NASCAR sponsor’s products and services than the general sports fan demographic.
  • Two-thirds of NASCAR fans say that they don’t mind paying extra for NASCAR products. 89% say that when they see a NASCAR logo on a product, that they know it will be a high quality item.
  • 72% of NASCAR fans say that they purchase specific products because they are loyal to a specific driver on the circuit.
  • 53% of the NASCAR demographic will purchase items because they feel like collecting memorabilia is a very important part of their life.

The NASCAR demographic is spending billions on merchandise and memorabilia, but it needs to have the NASCAR logo on it in order to guarantee quality. It isn’t just merchandise with the logo, however, that fans are buying. Any business that is an official partner of NASCAR and is authorized to display the logo is viewed as providing a community with a high quality product or service. With 38% of NASCAR fans living in the southern US, local businesses who can become local partners of the racing circuit are setting themselves for a very bright financial future.

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LeBron James joins NFL in hitting back at Trump: 'The people run this country'

 

League spokesman says protest gestures represent ‘real locker-room talk’

 

James says country is not run by individual ‘and damn sure not him’

 

 

Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington

Monday 25 September 2017 17.51 BST

 

 

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Seventeen New England Patriots kneeled during the anthem before their victory over Houston Texans on Sunday. Some home fans booed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/25/nascar-owners-threaten-anthem-protesters-as-presidents-cup-and-nba-prepare-to-start

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LeBron James joins NFL in hitting back at Trump: 'The people run this country'

 

Yep! We do run this country. And you Dam Sure Ain't one of us you racist little spoiled rotten idiot

Kneel in front of this Jarhead and see what happens to your sorry butt then.., :butt-kicking:

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11 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Yep! We do run this country. And you Dam Sure Ain't one of us you racist little spoiled rotten idiot

Kneel in front of this Jarhead and see what happens to your sorry butt then.., :butt-kicking:

Tell it like it is LGD ! Unfortunately they suffer from too much money because they are unable to tell me why kneeling against the American flag and National Anthem and what in the hell that has to do with their racist rights. If they don't support our troops and flags and National Anthem , they can get the hell out ! The NFL is now banned on my TV !  

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44 minutes ago, Texstorm said:

Tell it like it is LGD ! Unfortunately they suffer from too much money because they are unable to tell me why kneeling against the American flag and National Anthem and what in the hell that has to do with their racist rights. If they don't support system" rel="">support our troops and flags and National Anthem , they can get the hell out ! The NFL is now banned on my TV !  

Agreed : But it'll be interesting to hear on the news just how many people viewed the NFL games next week and what all the advertisers will have to say about it  JMHO +1

 

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On 9/24/2017 at 11:46 PM, Jaxinjersey said:

As I also just posted in the "DEAR NFL" thread....

 

Jim, I think it's quite clear to all that everyone has the Constitutional right to not pledge, or to not stand for the National Anthem... so, the linked article is quite moot to the conversation, as it simply provides for legalities...

 

In the context of this NFL (and similar) situation... it seems that millions upon millions of other citizens DO respect the National Anthem and the flag, while a mere handful DO NOT... and can't even articulate why.  That's just shallow and weak.  I, for one, respectfully ask... "WHAT exactly are you protesting?"  While the anthem and flag represents the history of, and the many thousands of great things about America... how is it that seemingly ONE "issue" (of which hasn't been respectfully, honestly, or courageously presented) can diminish the honor of what the anthem/flag represents?   I'm sure I speak for the many millions, when I say... "It can't".

 

These protesters need to find a legitimate spokesperson and venue... then, perhaps the conversation will have more genuine meaning, especially in context to Constitutional rights and freedom... and less in the veil of manufactured Social Justice and Entitlement issues.

 

Hi Jax :)

I agree.

 

Although i support anyones right to peaceful gathering to protest, it seems to me during a game is not the proper venue as I have stated in another thread.

The fans are there and are paying these athletes salaries to see a game, not watch them take a knee during the anthem or protest during a game. On their OWN time,

they should gather and make their case public, outside of the arena. They are on their employer dime, and what they are doing is wrong just with that

in my opinion. If it were my team that I owned, I would have made it clear that is not going to happen, but I would have also told them I support their

protest on their own time, once I knew what it was AND if it was respectable and a good cause, not just political whining.

 

Some say it is because of "police brutality". Ok, fine, but why during the anthem? Just my thoughts, but the fans are going to have to let their voices be

heard about these issues. i really think we have much more to be concerned about than what a group of athletes are pissed about.

 

Thanks Jax :)

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Hi Jax :)

I agree.

 

Although i support system" rel="">support anyones right to peaceful gathering to protest, it seems to me during a game is not the proper venue as I have stated in another thread.

The fans are there and are paying these athletes salaries to see a game, not watch them take a knee during the anthem or protest during a game. On their OWN time,

they should gather and make their case public, outside of the arena. They are on their employer dime, and what they are doing is wrong just with that

in my opinion. If it were my team that I owned, I would have made it clear that is not going to happen, but I would have also told them I support system" rel="">support their

protest on their own time, once I knew what it was AND if it was respectable and a good cause, not just political whining.

 

Some say it is because of "police brutality". Ok, fine, but why during the anthem? Just my thoughts, but the fans are going to have to let their voices be

heard about these issues. i really think we have much more to be concerned about than what a group of athletes are pissed about.

 

Thanks Jax :)

Thanks for the follow-up, Jim!  Well said and full of common sense clarity!  :twothumbs:

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Agreed : But it'll be interesting to hear on the news just how many people viewed the NFL games next week and what all the advertisers will have to say about it  JMHO +1

 

I don't think that I will ever be able to accept what the Lame Lying Main Stream Media will ever say again about ratings. They are so full of BS I can't even watch them anymore.

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'I was upset at first. Then I thought about the first amendment': readers on NFL protests

 

More than 200 kneeled, sat or prayed before their games on Sunday after Trump said those who don’t stand for the anthem should be fired. Here’s what you said

 

 

Rachel Obordo and Guardian readers

Friday 29 September 2017 16.35 BST

 

 

 

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Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick kneel during the national anthem before a game against the Los Angeles Rams in Santa Clara, California, September 2016.
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