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26 hours, 29 Trumpian false or misleading claims

 
By Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee By Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee
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President Trump made 29 claims that were false, misleading or flip-flops between his two rallies. President Trump made 29 claims that were false, misleading or flip-flops between his two rallies. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)
President Trump made 29 claims that were false, misleading or flip-flops between his two rallies. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)

In a period of less than 26 hours — from 6:31 p.m. on July 24 to 8:09 p.m. on July 25 — President Trump made two fired-up speeches, held a news conference and tweeted with abandon, leaving a trail of misinformation in his wake. Here’s a roundup of his suspect claims.

National Scout Jamboree at Glen Jean, W.Va., 6:31 p.m. EST, July 24, 2017

 

“19th Boy Scout Jamboree, wow, and to address such a tremendous group. Boy, you have a lot of people here. The press will say it’s about 200 people. It looks like about 45,000 people. You set a record today. You set a record. That’s a great honor, believe me.”

The figure of 45,000 is not official but if so, that would not be a record. The most-attended single-site jamboree was held in 1964, in Valley Forge, Pa., with 50,960 attendees. In 1973, the jamboree was held in two sites, in Idaho and Pennsylvania, for a total of 73,610 attendees. (Those are raw numbers. In terms of percentage of Boy Scouts attending, 2010 holds the record.) At last count, 26,000 Scouts were expected at the 2017 event, suggesting it would fall well short of the record.

“Our stock market has picked up — since the election November 8th. Do we remember that date? Was that a beautiful date? What a date.”

Trump equates the rise of the stock market since the election as a demonstration of a good economy. But the stock market had already been rising for years before he was elected — and he called it “a big, fat, ugly bubble.”

“And you know we have a tremendous disadvantage in the Electoral College — popular vote is much easier.”

According to a tally by John Pitney of Claremont McKenna College, every Republican president since Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876 won a larger share of the electoral college votes than Trump, with the exception of George W. Bush (twice) and Nixon in 1968.

“We had the best jobs report in 16 years. The stock market on a daily basis is hitting an all-time high.”

Trump appears to referring to the fact that the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent in June, which is a 16-year low. (This was a slight increase from 4.3 percent in May.) The unemployment rate was 4.8 percent in January, when Trump took office — and when he campaigned for president he routinely said the unemployment numbers were phony and were actually as high as 42 percent. (The actual jobs report was nothing special, with fewer jobs created than in June 2016.) As we noted, during the campaign Trump often said the stock market was in “a big, fat, ugly bubble.” Now he celebrates its continued rise.

“And very soon, Rick, we will be an energy exporter. Isn’t that nice — an energy exporter? In other words, we’ll be selling our energy instead of buying it from everybody all over the globe.”

The United States is already exporting energy, and has exported more than it has imported since 2015. Led by the hydraulic fracturing techniques, the United States and the rest of the world have been in the midst of an energy revolution that began nearly 15 years ago. Saudi Arabia leads the world with one-fifth of the world’s oil reserves.

Twitter, through the night and into morning

 

 

 

The Washington Post is owned by Jeffrey P. Bezos, the founder of Amazon. Amazon does not own The Post, but in any case the president’s claims about “no-tax” Amazon are out of date. Amazon used to lobby to keep Internet sales free from state taxes, but no more. As of March, Amazon is collecting sales tax on purchases in every state that has one.

 

Trump is referring to efforts by a Ukrainian-American operative to expose former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s ties to the Russian government. But the comparison to the Russian probe is overblown and facile, making a similar criminal probe problematic.

One fundamental difference is that Ukraine is considered a U.S. ally, and Russia is considered an adversary. Moreover, U.S. intelligence officials found a top-down effort, initiated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, to illegally hack and release information in a deliberate attempt to meddle in the U.S. election and undermine the democratic system. There is no such evidence of a top-down effort in the Ukrainian case.

Instead, a Ukrainian American Democratic operative named Alexandra Chalupa began looking into Manafort’s ties to Viktor Yanukovych, a former pro-Russia president of Ukraine, as a part of her volunteer work in 2014. She apparently received some guidance from the Ukrainian Embassy in order to locate public documents. That’s entirely different from state-sponsored illegal hacking. There’s also no evidence that the DNC used information gathered by Chalupa or that the Ukrainians coordinated opposition research with the DNC.

 

Trump conflates a number of issues here in his continuing effort to force his attorney general from office because of his anger that Sessions followed Justice Department guidance and recused himself from the Russia probe.

The Clinton email issue was exhaustively investigated by the FBI, with the conclusion a year ago that she was “extremely careless” in her handling of classified information but did not intend to violate any laws. “In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts,” FBI Director James B. Comey said in July 2016.

There is no evidence that Clinton was involved in the question of whether the Democratic National Committee’s servers should be turned over to the FBI as part of the investigation into Russian-linked hacking after the DNC was hacked. The FBI and the Democratic National Committee disagree on whether the FBI requested access to the DNC’s servers. Comey testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee that the bureau made “multiple requests at different levels” to access the DNC’s servers, but the DNC said the FBI never requested access.

The DNC allowed a private company, CrowdStrike, to review its database and share findings with the FBI. “We got the forensics from the pros that they hired which — again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves, but this my folks tell me was an appropriate substitute,” Comey said.

It’s worth noting here that the DNC was the victim in this instance, and yet Trump without evidence seems to be accusing it of a crime. Moreover, it was Trump himself who said after the election that it would be not be appropriate to investigate Clinton any further, so Sessions presumably was following his guidance.

 

Here, Trump reprises a Four-Pinocchio claim from the presidential campaign.

Andrew McCabe, who is now the acting FBI director, became part of the investigation of Hillarious Clinton’s emails long after his wife, Jill McCabe, unsuccessfully ran for a Virginia Senate seat. The political action committee of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) gave $452,500 to McCabe, and the state Democratic Party gave her campaign an additional $207,788. That was about one-third of the $1.8 million budget for her campaign.

McAuliffe is close to Clinton, but there is no evidence she knew of the contributions. Moreover, it stretches the imagination that McAuliffe would know that the husband of someone he was supporting in a Virginia legislative race was going to be promoted months later to a position of authority in the email case.

Why is McCabe acting FBI director? Because Trump fired Comey.

 

Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, gave a lengthy statement explaining his side of the story and denying any collusion. That is not Kushner “proving he did not collude with the Russians”; the special counsel’s investigation is still under way.

As a part of his statement, Kushner said: “I did not collude, nor know of anyone else in the campaign who colluded, with any foreign government. I had no improper contacts. I have not relied on Russian funds to finance my business activities in the private sector. I have tried to be fully transparent with regard to the filing of my SF-86 form, above and beyond what is required.”

Trump news conference, 3:30 p.m., July 25, 2017

 

“Lebanon is on the front lines in the fight against ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah.”

Trump made this comment at a joint news conference with Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri. But Hariri is only in power because of a deal he struck with Michel Aoun, Hezbollah’s main Christian ally, to make Aoun president. Hezbollah, the militant group, dominates the Lebanese cabinet and is more powerful than the official Lebanese army, recently launching an operation against a militant group in the eastern town of Arsal. So it’s a bit odd for Trump to suggest the  Lebanese government is fighting Hezbollah.

“Obamacare is a disaster. It’s failing on every front. It’s too expensive. It gives horrible coverage.”

Trump continues with his overheated rhetoric on the Affordable Care Act, with as usual few specifics.
Credible estimates suggest the health-care law boosted the number of people with health insurance by 20 million. The Congressional Budget Office, in its reports on the GOP replacement bills, said that the individual market would be stable in most markets at least for the next 10 years under the Affordable Care Act.

As for Obamacare being too expensive, most people who participate in the exchanges receive tax subsidies that shield them from premium increases. The health-care costs have slowed since the passage of the ACA, though the jury is out that the law is mostly responsible. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimated that cumulative premium increases were 63 percent for 2001-2006, 31 percent for 2006-2011 and 20 percent for 2011-2016.

Trump rally in Youngstown, Ohio, 7:14 p.m., July 25, 2017

“Don’t even think about it, we will build that wall.”

Congress refused to provide funding for the wall in the 2017 budget and prospects for funds being approved in the 2018 budget are dim because of continued congressional opposition. Trump has all but dropped mention of the notion of Mexico paying for the cost of the wall, a key campaign promise.

“After years and years of sending our jobs and our wealth to other countries, we are finally standing up for our workers and our companies”

Of course, Trump himself has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his products and has acknowledged doing so. (During the campaign, we counted at least 12 countries that made Trump products.)

Even during Trump’s “Made in America” week, when he urged manufacturers and consumers to “buy American, hire American,” his family’s company continued to rely on foreign workers.  Another of Trump’s golf courses recently filed a request to hire 10 foreign workers to be waiters. Further, the fashion line of Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and adviser to the president, is out of step with the principles championed by her father.

“Unemployment last month hit a 16-year low.”

Trump once again is referring to the fact that the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent in June, which is a 16-year low. (This was a slight increase from 4.3 percent in May.) The unemployment rate was 4.8 percent in January, when Trump took office — and when he campaigned for president he routinely said the unemployment numbers were phony and were actually as high as 42 percent.

“Since my election, we’ve added much more than 1 million jobs. Think of that.”

It’s unclear why Trump would give himself credit for jobs created in the last three months of President Barack Obama’s term. In the five months since Trump took office, 863,000 jobs have been created — fewer than the last five months of Obama’s second term. Indeed, Trump is falling behind on his promise to create 10 million jobs in his first term.

“We’ve achieved an historic increase in defense spending.”

Trump’s proposed defense increase is relatively modest — and not yet been approved by Congress.

“Boy, have we put those coal miners and coal back on the map.”

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 800 jobs have been created in the coal industry since Trump became president — an increase of less than 2 percent. Administration officials often misleadingly refer to “mining” jobs, which mostly consist of jobs in the oil sector, which has rebounded from a price slump that has little to do with administration policies.

“We can’t believe you gave [Iran] between $100 and $150 billion when they were ready to fail.”

In knocking the international agreement with Iran to freeze its nuclear ambitions, Trump makes it sound like the Obama administration provided the Islamic republic with U.S. taxpayer money. Because of international sanctions over its nuclear program, Iran had billions of dollars in assets that were frozen in foreign banks around the globe. With sanctions lifted, in theory those funds would be unlocked.

Trump uses too high an estimate of the funds made available to Iran. The Treasury Department has estimated that once Iran fulfills other obligations, it would have about $55 billion left. (Much of the other money was obligated to illiquid projects in China.) For its part, the Central Bank of Iran said the number was actually $32 billion, not $55 billion.

“[Harley Davidson says] when we sell a motorcycle in certain countries we have as much as 100 percent tax to pay.”

Trump probably is referring to the tariff that Harley-Davidson faces in India, which imposes a 100 percent import tariff on motorcycles. But the company has been able to get around the tariff by assembling its bikes in India. In March 2017, when Trump introduced this talking point, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported: “In India, where big touring motorcycles and cars are saddled with a 100% import tariff, Harley’s sales have grown by a brisk 30% in the past two years. That’s largely because the company has been able to get around the tariff by assembling bikes In India, something it’s done in that country since 2011.”

“We have cut illegal immigration on our southern border by record numbers — 78 percent.”

Trump’s anti-illegal immigration rhetoric has contributed to lower border crossings along the Southwestern border, experts say. Despite seasonal trends, apprehensions at the U.S.-Mexico border declined steadily since October 2016. In April 2017, apprehensions reached their lowest point since at least 2002. But since then, apprehensions are climbing again, more in line with seasonal trends.

The figure Trump uses is exaggerated; he is comparing data from November or December 2016 (before he was inaugurated) compared to the lowest point in April 2017. There was just an 8.1 percent decline from February 2017 (the first full month of data from his presidency) through June 2017 (the latest data available).

“We are throwing MS-13 the hell out of here so fast … We are actually liberating towns and cities.”

This is yet another exaggeration. Earlier this year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted the largest gang surge to date. While about 1,000 gang members or affiliates were arrested, they were not yet deported out of the country as of June 2017. Moreover, just 104 were associated with MS-13.

Still, there has been an increase in the rate of gang deportations in general to El Salvador (where MS-13 gang’s roots are) and Salvadoran officials are preparing for more.

“This month in Chicago there have been more than two homicide victims per day.”

The statistic is accurate, according to a database of Chicago-area homicides by the Chicago Tribune. But Trump always uses the outlier city of Chicago in order to paint a picture of widespread increase in violent crimes across the country. Homicides in Chicago are a concern, but it must be noted that overall, violent crime is on a decades-long decline, since the height of the crack cocaine epidemic in the early 1990s. An uptick in crime over a two- or three-year period does not necessarily indicate a new crime wave.

“In West Virginia, recent premiums have gone up 169 percent since Obamacare went into effect. In Alaska, over 200 percent.”

This is one of Trump’s favorite talking points on Obamacare, yet it’s still misleading. For 2017, the average increase in premiums before subsidies was 25 percent, so he is cherry-picking the highest end of premium increases.

Moreover, Trump using data from the Department of Health and Human Services that do not take into account the effect of subsidies, which shield 84 percent of people in the exchanges from such extreme premium hikes. On average, eight out of 10 marketplace enrollees receive government premium subsidies, and they are protected from a premium increase (and may even see a decrease) if they stay with a low-cost plan.

“We want millions of Americans lifted from welfare to work and from dependence to independence.”

“Welfare” is a broad term and can apply to people who are working but receiving government assistance. If someone is receiving means-tested assistance, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are not working. In fact, eligibility for benefits often is contingent on searching for a job — in other words, working toward the “independence” that Trump mentions.

“Actually if I get what I want it will be the single biggest tax cut in American history.”

The Trump administration has released no plan beyond a single sheet of paper. Even if it became a reality (there are reports that the tax plan is being scaled back), it still would be smaller than tax cuts passed by Harry Truman and Ronald Reagan.

“We have the highest taxes in the world.”

Trump almost never gets this correct. The Pew Research Center, using 2014 data, found that the tax bill for Americans, under various scenarios, is below average for developed countries.

In 2014, according to comparative tables of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), revenue as a percentage of the gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy — was 26 percent for the United States.

Out of 34 countries, that put the United States in the bottom third — and well below the OECD average of 34.4 percent.

 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Texstorm said:

And your point is ? BA you are far worse than Umbertino ! And about un-American as they come.....sad that you can't quit crying. Have a great day !

 

Facts are facts... This guy needs to get real... As for crying that's outrageous! You guys still cry about Obama and Clinton, that's a joke...

Being un-American is blindly excepting your man's lies... Real Americans live by the creed, "Don't Tread On Me". Sadly Trump supporters are getting trampled by lies. 

 

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2 minutes ago, yota691 said:

Yep BA never ever thought of giving Trump a chance, BA sit on the fence, says I'm neither party, which is a excuse to throw out his rhetoric and un-American tacit.

 

That's not true. I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton... I voted my conscience not along party lines. You guys have been tricked by a terrific conman. Let's be honest he is an elitist.

 

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

 

If being independent was your point, glad I could help out. When did being independent become a bad thing? We started with a "Declaration of Independence".

 

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So how long have you had this newfound self-righteousness?  Did you vote independent in the previous election?  You recently stated you can’t stand liars, yet I am willing to bet you were able to overlook the “Keep your doctor” lie of the century and pull the leaver for The One.

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6 minutes ago, RV ME said:

 

So how long have you had this newfound self-righteousness?  Did you vote independent in the previous election?  You recently stated you can’t stand liars, yet I am willing to bet you were able to overlook the “Keep your doctor” lie of the century and pull the leaver for The One.

 

 

No way Donald allows The One to be the "lie of the century" record holder....his narcissism won't allow it.  :lol:

 

GO RV, then BV

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3 hours ago, RV ME said:

 

So how long have you had this newfound self-righteousness?  Did you vote independent in the previous election?  You recently stated you can’t stand liars, yet I am willing to bet you were able to overlook the “Keep your doctor” lie of the century and pull the leaver for The One.

 

 

Yup independent... I voted "W" once. I voted for Obama. I voted for our Republican governor. I have voted for Tea Party candidates. I have voted for Libertarians.... It is great to vote for the person you like instead of voting against the person you don't like... It is very liberating you should try it sometime.

 

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yup independent... I voted "W" once. I voted for Obama. I voted for our Republican governor. I have voted for Tea Party candidates. I have voted for Libertarians.... It is great to vote for the person you like instead of voting against the person you don't like... It is very liberating you should try it sometime.

 

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I think you missed my point.  I am trying to understand how you rationalize your professed hatred for liars with your joy in voting for The One.  After all, it was a well established fact that “keep your doctor” was a 100% lie by his re-election campaign, but you were able to put that aside and vote for a known and undisputed liar.

On second thought, I am not trying to understand your rationalization, I am trying to point out your blatant hypocrisy.

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1 minute ago, RV ME said:

 

I think you missed my point.  I am trying to understand how you rationalize your professed hatred for liars with your joy in voting for The One.  After all, it was a well established fact that “keep your doctor” was a 100% lie by his re-election campaign, but you were able to put that aside and vote for a known and undisputed liar.

On second thought, I am not trying to understand your rationalization, I am trying to point out your blatant hypocrisy.

 

 

After "W" there could be no bigger liar... Or at least that was what I thought until recently... I'm sorry health care isn't working for you, but most (the majority) of people I know do not seem to be crying about their healthcare. The only people I can honestly say complain, are those who make a lot of money. Of course your state may be different from mine. My state has no income tax, low property tax, affordable healthcare, a budget surplus... Perhaps, you should ask your governor or state representative where all your tax dollars are going.

 

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5 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

After "W" there could be no bigger liar... Or at least that was what I thought until recently... I'm sorry health care isn't working for you, but most (the majority) of people I know do not seem to be crying about their healthcare. The only people I can honestly say complain, are those who make a lot of money. Of course your state may be different from mine. My state has no income tax, low property tax, affordable healthcare, a budget surplus... Perhaps, you should ask your governor or state representative where all your tax dollars are going.

 

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You couldn't be further from the truth!  I've been biting my tongue concerning your illogical, misinformed, misunderstood perspective on Freedom and the Constitution.  Your kumbaya outlook PUNISHES those INDIVIDUAL people... myself included, as I opened up to YOU about!  It doesn't even matter what most (majority, as your anecdotal viewpoint claims) think!  They're simply apathetic, and wrong!  Isn't ONE person being harmed, too many?!!!!!  You're an unbelievably dangerous thinker! "Independent" or not... there's NO difference between a Kumbaya (Collective thinking) Independent... a Kumbaya Democrat... a Kumbaya Republican... a Kumbaya Libertarian... or a Kumbaya Socialist (redundant, I know!)...  In ALL of those, you put the Collective ahead of the Individual.  The Constitution defaults to the Individual... PERIOD!  THAT is your DISHONEST flaw... and your own incessant ignorance.  Stop spewing BS... LEARN SOMETHING already!  I have just taught you!

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7 minutes ago, Jaxinjersey said:

You couldn't be further from the truth!  I've been biting my tongue concerning your illogical, misinformed, misunderstood perspective on Freedom and the Constitution.  Your kumbaya outlook PUNISHES those INDIVIDUAL people... myself included, as I opened up to YOU about!  It doesn't even matter what most (majority, as your anecdotal viewpoint claims) think!  They're simply apathetic, and wrong!  Isn't ONE person being harmed, too many?!!!!!  You're an unbelievably dangerous thinker! "Independent" or not... there's NO difference between a Kumbaya (Collective thinking) Independent... a Kumbaya Democrat... a Kumbaya Republican... a Kumbaya Libertarian... or a Kumbaya Socialist (redundant, I know!)...  In ALL of those, you put the Collective ahead of the Individual.  The Constitution defaults to the Individual... PERIOD!  THAT is your DISHONEST flaw... and your own incessant ignorance.  Stop spewing BS... LEARN SOMETHING already!  I have just taught you!

 

Well then, you certainly can't support our current administration with you stated point of view, so there is one thing we can agree on... And if you do live in New Jersey, I feel bad for you, did you vote for that fat criminal you have in office, perhaps life will get better when that loser is gone.

 

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Well then, you certainly can't support system">support our current administration with you stated point of view, so there is one thing we can agree on...

 

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What a piss poor response... I should have known, from your previous dismissive responses to my personal misfortune.  Where's that pseudo-Constitutional knowledge... that kumbaya empathy?  Oh, that's right... it's only for the Collective!  I forgot... people like me are simply sacrificial citizens in your world.  I deserve MUCH better.  When you want to give it... I'm all ears... and you might learn something from your own analytical insight.

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5 hours ago, RV ME said:

 

So how long have you had this newfound self-righteousness?  Did you vote independent in the previous election?  You recently stated you can’t stand liars, yet I am willing to bet you were able to overlook the “Keep your doctor” lie of the century and pull the leaver for The One.

 

Almighty Yota,  don't forget the "We have to pass the bill in order to find out what's in the bill. Or do not forget that Trump has signed 43 Executive orders to Obama's 31, in their 1st 6 months. Including a E.O. that removed Obama's land grab on fed lands and continental shelf, breaking the back of OPEC from ever being able to dictate oil prices to the US and the free world. Trump stating that if countries do not follow agreements that are fair, then we won't either. Saving us 4 trillion dollars US by leaving the globalist success for the EU, The Paris Climate Accord. Trump dropping the Illegal Immigrant Numbers by 70%. Or Trump hiring 10,000 new Boarder Patrol, Ice Agents and Immigration Judges. Trump is building the wall; the bidding process for the Southern Border Wall will end in Sept/Oct. Afterwards it will be started. Trump 2 for 1 repeal of Obama's burdensome regulations saving the US citizens 80 billion dollars. Executive orders to protect our Policemen and Police women. Revitalizing the US Coal business. Un-did all of Obama's E.O. that were deemed illegal. Plans to plug the very causes that have encouraged 75,000 companies from leaving the US. Trump has done more in his first 6 months to fulfill his campaign promises than Obama and G.W. did in their first 6 months. 

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6 minutes ago, Jaxinjersey said:

What a piss poor response... I should have known, from your previous dismissive responses to my personal misfortune.  Where's that pseudo-Constitutional knowledge... that kumbaya empathy?  Oh, that's right... it's only for the Collective!  I forgot... people like me are simply sacrificial citizens in your world.  I deserve MUCH better.  When you want to give it... I'm all ears... and you might learn something from your own analytical insight.

 

Jax I do feel bad that you are suffering, but I think you are misinformed. Insurance companies set the prices, not The Affordable Care Act, the government or the exchanges. This is why rates vary dramatically from state to state. In your state, you might want to contact your insurance commissioner.

 

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/aca-doesnt-set-prices-on-exchanges/

 

Rick Santorum wrongly claimed health plans on the health care exchanges are offering more limited networks of doctors and hospitals “because the Obama bill set prices at such levels” that some doctors and hospitals “do not participate in these programs.” The Affordable Care Act does not set prices for medical care.

The private insurance companies participating in the exchanges set prices, which doctors and hospitals can balk at. The insurance companies set those prices in order to be able to offer more affordable plans in a competitive marketplace.

Santorum made the claim on CNN’s “State of the Union” during a spirited back-and-forth with Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who once chaired the Democratic National Committee, over the merits of the Affordable Care Act.

Santorum, Dec. 1: And here’s the thing that, again, no one’s talking about. The networks, in other words the doctors and hospitals that are in these exchange products, are dramatically smaller.

In other words, yes, you’ll be able to get your preventive care from your doctor, but if you want to go to the children’s hospital, sorry, you can’t get that kind of specialized care from specialized doctors. Why? Because the Obama bill set prices at such levels that doctors and hospitals, particularly the ones that are in high demand, do not participate in these programs. So you’re going to see the end result be higher costs, less care, and then as a result, because they’re narrow networks, longer waits and longer lines. This is just beginning, the disaster of Obamacare.

No statistics are publicly available to substantiate whether the plans on the exchange are offering more limited networks, but there is anecdotal evidence that some insurance providers are offering plans that restrict choices to a relatively small network of doctors and hospitals. As Jonathan Chait of New York magazine wrote, “It’s making customers more sensitive to price. Of course, the flip side of this dynamic is that the ruthless price competition is encouraging insurers to squeeze doctors and hospitals. The most affordable plans on the exchanges often exclude more expensive providers.”

Contrary to Santorum’s assertion, however, the Affordable Care Act does not set the price levels for care. The law requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of premiums on health costs — as opposed to spending on administration, marketing, and profit. But the actual prices for medical services are set by insurance companies offering plans on the exchanges; and those same insurance companies decide what doctors and hospitals will be in the network. In Missouri, for example, Anthem BlueCross BlueShield excluded one of the state’s top hospital systems from policies it offered on the exchange.

“The ACA does not set prices related to commercial insurance, for either premiums or payment for care,” Deborah Chollet, a senior fellow at Mathematica Policy Research, a nonpartisan research firm, wrote to us in an email. “The narrow-network plans offered by some issuers are intended to (a) maximize negotiating leverage with providers by narrowing their PPOs; and (b) thereby reduce premiums to attract consumers. So, this is not regulation; it is competition at work.”

“That said,” Chollet added, “consumers need to be aware that if they want to go anywhere to buy care, they will have to pay more for it in premiums, out of pocket, or both.”

Karen Pollitz, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation, echoed those sentiments.

“The ACA does not set prices for health insurance policies,” Pollitz told us in an email. “Rather, market competition drives insurers to seek ways to hold down premiums. It’s too early to say how many plans offered on Exchanges have narrower networks (compared to, say, what insurers had offered previously on the nongroup market, or compared to what employer plans offer).”

In Maine, for example, Pollitz said, Anthem “has gotten lots of press for limiting the number of network hospitals; but a new co-op health plan offered in Maine offers a significantly broader network.”

Experts we spoke to agreed that while there are no hard statistics yet on the extent to which plans on the exchanges have limited the doctors and hospitals in their networks, Santorum is correct that there seems to be a trend among insurers participating in the exchanges of limiting those networks.

“It’s definitely the case (based on conversations with insurers and with providers) that insurers have decided to limit networks in some instances in order to price their health plans more competitively,” Pollitz said. “It’s also definitely the case that some providers have declined to participate in some of the new health insurance networks, holding out for higher fees from some insurers in return for a promise to participate exclusively in their networks. This is market competition at work — not entirely transparent, unfortunately, so it’s not yet clear what the impact will be on patients.”

Paul Ginsburg, president of the nonprofit Center for Studying Health System Change, said the exchanges and the structure of subsidies “have created a highly competitive environment for insurers.” In order to keep premiums low, many insurers have excluded some expensive providers from their networks.

“Children’s hospitals have a reputation for being particularly expensive,” Ginsburg wrote to us in an email.

The New York Times recently detailed how some in-demand hospitals are able to charge significantly higher prices for medical services than their competitors.

While Santorum’s comment makes it seem as though doctors and hospitals opted out, it is insurance companies that ultimately decide what doctors and hospitals will be in their network.

“The only role that doctors and hospitals play is deciding whether to offer lower rates to get into these limited networks,” Ginsburg said.

And while the process may lead to fewer choices, it’s not all bad for consumers, Ginsburg said. Some hospitals have discounted their rates in order to be included in networks.

“Competitive pressure is leading to lower prices, which are pursued through limiting the network,” Ginsburg said.

And Larry Levitt, senior vice president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, said: “I do believe there are stronger competitive forces operating on insurers in the individual market, and that is helping to keep premiums down.”

Limiting networks is nothing new, a fact that was highlighted in a story in the New Republic.

“Virtually all insurance now sold includes a limited network of doctors and hospitals (i.e., PPOs, HMOs, POS, and EPOs), and that was true before the Affordable Care Act as well,” Levitt said.

The bottom line: It appears to be true that some plans sold on the exchanges will restrict access to hospitals and doctors, but contrary to Santorum’s claim, it’s not because the Affordable Care Act sets prices in a way that discourages doctors and hospitals from participating. The plans are being limited by insurance companies seeking to offer more competitively-priced plans.

— Robert Farley

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Jax I do feel bad that you are suffering, but I think you are misinformed. Insurance companies set the prices, not The Affordable Care Act, the government or the exchanges. This is why rates vary dramatically from state to state. In your state, you might want to contact your insurance commissioner.

 

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/aca-doesnt-set-prices-on-exchanges/

 

Rick Santorum wrongly claimed health plans on the health care exchanges are offering more limited networks of doctors and hospitals “because the Obama bill set prices at such levels” that some doctors and hospitals “do not participate in these programs.” The Affordable Care Act does not set prices for medical care.

The private insurance companies participating in the exchanges set prices, which doctors and hospitals can balk at. The insurance companies set those prices in order to be able to offer more affordable plans in a competitive marketplace.

Santorum made the claim on CNN’s “State of the Union” during a spirited back-and-forth with Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who once chaired the Democratic National Committee, over the merits of the Affordable Care Act.

Santorum, Dec. 1: And here’s the thing that, again, no one’s talking about. The networks, in other words the doctors and hospitals that are in these exchange products, are dramatically smaller.

In other words, yes, you’ll be able to get your preventive care from your doctor, but if you want to go to the children’s hospital, sorry, you can’t get that kind of specialized care from specialized doctors. Why? Because the Obama bill set prices at such levels that doctors and hospitals, particularly the ones that are in high demand, do not participate in these programs. So you’re going to see the end result be higher costs, less care, and then as a result, because they’re narrow networks, longer waits and longer lines. This is just beginning, the disaster of Obamacare.

No statistics are publicly available to substantiate whether the plans on the exchange are offering more limited networks, but there is anecdotal evidence that some insurance providers are offering plans that restrict choices to a relatively small network of doctors and hospitals. As Jonathan Chait of New York magazine wrote, “It’s making customers more sensitive to price. Of course, the flip side of this dynamic is that the ruthless price competition is encouraging insurers to squeeze doctors and hospitals. The most affordable plans on the exchanges often exclude more expensive providers.”

Contrary to Santorum’s assertion, however, the Affordable Care Act does not set the price levels for care. The law requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of premiums on health costs — as opposed to spending on administration, marketing, and profit. But the actual prices for medical services are set by insurance companies offering plans on the exchanges; and those same insurance companies decide what doctors and hospitals will be in the network. In Missouri, for example, Anthem BlueCross BlueShield excluded one of the state’s top hospital systems from policies it offered on the exchange.

“The ACA does not set prices related to commercial insurance, for either premiums or payment for care,” Deborah Chollet, a senior fellow at Mathematica Policy Research, a nonpartisan research firm, wrote to us in an email. “The narrow-network plans offered by some issuers are intended to (a) maximize negotiating leverage with providers by narrowing their PPOs; and (b) thereby reduce premiums to attract consumers. So, this is not regulation; it is competition at work.”

“That said,” Chollet added, “consumers need to be aware that if they want to go anywhere to buy care, they will have to pay more for it in premiums, out of pocket, or both.”

Karen Pollitz, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation, echoed those sentiments.

“The ACA does not set prices for health insurance policies,” Pollitz told us in an email. “Rather, market competition drives insurers to seek ways to hold down premiums. It’s too early to say how many plans offered on Exchanges have narrower networks (compared to, say, what insurers had offered previously on the nongroup market, or compared to what employer plans offer).”

In Maine, for example, Pollitz said, Anthem “has gotten lots of press for limiting the number of network hospitals; but a new co-op health plan offered in Maine offers a significantly broader network.”

Experts we spoke to agreed that while there are no hard statistics yet on the extent to which plans on the exchanges have limited the doctors and hospitals in their networks, Santorum is correct that there seems to be a trend among insurers participating in the exchanges of limiting those networks.

“It’s definitely the case (based on conversations with insurers and with providers) that insurers have decided to limit networks in some instances in order to price their health plans more competitively,” Pollitz said. “It’s also definitely the case that some providers have declined to participate in some of the new health insurance networks, holding out for higher fees from some insurers in return for a promise to participate exclusively in their networks. This is market competition at work — not entirely transparent, unfortunately, so it’s not yet clear what the impact will be on patients.”

Paul Ginsburg, president of the nonprofit Center for Studying Health System Change, said the exchanges and the structure of subsidies “have created a highly competitive environment for insurers.” In order to keep premiums low, many insurers have excluded some expensive providers from their networks.

“Children’s hospitals have a reputation for being particularly expensive,” Ginsburg wrote to us in an email.

The New York Times recently detailed how some in-demand hospitals are able to charge significantly higher prices for medical services than their competitors.

While Santorum’s comment makes it seem as though doctors and hospitals opted out, it is insurance companies that ultimately decide what doctors and hospitals will be in their network.

“The only role that doctors and hospitals play is deciding whether to offer lower rates to get into these limited networks,” Ginsburg said.

And while the process may lead to fewer choices, it’s not all bad for consumers, Ginsburg said. Some hospitals have discounted their rates in order to be included in networks.

“Competitive pressure is leading to lower prices, which are pursued through limiting the network,” Ginsburg said.

And Larry Levitt, senior vice president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, said: “I do believe there are stronger competitive forces operating on insurers in the individual market, and that is helping to keep premiums down.”

Limiting networks is nothing new, a fact that was highlighted in a story in the New Republic.

“Virtually all insurance now sold includes a limited network of doctors and hospitals (i.e., PPOs, HMOs, POS, and EPOs), and that was true before the Affordable Care Act as well,” Levitt said.

The bottom line: It appears to be true that some plans sold on the exchanges will restrict access to hospitals and doctors, but contrary to Santorum’s claim, it’s not because the Affordable Care Act sets prices in a way that discourages doctors and hospitals from participating. The plans are being limited by insurance companies seeking to offer more competitively-priced plans.

— Robert Farley

You're sorry?  And try to tell ME I'm mistaken?  YOU have provided absolutely NO personal evidence toward this... because you don't have any!  I AM THE RESIDENT EXPERT HERE on this... so don't blow smoke up my ass!  Sorry... NONE of this contentious information means crap!  The ACA is what CAUSED ALL of it... semi-accurate or not, this information is only relevant unto ITSELF... not the REAL WORLD!!!  The Gov't has no right to tell private insurance companies how to charge... yet that is exactly why prices, thresholds, etc... are what they are.  I HAD GREAT affordable insurance... that's all that matters in this discussion!  I'm not going to rehash all the particulars I have already shared with you... you'll just ignore it anyway, and give me your fake platitudes.  So, just stop with the cutting and pasting of this contentious crap!  How about YOUR OWN honest perspective... in your own words, addressing what I have presented over and over again... even in my last posts here!  If you seriously wanted to have a TRUER understanding of this, you could have easily addressed ALL I have previously shared with you.  Is that too much to ask for? Never mind... I know it is.  Good Day.

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You're sorry?  And try to tell ME I'm mistaken?  YOU have provided absolutely NO personal evidence toward this... because you don't have any!  I AM THE RESIDENT EXPERT HERE on this... so don't blow smoke up my ass!  Sorry... NONE of this contentious information means crap!  The ACA is what CAUSED ALL of it... semi-accurate or not, this information is only relevant unto ITSELF... not the REAL WORLD!!!  The Gov't has no right to tell private insurance companies how to charge... yet that is exactly why prices, thresholds, etc... are what they are.  I HAD GREAT affordable insurance... that's all that matters in this discussion!  I'm not going to rehash all the particulars I have already shared with you... you'll just ignore it anyway, and give me your fake platitudes.  So, just stop with the cutting and pasting of this contentious crap!  How about YOUR OWN honest perspective... in your own words, addressing what I have presented over and over again... even in my last posts here!  If you seriously wanted to have a TRUER understanding of this, you could have easily addressed ALL I have previously shared with you.  Is that too much to ask for? Never mind... I know it is.  Good Day.

 

Jax, I know you are a true conservative. Are you aware of The Freedom Caucus and what they would do to people who are sick with a pre-existing condition? This little tid-bit should be a bit frightening to anyone who may fall into the unwanted category of "pre-existing". Insurance companies will make it impossible for sick people to afford insurance if they get their way. Then all of us will be picking up the tab more than ever.

 

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/conservatives-demand-end-pre-existing-conditions-ban/

 

 

 

I guess I was wrong last night. The New York Times says President Trump has caved in to demands to repeal the minimum set of required benefits for health care insurance:

President Trump agreed to the demands of conservative House Republicans to remove federal requirements that health insurance plans provide a basic set of benefits like maternity care, emergency services, mental health and wellness visits as he struggles to round up enough votes to pass a broad health care overhaul.

But the Washington Post reports that this still wasn’t enough:

Conservative House Republicans rebuffed an offer by President Trump on Thursday to strip a key set of mandates from the nation’s current health-care law, raising doubts about whether House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) has the votes to pass the bill.

….Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), asked whether the White House had made its final negotiating offer, said that if that’s the case, “They’re not going to pass the bill.”…As of mid-afternoon Thursday, 37 House Republicans — mainly Freedom Caucus members — had announced their opposition to the bill, known as the American Health Care Act.

So what do conservatives want? Here’s the Post again:

Conservative lawmakers have asked to eliminate much of [Obamacare’s] Title I, which….bars companies from setting insurance rates based on a person’s sex, medical condition, genetic condition or other factors.

In other words, insurers could charge you more if you have a pre-existing condition. That would effectively kill off the Obamacare provision that requires insurers to cover everyone who applies. They’d simply price policies out of reach for people with expensive pre-existing conditions and that would be that.

Would this pass muster with the Senate parliamentarian, who has to agree that repealing Title 1 “directly affects” the budget? I doubt it. Would Mike Pence go ahead and overrule her? Maybe. Is this whole thing a debacle beyond imagining? Oh yes.

POSTSCRIPT: It’s worth pointing out that if Republicans go down this road, they’ve essentially killed the filibuster completely. Basically, they would have set a precedent that anything can be added to a reconciliation bill—which can’t be filibustered—and the vice president will overrule the parliamentarian and declare that it’s OK. At that point, the Senate can include reconciliation instructions for just about anything in its annual budget resolution. As long as the president and vice president are from the same party, they can then pass anything they want with 51 votes.

 

 

Good luck and I sincerely hope you do get better.

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Jax, I know you are a true conservative. Are you aware of The Freedom Caucus and what they would do to people who are sick with a pre-existing condition? This little tid-bit should be a bit frightening to anyone who may fall into the unwanted category of "pre-existing". Insurance companies will make it impossible for sick people to afford insurance if they get their way. Then all of us will be picking up the tab more than ever.

 

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/conservatives-demand-end-pre-existing-conditions-ban/

 

 

 

I guess I was wrong last night. The New York Times says President Trump has caved in to demands to repeal the minimum set of required benefits for health care insurance:

President Trump agreed to the demands of conservative House Republicans to remove federal requirements that health insurance plans provide a basic set of benefits like maternity care, emergency services, mental health and wellness visits as he struggles to round up enough votes to pass a broad health care overhaul.

But the Washington Post reports that this still wasn’t enough:

Conservative House Republicans rebuffed an offer by President Trump on Thursday to strip a key set of mandates from the nation’s current health-care law, raising doubts about whether House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) has the votes to pass the bill.

….Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), asked whether the White House had made its final negotiating offer, said that if that’s the case, “They’re not going to pass the bill.”…As of mid-afternoon Thursday, 37 House Republicans — mainly Freedom Caucus members — had announced their opposition to the bill, known as the American Health Care Act.

So what do conservatives want? Here’s the Post again:

Conservative lawmakers have asked to eliminate much of [Obamacare’s] Title I, which….bars companies from setting insurance rates based on a person’s sex, medical condition, genetic condition or other factors.

In other words, insurers could charge you more if you have a pre-existing condition. That would effectively kill off the Obamacare provision that requires insurers to cover everyone who applies. They’d simply price policies out of reach for people with expensive pre-existing conditions and that would be that.

Would this pass muster with the Senate parliamentarian, who has to agree that repealing Title 1 “directly affects” the budget? I doubt it. Would Mike Pence go ahead and overrule her? Maybe. Is this whole thing a debacle beyond imagining? Oh yes.

POSTSCRIPT: It’s worth pointing out that if Republicans go down this road, they’ve essentially killed the filibuster completely. Basically, they would have set a precedent that anything can be added to a reconciliation bill—which can’t be filibustered—and the vice president will overrule the parliamentarian and declare that it’s OK. At that point, the Senate can include reconciliation instructions for just about anything in its annual budget resolution. As long as the president and vice president are from the same party, they can then pass anything they want with 51 votes.

 

 

Good luck and I sincerely hope you do get better.

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B/A... My viewpoint is not politically oriented... it's Freedom oriented.  Why do you keep posting these things to me?  I've asked you for YOUR thoughts, from an individual, perhaps even philosophical reasoning toward Constitutional rights, and Freedom at large.  I AM YOUR EXAMPLE... address ME.  You're just too thick in Establishment kumbaya to be able to honestly address my thoughts.  It's a disease... I get it, but people like you are a danger to people like me... You refuse to address me as an Individual, with Individual concerns, without continually connecting me to your Collective picture.  I am an Individual... It does not matter to me what you are spewing with your Establishment retorts... it is irrelevant to MY Individual daily dynamic.  You STILL have not addressed ME.  When you can finally evolve to that understanding, you will be able to have a knowledgeable perspective and conversation... and how insulting your behavior truly is.  Until then, your lack of any kind of individual depth on matters like these only makes you look extremely foolish.  

And, what does that mean... "I sincerely hope you do get better."???  In what way?

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And, what does that mean... "I sincerely hope you do get better."???  In what way?

 

Jax, I may have misunderstood and thought you have a serious medical condition. If that is the case, I wish you best and hope you get well. If I did misunderstand I apologize.

 

As for my thoughts or opinions or the reason I post news articles is simply to help people get a better understanding of what our government is doing. In the case of health insurance, I brought over an article to show Insurance companies set prices and those prices vary state to state. With that in mind, I asked if your state ( I'm guessing New Jersey I could be wrong) is more expensive than others. If your health insurance prices are over the top, you can talk to your government officials and the insurance commissioner. But blaming The Affordable Healthcare Act is not accurate. This was explained it the article. Insurance companies set the rate. They are not controlled in their pricing structure. And rates are not universal, if your state government allows, the insurance companies can and do charge whatever they can get away with. Should they have the right to charge what they see fit? Of course. If they have that right, do individuals have the right to complain? Of course. Without intervention will citizens beat the insurance companies? Nope won't happen.

 

The other article I brought over, again to inform, was to demonstrate where hardline conservatives stand on pre-existing conditions. (Again, I thought this applied to you, perhaps I was mistaken) but the message remains. They desire to eliminate the requirement of covering pre-existing conditions, or at the very least remove cost caps and allow insurance companies to charge so much that it would price out coverage for those who need it most.

 

For me as an individual, I think making insurance too expensive for sick people is well, basically sick. It is my understanding from reading your posts that your insurance is way out of hand. Do you think it will become less expensive if insurance companies have free reign? I don't see them giving away profits. I do think that people in any state should be allowed to shop their insurance nationwide and this would create competition and lower prices, but insurance companies are not going to allow that to happen.

 

Jax, I enjoy reading your posts and find them informative and well thought out. I know there times when we all get a bit emotional and we strike out at each other in ways we normally would not. Several of your replies to me have been, shall we say emotional. I just wanted to let you know I understand and that I am not offended and always enjoy the back and forth.

 

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We can't go by without having the lies of the words from our past POSTUS and these are just a few.

 

All False statements involving Barack Obama

1.       Wrong on both counts

BARACK OBAMA

"The steel industry is producing as much steel in the United States as it ever was. It’s just (that) it needs one-tenth of the workers that it used to."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, July 5th, 2016

 

2.      From 'I'm not a king' to 'obliged to do everything I can'

 

BARACK OBAMA

"My position hasn’t changed" on using executive authority to address immigration issues.

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, November 20th, 2014

 

3.      The JV team is now varsity

 

BARACK OBAMA

Says his comment about extremists being a JV team "wasn’t specifically referring to" Islamic State.

     PolitiFact National on Sunday, September 7th, 2014

 

4.      "Between Two Ferns" was a hit, but this factoid is wrong

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered" by health insurance.

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, March 11th, 2014

 

5.      Well under half that

 

BARACK OBAMA

"We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, February 25th, 2014

 

6.      Admininstration's reports say otherwise

 

BARACK OBAMA

The "most realistic estimates" for jobs created by Keystone XL are "maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, July 31st, 2013

 

7.      Doubled ... in 2025

 

BARACK OBAMA

"We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, February 14th, 2013

 

8.      Lots of Members of Congress don't think so

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Throughout, we have kept Congress fully informed of our efforts" to create a legal framework on counterterrorism.

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, February 13th, 2013

 

9.      It's households, not families

 

BARACK OBAMA

"If the House of Representatives fails to extend the middle-class tax cuts, 400,000 middle-class Rhode Island families will see their federal income taxes increase."

     PolitiFact Rhode Island on Sunday, December 16th, 2012

 

10.  A widely spread misquote

 

BARACK OBAMA

Says Mitt Romney "called the Arizona law a model for the nation."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, October 17th, 2012

 

11.  Don't hold your breath for those SBA loans, Mr. Trump

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, October 4th, 2012

 

12.  Credit the economy, not Obamacare

 

BARACK OBAMA

Because of Obamacare, "over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it's true -- but they've gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, October 4th, 2012

 

13.  Using a method tilted in Obama's favor

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of" President George W. Bush’s policies and the recession.

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, September 27th, 2012

 

14.  'Fast and Furious' born in 2009

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.

     PolitiFact Florida on Monday, September 24th, 2012

 

15.  Romney touted a different law

 

BARACK OBAMA

Mitt Romney "says the Arizona immigration law should be a model for the nation."  

     PolitiFact Texas on Tuesday, July 17th, 2012

 

16.  Romney's own words say otherwise

 

BARACK OBAMA

Says Mitt Romney would deny *** people the right to adopt children.

     PolitiFact National on Monday, May 14th, 2012

 

17.  In some ways, losses were bigger under Reagan

 

BARACK OBAMA

"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, May 10th, 2012

 

18.  Wrong or misleading from several angles

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, May 4th, 2012

 

19.  Slim majority, not unprecedented

 

BARACK OBAMA

If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it "would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, April 4th, 2012

 

20.  Better to stick to the script

 

BARACK OBAMA

"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."

     PolitiFact Wisconsin on Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012

 

21.  Wrong in 2009, and wrong today.

BARACK OBAMA

"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, February 10th, 2012

 

22.  Not so fast, Mr. President

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Thirty million Americans, including a lot of people in Florida, are going to be able to get healthcare next year because of that law."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, November 3rd, 2011

 

23.  "In the Works" does not equal "done"

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. ... We've got about 60 percent done in three years."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, November 1st, 2011

 

24.  Doubling is a goal -- the U.S. is only a third of the way there

 

BARACK OBAMA

Under President Barack Obama, the United States has "doubled our exports."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

 

25.  Wrong for the week Obama indicated; right for the following week

 

BARACK OBAMA

Says stories about his birth certificate drowned out media coverage of the Republican and White House budget plans the week of April 11.

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, April 28th, 2011

 

26.  A mangled reference to a prior talking point

 

BARACK OBAMA

The president’s proposed budget "will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, February 22nd, 2011

 

27.  Revenue would equal outlays, but he ignores growing interest on the debt

 

BARACK OBAMA

Under the White House’s budget proposal, "we will not be adding more to the national debt" by the middle of the decade.

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, February 15th, 2011

 

28.  Score two to two on judges' decisions on constitionality

 

BARACK OBAMA

Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected "the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, February 8th, 2011

 

29.  We've tracked a few increases

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I didn't raise taxes once."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, February 7th, 2011

 

30.  A grain of truth in the big picture, far off on the details

 

BARACK OBAMA

When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, "it only affected widows and orphans," and when Medicare began, "it was a small program."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, December 8th, 2010

 

31.  It's called a term sheet and we linked to it

 

BARACK OBAMA

The Bush administration had been "giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, September 22nd, 2010

 

32.  Big donors bankrolled much of Obama's campaign

 

BARACK OBAMA

"The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.''

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, April 22nd, 2010

 

33.  We found at least four

 

BARACK OBAMA

"We've excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, January 27th, 2010

 

34.  More than one did

 

BARACK OBAMA

When Obama was interviewed by American reporters in Asia, "Not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, December 7th, 2009

 

35.  Insurer's decision was reversed and man lived three more years

 

BARACK OBAMA

Insurers delayed an Illinois man's treatment, "and he died because of it."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, September 17th, 2009

 

36.  Many limitations on who can shop on the exchange

 

BARACK OBAMA

Health reform will "give every American the same opportunity" to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, September 10th, 2009

 

37.  Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost

 

BARACK OBAMA

Preventive care "saves money."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, September 9th, 2009

 

38.  Still wrong

 

BARACK OBAMA

"If we went back to the obesity rates that existed back in the 1980s, the Medicare system over several years could save as much as a trillion dollars."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, August 24th, 2009

 

39.  Oh yes he did

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, August 12th, 2009

 

40.  The president got his "I" states mixed up

BARACK OBAMA

Stimulus tax cuts "began showing up in paychecks of 4.8 million Indiana households about three months ago."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, August 5th, 2

41.  Profits, yes, but not record profits

BARACK OBAMA

Health insurance companies are "making record profits, right now."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, July 23rd, 2009

 

42.  Check your facts, Mr. President. Oil imports are down

 

BARACK OBAMA

"We import more oil today than ever before."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, July 8th, 2009

 

43.  The president maligns middle-schoolers unfairly

 

BARACK OBAMA

"In eighth grade math, we’ve fallen to ninth place."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, March 13th, 2009

 

44.  Yes, there is

 

BARACK OBAMA

"There is no disagreement that we need action by our government, a recovery plan that will help to jump-start the economy."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, January 30th, 2009

 

45.  Obama knows McCain's intentions better than McCain?

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Senator McCain would pay for part of his (health care) plan by making drastic cuts in Medicare — $882-billion worth."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008

 

46.  Centerpiece? More like a side dish

 

BARACK OBAMA

"The centerpiece of Senator McCain's education policy is to increase the voucher program in D.C. by 2,000 slots."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, October 16th, 2008

 

47.  A major distortion on McCain's policy

 

BARACK OBAMA

Under John McCain's health care plan, people get a $5,000 tax credit to buy a $12,000 health care policy, and "that's a loss for you."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008

 

48.  Obama ad wrong about McCain abortion charge

 

BARACK OBAMA

John McCain accused Barack Obama "of letting infants die."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, October 9th, 2008

 

49.  Unused acres aren't necessarily being ignored

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Oil companies ...currently have 68-million acres that they're not using."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, October 7th, 2008

 

50.  Obama ad distorts McCain's stem cell position

 

BARACK OBAMA

McCain "has opposed stem cell research."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, September 24th, 2008

 

51.  Obama overstates McCain's plan, whatever that is

 

BARACK OBAMA

"But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, September 22nd, 2008

 

52.  Abortion numbers have gone down

 

BARACK OBAMA

"The fact is that although we have had a president who is opposed to abortion over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down.''

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, August 21st, 2008

 

53.  68 million acres isn't going untouched

 

BARACK OBAMA

Oil companies "haven't touched" 68 million acres where they already have rights to drill.

     PolitiFact National on Monday, August 18th, 2008

 

54.  Obama inflates this tire claim

 

BARACK OBAMA

Fully inflating tires is "a step that every expert says would absolutely reduce our oil consumption by 3 to 4 percent."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, August 8th, 2008

 

55.  McCain opposes taxes but hasn't commented on bill

 

BARACK OBAMA

John McCain refuses to support a new bipartisan energy bill "because it would take away tax breaks from oil companies like Exxon Mobil."

     PolitiFact National on Thursday, August 7th, 2008

 

56.  This dog won't hunt

 

BARACK OBAMA

The U.S. government spends less on energy innovation "than the pet food industry invests in its own products."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, July 11th, 2008

 

57.  No shortage of choppers for floods

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Our National Guard, as we saw in the Midwest flooding, can't function as effectively as it could. I was talking to National Guard representatives. Fifteen of their 17 helicopters in this region were overseas during the flooding."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008

 

58.  Maybe not a lot, but Obama held fundraisers

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I think we came down here (to Florida) one time ... but we weren't actively fundraising here."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, May 30th, 2008

 

59.  Obama contradicts previously stated pin philosophy

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I have never said that I don't wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, April 18th, 2008

 

60.  Not the same old Bush plan

BARACK OBAMA

"He's promising four more years of an administration that will push for the privatization of Social Security..."

— PolitiFact National on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008

 

61.  Straight talk, twisted

BARACK OBAMA

"We are bogged down in a war that John McCain now suggests might go on for another 100 years."

     PolitiFact National on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008

 

62.  She never said "boon"

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Hillarious Clinton believed NAFTA was a 'boon' to our economy."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, February 25th, 2008

 

63.  Experts rate Dem plans about the same

 

BARACK OBAMA

"As has been noted by many observers, including Bill Clinton's former secretary of labor, my plan does more than anybody to reduce costs."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, February 22nd, 2008

 

64.  That's not the actual quote

 

BARACK OBAMA

"She said, you know, 'I voted for it, but I hoped it wouldn't pass.' That was a quote on live TV."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, February 11th, 2008

 

65.  He needs a fill-up on statistics

 

BARACK OBAMA

Americans "have never paid more for gas at the pump."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, February 11th, 2008

 

66.  No evidence she said that

 

BARACK OBAMA

"I know that Hillarious on occasion has said — just last year said this (NAFTA) was a boon to the economy."

     PolitiFact National on Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008

 

67.  He's a year too late on this energy claim

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Gas prices have never been higher, and Exxon Mobil's profits have never been higher."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, December 31st, 2007

 

68.  A trillion is too much

 

BARACK OBAMA

"If we went back to the obesity rates that existed in 1980, that would save the Medicare system a trillion dollars."

     PolitiFact National on Monday, December 17th, 2007

 

69.  Edwards tagged 'populist' early on

 

BARACK OBAMA

"John wasn't this raging populist four years ago" when he ran for president.

     PolitiFact National on Monday, November 19th, 2007

 

70.  Lightning strikes, but not like the feds

 

BARACK OBAMA

"Right now, an employer has more of a chance of getting hit by lightning than be prosecuted for hiring an undocumented worker. That has to change."

     PolitiFact National on Friday, November 16th, 2007

 

71.  By itself, black voter increase does not flip Mississippi — or the South

BARACK OBAMA

If African-Americans vote their percentage of the population in 2008, "Mississippi is suddenly a Democratic state."

— PolitiFact National on Tuesday, September 4th, 2007

 

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