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Maliki and Sadr .. of rivalry to the rivalry

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calculates the Europeans to personal A_khasomat including only Mander, especially in the political work with and they are human beings like us Affected words here and there and perhaps Balqil gossip. But because of entrenched democratic experiences of their countries they respect the rules of the democratic game and political action even if the minimum reasonable Bhdodh. Base work with them based on the principle of competition is not personal rivalry. And even personal rivalries can be present even in the West have had political results in many cases , perhaps the last of which took place as the US election campaign between Donald Trump and Hillarious Clinton on the strength of personal rivalry between the two base. But Athblg which made it to the degree of personalization is to deal with the consequences of the elections. While Clinton respected the results of the Trump , who promised during the campaign to tip Hillarious prison if he wins the venerable praised their services to their country. 

So what happened was a personal feud in which much of the equestrian because it did not turn into a personification. Maysm differences in our political leaders that it too often turn out after the political rivalry legitimate if the positive competition to personifying the base, especially after Itlaagafha close to the two parties and the most dangerous Mazhpt to the media owned by each party including the so -called e - armies that. Where it is unfortunately fueled the controversy and turns what it simple and plain to deep differences and if not solve it. Perhaps the rift between Messrs Eminence Muqtada al - Sadr and al - Haj Nuri al - Maliki is located in this box. It is in large part apolitical dispute case if any disagreement Yin two leaders or two currents , each one of them his vision of building the state. But because of the negative feeding of contention by many parties it seemed to grow and expand and was between Maliki and Sadr 's problems and deep - seated differences can not be solved. This is not true according to all political action , which disregards the permanent and lasting friendships and rivalries base but on the basis of common interests standards as he disregards even on the political legacy of the parties as in the end the sons of one school. 

Out of this reasoning Tji initiative , which are now being worked out within the Center Brief aimed at the convergence of views between Messrs . Maliki and al- Sadr would lead to transform the dispute between the two of rivalry which amounts often end personalization to the electoral and political reconstruction of competition. In order for the settlement between Maliki and Sadr succeed you must first settlement between the wings of the political parties and media work. If he wanted each of the two wings of al - Maliki and al- Sadr for arapprochement between their leaders , they have the initiative to develop a road map based on the inter Perhaps the steps in front of them to stop media campaigns between them. And to agree to a truce media based on the code of conduct is not written but based on personal pledge between the two parties so that these items are not overrun abuse and name - calling and other methods of defamation or anything that may lead to the creation of animosity and hatred between the two sides. Must also close to both leaders to start a campaign to bring the views either through the transfer of positive messages between them or the provision of advice leading up to a summit meeting or work as much as possible on the melting iceberg that has accumulated over the past years. 

It also requires some leaders Alsaaysah which has ties strong personality with both al - Maliki and al- Sadr, especially Shiite religious not political class ( I mean big leaders of the Dawa Party , not participate in the government and is not part of the political process or by leading senior Shi'ite including some religious references adult or senior Sadrists are not directly related to them not to lump the Liberal nor the Sadrist trend , and their status is) a campaign between the parties to begin the work of a settlement between them , including ending the personal rivalry and turning it to compete in the open field and can accommodate for all. In this context , we see that is to set a timetable for all these moves which we hope will take place in silence that preceded the silence media which can then be the announcement of the meeting between al - Sadr and al - Hakim in any place chosen by the parties. In my conviction that a settlement between Maliki and Sadr will pave the way for the success of the historic compromise steps.

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3 hours ago, Wiljor said:

You got that right 10 Years Later, that picture needs no description.

A good morning to you sir  :salute:

Howdeeee ! :salute:

(side note ) Sure wish these Chowder Heads would get a move on . . . of course i think the whole thing hinges mainly on Mosul [ perhaps w/Trump somewhat - although I don't quite think that's the case. but w/Iraq U just never know what they're thinking ] :shakehead:

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Too funny, the author of this article said:   

9 hours ago, yota691 said:

And even personal rivalries can be present even in the West have had political results in many cases , perhaps the last of which took place as the US election campaign between Donald Trump and Hillarious Clinton on the strength of personal rivalry between the two base.

 

 

 

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Muqtada al-Sadr: The unlikely answer to Iraq's sectarian problem

February 05 2017 07:30 PM
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There is perhaps no Iraqi more synonymous with the sectarian turmoil that has plagued Iraq during the past 15 years than Muqtada al-Sadr.
 

The cleric has been dubbed a "firebrand" in countless newspaper columns, and has held an almost constant presence in the Iraqi political discourse since the fall of the Baath regime in 2003.
 

Saraya al-Salam, the militias he heads, formerly known as the Mahdi army, were accused of running sectarian death squads and elements from within helped plunge the country into a vicious civil war.
 

They also boldly took on the forces of the US-led coalition in Sadr city. But now, with half of Mosul liberated and the end of the ISIS in Iraq in sight, Sadr appears to be emerging as a voice of reason and coexistence.
 

In an interview last week with Turkish TV station TRT, Sadr advocated outreach to those who had followed IS in Mosul, and to the disaffected Sunnis across Iraq.
 

He said: "I'm holding up a light looking for the moderates because they are scared to show up. There are still moderates among the people but they are scared, but we have to give them a chance to show up and give their ideas."
 

Sunni outreach

This is not the first time Sadr has advocated cross-sectarian action. In 2013 he expressed solidarity with Sunni protests in Anbar province against the Shia-led government, labelling the demonstration's "Iraq's Arab Spring".

A year later, in 2014, his parliamentary bloc banded together with Sunnis as part of an effort to oust prime minister Nouri al-Maliki.
 

Sadr also used the interview to warn against the Shia militias which currently number upwards of 100,000 in Iraq and despite being instrumental in the fight against Islamic State, have the potential to act as spoilers in post-IS Iraq.

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He warned that "there are some governmental, civil and political fears that the armed groups might take over. Whether they are good or bad ones, their policies will be based on weapons." And he urged them to stay out of fights abroad, such as Syria and even Yemen, stating that these interventions had already bought Iraq "many troubles".
 

Perhaps his most important development has been as a counter to beleaguered Al-Maliki, who has been scheming a return to power in recent months.
 

In his TRT interview, he described Maliki's mindset as "militant" and suggested he was consistently spoiling for his next fight, saying: "If Mosul was stable, would Maliki sit and do nothing? No, he will come up with another battle. Car bombings, explosions something else, the new ISIS - a new enemy."
 

Nationalism over the establishment

There is much personal animosity between Maliki and Sadr - but the latter's public rebukes often stem as much from his staunch nationalism as they do any personal dislike. Maliki, and the militias he is closely connected to – notably the Badr organisation, are the embodiment of Iranian influence in Iraq.
 

If Iraq is to become a stable and prosperous state after the defeat of IS, then it is a given that sectarianism must be overcome. But few of the country's "old guard" appear to have learnt this lesson after several decades of war and strife.
 

The cleric is currently pushing a special project which, although light on details, emphasises the need for Iraq to move away from its "party" or "sectarian" mentality of governance towards a technocratic administration.

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He is hoping new faces will emerge from every part of the country to lead it away from the corrupt political establishment – something that is believed to cost the treasury as much as $4bn a year.
 

But an important question remains: is this merely rhetoric or a genuine attempt at outreach?
 

Power players in Iraq have a distinguished history of saying what needs to be said to win votes in Iraq.

Michael Knights, a Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, believes Sadr's track record demonstrates its authenticity. He suggests "it fits into a long-term pattern that reaches back to 2004 in Fallujah when his men fought alongside the Sunnis."
 

Knights also believes that much of the sectarian violence the Mahdi army was involved in, was orchestrated by Iranian-backed elements of the militias such as Qais Khazali who now leads the Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq militia". He adds: "Muqtada is a nationalist, unlike Badr, Kataib Hezbollah and Asaib Ahl al-Haq."
 

He adds that Sadr holds a unique place in Iraqi politics at the moment: "Muqtada is not the establishment, but he is an ally of the Shia political and religious mainstream for now, against Maliki. He has the street muscle to offset Maliki and the PMU [Popular Mobilisation Units]."
 

Recent days have seen Sadr make his trademark fiery statements calling for a ban on Americans in Iraq following Donald Trump's Muslim ban and for a shutdown of the US embassy in Baghdad.

These will likely continue, if for no other reason than to shore up his base in the face of growing Iranian influence in Iraq.
 

What matters is his outreach - his plan to empower and engage with Sunni moderates could potentially provide the basis for a post-IS Iraq.

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/5758/Muqtada-al-Sadr-The-unlikely-answer-to-Iraq-s-sectarian-problem

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Iraq's deeply ( & divisive ) seated issues span countless centuries. These will not go away silently into the night. However, if enough Men of Courage & Leadership from ALL sides can put away their sectarian issues ( for the good of the county), come together for the common good of their country; they will inspire the the Iraqi citizen (s) to unite.

It won't be easy. More than likely it will be a very long and winding road to true stability. Succeed or Fail . . . all the hand holding in the world won't amount to a hill of beans if their conviction to succeed falters, lest they slip into darkness. It's up to them; and they know that !

" A house divided against itself cannot stand."  Abraham Lincoln
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/abraham_lincoln.html

 

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38 minutes ago, tigergorzow said:

Nationalism over the establishment

There is much personal animosity between Maliki and Sadr - but the latter's public rebukes often stem as much from his staunch nationalism as they do any personal dislike. Maliki, and the militias he is closely connected to – notably the Badr organisation, are the embodiment of Iranian influence in Iraq.

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11 hours ago, 10 YEARS LATER said:

Iraq's deeply ( & divisive ) seated issues span countless centuries. These will not go away silently into the night. However, if enough Men of Courage & Leadership from ALL sides can put away their sectarian issues ( for the good of the county), come together for the common good of their country; they will inspire the the Iraqi citizen (s) to unite.

It won't be easy. More than likely it will be a very long and winding road to true stability. Succeed or Fail . . . all the hand holding in the world won't amount to a hill of beans if their conviction to succeed falters, lest they slip into darkness. It's up to them; and they know that !

" A house divided against itself cannot stand."  Abraham Lincoln
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/abraham_lincoln.html

 

You nailed it! Unity is what they have to have..... It's hard to displace something that has been ingrained into the minds of a people. I think we have been watching this progress for as long as I can remember. It's a long road, slow as a snail sometimes, but it can be done. We need the same here right now. Enough with the, "That's so sad, they wont let a starving, abandoned puppy into our country.". These aren't starving puppies! Most of these people have been taught HATE against America since birth. They would torcher and kill you, as soon as look at you, if given the opportunity... It's time that everyone truly open their eyes, and move towards unity, and a oneness like we've never known before in this multi generation.  Hate begets Hate. Enough. Let's take our current brothers and sisters, love and protect them. Let's be cautious of who we adopt onto our family from this point on. Don't know how I got off on us, but...United we stand, divided, bad crap happens! Night all.  :D

Ps. Sadr scares me with his turns lately... He's up to something...

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Sadr warns of the Charge of "the hungry and the oppressed" against corruption

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 Since 06/02/2017 16:33 pm (Baghdad time)

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He warned the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, on Monday, the Iraqi government Tdaaiat continuation of some corruption, warning at the time of a storm for the Iraqi people.

Sadr said in a tweet posted on the social networking site "Twitter" I followed / balances News /, "we await the revolution of the Iraqi people rebel against injustice and corruption," calling on the then government of "the Iraqi people's revolution against corruption and the Charge of the hungry and the oppressed against corruption."

The tweet-Sadr to mark the return of demonstrations against corruption and corrupt people in the Iraqi government and its institutions, where activists in the chest mainstream news trading prepare to exit the popular demonstrations in Baghdad and Mahafezat.anthy 29 / tc n

 

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21 hours ago, Lorre said:

You nailed it! Unity is what they have to have..... It's hard to displace something that has been ingrained into the minds of a people. I think we have been watching this progress for as long as I can remember. It's a long road, slow as a snail sometimes, but it can be done. We need the same here right now. Enough with the, "That's so sad, they wont let a starving, abandoned puppy into our country.". These aren't starving puppies! Most of these people have been taught HATE against America since birth. They would torcher and kill you, as soon as look at you, if given the opportunity... It's time that everyone truly open their eyes, and move towards unity, and a oneness like we've never known before in this multi generation.  Hate begets Hate. Enough. Let's take our current brothers and sisters, love and protect them. Let's be cautious of who we adopt onto our family from this point on. Don't know how I got off on us, but...United we stand, divided, bad crap happens! Night all.  :D

Ps. Sadr scares me with his turns lately... He's up to something...

" Ps. Sadr scares me with his turns lately... He's up to something... "

That boy is the JOKER in the Deck if ever there was one !

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Sadr threatens his political opponents, especially the "al-Maliki" to blow up a new wave of protests (Details)

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Sadr threatened to current leader Moqtada al-Sadr's political opponents Almmiskin the reins of power in the country to blow up a new wave of protests, against the backdrop of the deteriorating social conditions and the prevalence of corruption.

 
It is known for chest used to paper the street in his power struggle against his opponents mighty from within the extended Shiite political family to which he belongs, believes that senior symbols deprived him since 2003 proper position him as the bearer of the legacy of the Sadrists with religious and political standing among Iraq's Shiites.

 
It comes on top of the chest opponents of former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, who has already used military force to attack the leader of the Sadrist militia after it gained strength and become a threat to the rule of the leader of the Islamic Dawa Party.


And it included a tweet published Sadr on his account in Twitter, a clear reference to al-Maliki when he said "the corruption that warns Charge of the hungry and the oppressed if careful and rose up."


It seems citation clear of naming large-scale military campaign which was launched by the Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in March 2008 on the Mehdi Army militia led by Moqtada al-Sadr, under the name of "Charge of the Knights", which lasted for nearly three weeks and led to the surrender of militia mentioned, and resolved and remodel under the name new is the "Brigades of peace."


Since then the conflict between the two men to open now. And recently it succeeded State of Law coalition led by al-Maliki in the dismissal of the governor of Baghdad, Ali al-Tamimi belonging to the Sadrist movement.


It came in retaliation from the current accused by supporters of al-Maliki, the bombing of a wave of protests that greeted the former Prime Minister during a tour was carried out a few months ago in the provinces of the south and wanted through which the restoration of part of his popularity sagging in the largest strongholds of the currents and the Shiite parties, but the result was counterproductive exactly where he was a great insult forced him to cut his trip and is now referred to in the Iraqi popular circles as the "runaway south."


The manner Koranic inadvertent reminder of the religious standing, al-Sadr said in Ngridth "dear to you reform and Zain in your hearts, and you hate corruption, injustice, occupation and terrorism, have we sow the al-Sadr in you, O people of Iraq Rebel those seed and now we await what you are doing."


And allow such a strong hints of the chest to maintain its presence in the spotlight in defense of his position at a time when accepting the opponents of the Iraqi political scene, including the parties Shiites Almtsaron between them, for the most titled arrested conflict over the reins of power and the reins of power in the post-regulation Daesh in Iraq which is taking place against him is another battle in his stronghold remaining in Mosul, Nineveh province in northern Iraq Center.


It is feared the chest loss of its stake in power during the next phase with the progress of the Islamic Supreme Council leader Ammar al-Hakim to the front of the scene presenting himself as a man of reconciliation between Iraq's communities and ethnicities, with Nuri al-Maliki is counting on its alliance with the senior folk crowd, who owned a reputation in fighting al Daesh investable political leaders even an election in local elections and after the upcoming parliamentary elections in the spring of 2018.


Sadr is aware that the owners, including the hands of political and financial influence of the opportunity to return to the post of prime minister. Against this background has not stopped during the last period to claim the restructuring of the election commission and change the election law in place now, which experts and specialists believe that it opens the door for manipulation and fraud.


Recently, the leader of the Sadrist movement project to the House of Representatives to reform the election law, calling for preventing candidacy official took over the position for a period of two sessions, knowing that his arch rival Nuri al-Maliki became prime minister for two terms between 2006 and 2014, which means that al-Sadr's proposal against prompt directly.


The project included the observation of elections by the neutral countries, and conduct special ballot elections in the same election day, vote and displaced communities in the place they are in. The text obliges parties to submit their candidates with university degrees.


With the accumulation of popular anger at the deteriorating security and living conditions in the country, and the desperation of Iraqis from the promises of the current prime minister for reform, the paper street best suited to Moqtada al-Sadr will be during the coming period after he succeeded to a large extent in present himself as a leader of reform and resistant to corruption.


During the massive wave of protests that erupted in most cities in Iraq, starting from the summer of 2015, Muqtada al-Sadr demonstrated prowess in riding a wave of popular anger and guidance and use paper for political bargaining, where he did not hesitate to go down to the street and the leadership of the sit-ins in the heart of the capital, Baghdad.

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Sadr's office: Stay tuned for a statement of demonstrations Magdy Rady throughout Iraq

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 Since 08/02/2017 13:35 pm (Baghdad time)

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The director of the office of Mr. Sadr in Baghdad / Rusafa, Ibrahim al-Jabri, Wednesday, that during the next two days will be issued a public statement to be demonstrations Magdy Rady in all governorates of Iraq.

He said al-Jabri SMC / balances News /, "The demands of the demonstrators and clear and is three points. The first is to remove the corrupt government Gatman on the release of the Iraqi people, and secondly is to change the Election Commission, while the third demand is to change the unjust Commission Act" (the as he put it).

"The Law Commission is a forgery hundred percent and that it turned to the Iraqi people," noting that "the legitimate demands and remain a legitimate and that the demonstrations today will Magdy Rady."

He pointed out that "the Committee (the Coordinating Committee of the sit-ins and demonstrations) in the thoracic and civil and others for this call for demonstrations include all the people of Iraq."

He stressed that "during the next two days will be issued a statement from the Commission to be there Magdy Rady demonstrations include all of Iraq's provinces," likely that "there are sit-ins."

Protesters planned to exit the third hour of the evening demonstrations and a wide front gates Alkhaddra.anthy 29

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Sadr in the memory of the tent green renew demanding a change in the Commission and the electoral law

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 Since 08/02/2017 00:12 pm (Baghdad time)

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Demanded the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr again to change the electoral commission and the law and all the faces "of goods gouge" As he addressed the demonstrators, the anniversary of what is known as the "Green Tent", which staged a sit-in which a year ago inside the Green Zone, saying, "What are you doing? He stressed that the reform revolution requires moving away all what interests sectarianism and all that distinguishes all the bull and stay away from politics and politicians and the unification of the demonstrations.

This came at the point of 20 uncovered by blogger Saleh Mohammed Iraq which expresses the viewpoint cleric Moqtada al-Sadr as observers indicate that he is al-Sadr himself and in which he said that the Iraqi reform revolution requires "leaving Garah people criticism that the Iraqi flag is the one who raises just do not ... not the banner of the civil Movement and the Muslim nor the banner of Saraya not parties. "

He stressed the need "to start the demonstrations after basmalah divine National Basmalah: (name of the people) and to be an Iraqi general .. cheers and chants for leaving but is forbidden."

He explained that "the signs, which also raises public with a comprehensive national interests and avoid special interests we folk influence on themselves if their merit."

He stressed the importance of moving away from criticism of the proximal and distal occupied countries, but "they are all respectable guests as long as they respect our revolution."

He called to get away from everything that raises sectarian division among the Iraqi beautiful mosaic

He also stressed the move away from all that separates the rebels collect and maintain cohesion, referring to "leave the non-competition project for fame and control."

Also it pointed to the importance of "maintaining a central supervisory committee, which in turn take into account the people in order to preserve its prestige."

He went on to the need to "stay away from politics and politicians" past to emphasize the "no double standards .. clock and pretend to corrupt other Ntodd This is the hypocrisy which hurts the essence of reform."

And he appealed for national and Islamic public morality, encouraging the need to maintain a peaceful demonstration and non-aggression on one particularly security forces.

And while pointing to the insistence and determination to continue the path of reform, he said the long-identifying demands now to "change the Commission" and "change the election law" and "changing faces Hla gouge and stay away from other claims."

Noting that "the success of the revolution will achieve all the demands in turn."

He stressed the "lack of involvement of corrupt politicians and others with deviant ideas and the like in the demonstrations and protests after officially innocence and maintain the reputation of the reformist revolution in order to preserve its prestige and increase its effectiveness."

Qqal and that "the unification of the demonstrations Brahe strengthens its resolve," calling the victory of the army and the jihad fighters in surveys

He concluded by saying "alert you: the anniversary of the Green tent in the Green Zone brought her first anniversary ... what are you doing?".

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Sadrist respond to link the demonstrations on the anniversary of the Baath coup
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revealed an official source in the political body of the Sadrist movement, the cause of the date of the organization of demonstrations, on Wednesday, in contrast to the practice in on Friday of the previous demonstrations coincided with the anniversary of the Baath Party coup in the eighth of February 1963.
The source told all of Iraq [where] that " the deadline set by the Commission Altenseeqh demonstrations and there is no linking out at the demonstration today and this anniversary." 
He added that " the organization of the rally on Wednesday as an official time and that the demonstrations on Friday became routine and the government does not move to the claims , " noting that " the date was chosen to official hours as pressure on the government in front of the gates of the Green Zone." 
For his part, MP for the Liberal bloc Dalimy Abdul Aziz, said that today 's demonstration , which called her the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr "that do not fit a certain point." 
Said Zalmi's [where] , "such as Mamarov that coordinating committees are determined by the date of the demonstrations and call her chest was General gave a brief outline and kept the option for people to claim rights and reforms and thus is the people who decide their own destiny." 
The demonstrations took place today in front of the Green Zone in Baghdad , called her earlier in advance of the chest to demand a change of the Electoral Commission and replaced Bmstqlh away from quotas and party.
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