Trump ends 'Dreamers' program, leaving fate of 800,000 uncertain

[Muleslayer]

2 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

You should be very afraid if "we" "trumpsters" as you call us do lose our country. You will be collected up and imprisoned in camps or worse yet forced to work for nothing to pay for the regime that will follow. I won't worry though me and mine will have died defending the USA to protect those rights of everyone. 

Semper fi!

[nstoolman1]

Muleslayer, I won't take credit for a military service but I do have a weakness for the Marines so thanks and back at you. 

[tjokie]

11 hours ago, SnowGlobe7 said:

 

I want to hug you

[Theseus]

On 9/7/2017 at 1:59 PM, bostonangler said:

 

I don't mind him enforcing laws, I just don't like him breaking them... It's funny how folks on the right call everyone whiners and snowflakes, but it seems they are the ones who whine the most and melt like snowflakes with worry of losing their county... Give it up, we don't live in the 19th century anymore... Remember those who said the car was a passing fade? Those who said they would never pay to watch television? The world keeps moving, it's the whiners and complainers who get left behind... So go get on your horse and ride over to Radio Shack and get a government box for your TV and keep whining how the world is a strange new place...

 

B/A

It's the whiners and complainers that get left behind... sorry you got left behind because all you do is whine and complain about Trump. It's a new world get used to it or get off the train.

 

Radio Shack still exists? 

 

Whiners and complainers...like the NFL stars (if you want to call them that), Kap who others demand to be put on a roster but yet he whines and complains during the Anthem, when looking at his stats shows he is a mediocre player at best. Kap couldn't do anything for the 49'ers (some of the worst plays in 49ers history where when Kap was at the helm) . Where was all the support for Tebow who was a much better QB stat wise than Kap. Ah so the complainer, Kap, got left behind as he is yet to grace an NFL roster. Or the player who came out and never to be seen or heard from again on the NFL roster. See how that works. The NFL is a business and businesses and franchises have brands, when the brand is damaged then the business must reformulate and remove that which is damaging the brand. Kap was damaging the brand and all players who kneel are damaging the franchise brand. NFL had a dismal opener since 2009 and most have claimed to stop watching/supporting it because the denigration of America by players who get paid more than the people they are denigrating. The NFL is going to denigrate itself out of relevance in America, which is what the left wants anyways, because its players are damaging the brand which used to be very patriotic and that has since slipped. One thing that will always remain true of this country, you mess with the patriotism of Americans and you will slowly removed from the limelight and wonder what happened. Kap will not be heard from again in five years. It won't be because of football if he does get mentioned. More like he will be arrested for drugs or robbed a liquor store like other NFL washouts have made the news for. Yeah the country keeps moving...in the wrong direction. 

[Karsten]

23 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

You should be very afraid if "we" "trumpsters" as you call us do lose our country. You will be collected up and imprisoned in camps or worse yet forced to work for nothing to pay for the regime that will follow. I won't worry though me and mine will have died defending the USA to protect those rights of everyone. 

 

I am with you Stoolman....I will go out in a pile of Brass and 12 gauge shells and be proud that I died on my feet rather than begging for Mercy from the Intolerant Left Loons......But I have a feeling that if it every does come to that the battle country wide will be over in about 30 minutes......They discount the fact that close to 1 Million Americans own most of the guns, ammo, train regularly and know how to use them.

 

Just sayin....Snowflakes, Bring it and be sure it is Your Best Game as it could very well end up your last!!!!

 

Karsten

[patrickgold]

On ‎9‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 2:34 AM, Theseus said:

It's the whiners and complainers that get left behind... sorry you got left behind because all you do is whine and complain about Trump. It's a new world get used to it or get off the train.

 

Radio Shack still exists? 

 

Whiners and complainers...like the NFL stars (if you want to call them that), Kap who others demand to be put on a roster but yet he whines and complains during the Anthem, when looking at his stats shows he is a mediocre player at best. Kap couldn't do anything for the 49'ers (some of the worst plays in 49ers history where when Kap was at the helm) . Where was all the support system" rel="">support for Tebow who was a much better QB stat wise than Kap. Ah so the complainer, Kap, got left behind as he is yet to grace an NFL roster. Or the player who came out and never to be seen or heard from again on the NFL roster. See how that works. The NFL is a business and businesses and franchises have brands, when the brand is damaged then the business must reformulate and remove that which is damaging the brand. Kap was damaging the brand and all players who kneel are damaging the franchise brand. NFL had a dismal opener since 2009 and most have claimed to stop watching/supporting it because the denigration of America by players who get paid more than the people they are denigrating. The NFL is going to denigrate itself out of relevance in America, which is what the left wants anyways, because its players are damaging the brand which used to be very patriotic and that has since slipped. One thing that will always remain true of this country, you mess with the patriotism of Americans and you will slowly removed from the limelight and wonder what happened. Kap will not be heard from again in five years. It won't be because of football if he does get mentioned. More like he will be arrested for drugs or robbed a liquor store like other NFL washouts have made the news for. Yeah the country keeps moving...in the wrong direction. 

Agreed!!!  You might as well add all the actors, and actresses that are doing the same thing, they have no clue of what patriotism stands for in America. Their mentality is so caught up in the world of acting, what comes out their mouths is not sincere, can't take them serious.  Time to stop making these celebrities rich.  No more supporting those who are against America's principles.  That goes for the politicians as well.  Tired of all the sick rhetoric that comes from foreigners,  all the negative that is spread about the America.   

[umbertino]

 

Pontiff says removing children from families ‘isn’t something that bears fruit’, referring to the 800,000 people affected by Trump’s decision to end the program

 

 

Associated Press

Monday 11 September 2017 16.45 BST

 

 

 

Pope Francis talks to journalists during a press conference he held onboard of his flight to Rome at the end of a five-day visit to Colombia on 11 September 2017.

Photograph: Andrew Medichini / POOL/EPA

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/11/pope-francis-urges-trump-to-rethink-ending-daca-program

[patrickgold]

Once again a destorted version from the guardian. 

[nstoolman1]

3 hours ago, umbertino said:

Pontiff says removing children from families ‘isn’t something that bears fruit’, referring to the 800,000 people affected by Trump’s decision to end the program

 

 

Then send them all back.  Let them start the legal process. 

Problem solved. 

[pokerplayer]

2 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

 

Then send them all back.  Let them start the legal process. 

Problem solved. 

 

 

Agree 110% nstoolman1, and they better speak English for people to at least understand them

 

Assimilate Don't Procreate and live on the dole.

 

  pp

[md11fr8dawg]

So the Pontiff does not have a problem with breaking the law. I wonder if he picks and chooses which of God's laws he follows!!!!

[Muleslayer]

On 9/11/2017 at 8:56 PM, md11fr8dawg said:

So the Pontiff does not have a problem with breaking the law. I wonder if he picks and chooses which of God's laws he follows!!!!

Personally I believe he stated a moral point. It is true that removing children from families is rather heinous.

they are here. Create them a path to citizenship. Notice I said CREATE not give.

also Obama created the situation with his EO.

i feel that he should be held responsible for this illegal act.

Financially and criminally.

 

case in point, if I chose to not pay my taxes I will be ruined by the federal government.

perhaps even jail time. Obama? He walks.

where is that white privilege for me?

ok mostly wheto!

lota red man in my back ground!

 

[Muleslayer]

Perhaps I should rephrase.

those that are here should have a path to citizenship created for them.

but Trump did the right thing ending Obama's illegal EO.

[divemaster5734]

On 9/7/2017 at 5:55 AM, patrickgold said:

Is that all you got   ...deflect and whine, come on B/A you know your feeling the crunch.  Why can't you liberals just let President Trump enforce the laws.  It's bad enough O simply broke the law when he created this mess.  I don't understand or comprehend the ignorance of why liberals are being blinded about facts.  It all boils down to a vote.  Lose the dreamers, they lose the vote. 

 

On 9/5/2017 at 4:13 PM, Karsten said:

All of these So Called "Dreamers" have had years to take the steps to work through the legal process

Karsten

For every "dreamer" there are dozens of others who did take the time and energy to become a legal resident.

Those stories are ignored by the media as it doesn't fit their narrative.

 I have a few friends who did it, I know that there have to be millions of others. 

On 9/5/2017 at 10:42 PM, Theseus said:

Trump ended DACA true but that is only part of the story.

As usual, you bring an informed perspective.

Yea, Trump was forced into a "deal" that hurt, but as mentioned in another thread, I think he is building a power base in order to get his tax reform through.

If you think about it, the arcane tax laws, along with the Gestapo tactics used by the IRS, are the single biggest oppressive force against main street America.

If Trump can eliminate the level 52 babble, and install a VAT, or some other flat rate, that alone with release millions from their check to check poverty level existence.

I'm hoping he can reel in Sessions though, that guy is freaking off the hook with his forfeiture agenda.

 

On 9/7/2017 at 4:12 AM, tjokie said:

I've immigrated to another country before.  I speak from experience.

 

That took courage, and lots of heart.

Thank you for sharing.

 

On 9/8/2017 at 3:41 PM, nstoolman1 said:

You should be very afraid if "we" "trumpsters" as you call us do lose our country. You will be collected up and imprisoned in camps or worse yet forced to work for nothing to pay for the regime that will follow. I won't worry though me and mine will have died defending the USA to protect those rights of everyone. 

 

Love you guy's responses.

It's racing season, so I don't have much spare time to log on here.

The real issue for the libtards is they thought they were so close to obtaining complete power over the rest of us mere mortals they are still in shock and disbelief their  game was exposed for the fallacy it is.

The whole PC culture was never about  "being right", the very essence of intentional prejudice against any singular race in the name of "justice" is ludicrous.

It is and was always all about power.

They believed they would soon have the power to destroy anyone with nothing more than a thought, they eagerly planned on demonstrating their PC prowess by silencing people on a whim.

Socialism is not about equality, it is about the privileged "administrators", whom are, simply by holding whatever office they earned by demonstrating their party loyalty, somehow enlightened elitist's, not just deserving of a "few" luxuries, but entitled to a better lifestyle for sacrificing themselves, and in their benevolence enduring the dreaded task of  guiding and giving to the poor unwashed masses.

Have fun with your parley, just understand, they went from a soon t be overlord to washed out has-been overnight,  so don't expect the "liberals"  to start accepting logic or reason anytime soon.

 

[patrickgold]

8 hours ago, Muleslayer said:

Personally I believe he stated a moral point. It is true that removing children from families is rather heinous.

they are here. Create them a path to citizenship. Notice I said CREATE not give.

also Obama created the situation with his EO.

i feel that he should be held responsible for this illegal act.

Financially and criminally.

 

case in point, if I chose to not pay my taxes I will be ruined by the federal government.

perhaps even jail time. Obama? He walks.

where is that white privilege for me?

ok mostly wheto!

lota red man in my back ground!

 

Muleslayer, I agree with all that you stated. 

There is a path, nor one has to be created.  The legal system has always been set in place for immigrants. I think the word needs to get out with clarity on what President Trumps is doing with the immigrants that are already here.    Its  when we have leaders who want to twist and break our laws with the help of the media... leaving out the most important information... that created the havoc we have today for the immigrants.  The immigrants have always had the power to become citizens but have been suppressed by the neglected, corrupted media's journalism, their lack of  knowledge regarding our laws causes fear, so they come in illegally, and when caught, America is the bad guy. 

Our leaders have let these immigrants down. But if we the people allow them to continue to twist the laws of the United States, of the United State Constitution we will always have havoc.   

[patrickgold]

8 hours ago, Muleslayer said:

Personally I believe he stated a moral point. It is true that removing children from families is rather heinous.

they are here.

 

Again I agree with you.  The Pope's statement is true, as a "moral point" but the Pope spoke out to soon.  He did a Pelosi, (not exact quote)  " let's pass it, then read it"  If he had read it, then maybe he could of worded his statement in a fashion of love, moral point and Mr. President  is doing a fine job in trying to make right for these immigrants.  He is a human being and he's will and is going make mistakes,  I believe he didn't pray on this comment.  Notice that the media jumped right in to pervert his comment.  Many here have stated that the media is our enemy, the media has an evil plan, I agree,  if we continue to read, listen to their lies, twisting malice stories, at one point we begin to believe them.  Hence the case of the majority of the liberals.   My view of the Pope, he's better at spreading the teachings of Christ then at his political view. 

 

[md11fr8dawg]

Yes ne should stay out of politics. I have heard nothing from him on the evil of Planned Parenthood, the situation on North Korea or the suffering in Venzuela. The silence is deafening.

[Muleslayer]

12 hours ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Yes ne should stay out of politics. I have heard nothing from him on the evil of Planned Parenthood, the situation on North Korea or the suffering in Venzuela. The silence is deafening.

Perhaps he should.

everyone is a critic. Including me.

to quote a good friend of mine, I will pray for you.