Parliament will vote at its Saturday crowd Act and the 2017 budget

[yota691]

Citizen calls on MPs to come to the meeting next Saturday to vote on the law of the crowd

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 Since 11.19.2016 at 12:54 (Baghdad time)

BAGHDAD - balances News

MP has called for citizen Bloc Hamdiya Husseini, members of the House to come to a session Saturday to vote on the law of the popular crowd.

Husseini said in a statement received / balances News / copy of it, "This crowd is not a sect nor to the province but is include all the colors of the Iraqi spectrum has been endowed with the call of the religious authority in order to cleanse our land from Conception terrorist Daesh gangs wreaked our land of corruption and criminality and murder against civilians women and the kidnapping so to all members of the House of Representatives to come to the meeting of 26 of this month to vote on the law of the popular crowd. "

It showed that "this is less a duty to offer to Hola Champions Tdhaathm in appreciation of their heroism and their blood that painted pure pure and cleansed most of our provinces which were under the control of these gangs were re most of the displaced families to their areas," .anthy 29 n / 10

[yota691]

Husseini calls on members of parliament to attend a meeting next Saturday to vote on the popular crowd Act

History of edits:: 19/11/2016 12:42 • 62 visits readable

[Where - Baghdad] 
called the MP for the Bloc citizen member of the parliamentary legal committee Hamdiya Husseini , all members of parliament to come to the House of Representatives session on Saturday to contribute to a vote on the popular crowd Act.

Husseini said in a statement received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it, "This crowd is not a sect nor to the province but is include all the colors of the Iraqi spectrum has been endowed with the call of the religious authority in order to cleanse our land from Conception terrorist Daesh gangs wreaked our land of corruption and criminality and murder against civilians and the abduction of women to all members of the House of Representatives to come to the meeting of 26 of this month to vote on the popular crowd Act. " 
it said al - Husseini said , " this is less a duty to offer to Hola Champions appreciation of Tdhaathm and heroism that painted their blood pure pure and cleansed most of our provinces which were under their control most of the bands were re - displaced families to their areas. " 
the House of Representatives approved a proposal to include the popular crowd Act for a vote in the 26 session of the month after the end of the visit , a ceremony Arbain.

[yota691]

Deputy for the citizen calls on all members of parliament to attend a meeting next Saturday to vote on the law of the crowd

History of edits:: 19/11/2016 12:17 • 93 visits readable

{Baghdad} Euphrates News called the MP for the Bloc citizen member of the Legal Committee Hamdiya Husseini, all members of the House of Representatives to attend the session on Saturday, 26th of this month, so as to contribute to vote on the popular crowd Act.

Husseini said in a statement the agency {Euphrates News} received a copy of it on Saturday, " The crowd is not a sect or a province but is include all the colors of the Iraqi spectrum has been endowed with the call of a good reference for cleansing Aradna of Conception Takfiri gangs wreaked our land of corruption and criminality and murder against civilians and the abduction of women. " 
she added that" this is less a duty to offer to Hola Champions appreciation of Tdhaathm and heroism that painted their blood pure pure and cleansed most of our provinces which were under the control of terrorist groups, has been re most of the displaced families to their areas. " 
The House of Representatives decided during the session last Wednesday, to postpone the vote on the popular crowd Act to November 26 th, with the participation of all parliamentary blocs, while assuring a member of the board of the presidency of the Council of Representatives , Sheikh Hamoudi, that pass the popular crowd Act will be before the start of the legislative recess. 
the MP for the National Alliance Razak mheibes, said Tuesday { the eighth of November this}, there are certain points postponed a vote on the popular crowd Act to the 26th of this month, the most important of its association with General Commander of the armed forces. 
for his part , MP for the national forces alliance Ahmed al - Jubouri, the agreement on the approval of the draft law People crowd in the next session of parliament on 26 November of this, after the inclusion of some paragraphs. According to what he said for {Euphrates News} .anthy

 

[Laid Back]

Iraqi parties are racing  against  time to pass the draft law of the popular crowd in the Iraqi parliament before the end of the battle of Mosul against al Daesh  in anticipation that the   expel of  Daesh  from  Nineveh province will lead to the absence of justification to proceed with the continuation of government spending on Shiite militias. Therefore  this Council discussed  last Wednesday , during its 25 session ,  the project of the Act of Popular Crowd , which provides for the consideration of the crowd  as a formation  that  enjoys  with  legal personality  and part of the armed forces and  linked with the  commander in chief  of the armed forces,  and   stipulated   the  inclusion  of   members  of formation with the  law starting from June 13   2014.

And the legal draft law adopted by the National Alliance (Shiite)  gives  fighters of the popular crowd privileges parallel to those  received  by the members  of the Iraqi Ministry of Defense, which are relatively high privileges  compared to salaries for civil institutions. The  draft law  obligate the government of arming the popular crowd, and meet  all  its logistic requirements , and give it the authority to liberate  the provinces under the control of  Daesh , which means to  legitimize its spread in the Sunni areas, and  the consequent  abuses and violations of a sectarian dimension against the local population. The  draft law does not aim  only to accommodate the fighters of the crowd in the army or Iraqi forces , but to recognize the militias as  a military entity   independent from the rest of the systems  and the Iraqi government  undertakes  spending on it on condition  that  the crowd  keeps  independently  with its  management and agenda.

The legal draft law of People crowd  presented  to the Iraqi parliament   has raised  wide argument and sharp disagreements between the Shiite National Alliance who  insists  on passing the law, and  among other powers that have  reservations and concerns  about it . The political blocs in parliament have agreed to vote in 26 of the current month’s meeting  on  the draft law of  People crowd , before the start of the legislative  recess  for the current  season   at the end of this month. And  sharp differences have been escalated  on some articles of  the controversial draft law amid objections of  Kurds and the Union of Iraqi forces on the grounds that it gives legal immunity for its affiliates amid accusations of committing abuses in the liberated areas, noting that the Iraqi government admitted to the occurrence of some of them. The map of the objectors of Representatives indicates  to the   Sunni   rare  unanimity to oppose the draft law.

It is  not true that the popular crowd, which was founded on June 13 2014, based on a fatwa  of Shiite cleric Ali al-Sistani to face the organization Daesh that includes all Iraq’s communities and his own people as claimed by Hakim Al-Zmili  , the chairman of the Security and Defense Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives noting that in a study prepared by the Rawabet Centre for  Research and strategic Studies  about the popular crowd and published in the August 28  of this year, which came under the title  “popular Crowd  in Iraq .. Origin and future  “the survey  study ”  the study showed that the most elements of  popular crowd are descended  from  the southern provinces of the Shiite character and consists of 76 armed factions  that  the  religious marja of the most of them is the  Iranian Murshed ( Supreme Leader) of revolution  Ali Khamenei. And that 80% percent of its military effort is the responsibility of Saraya Al-Salam , the Badr Brigade, the Hezbollah Brigades of Iraq, and Asaib Ahl-Al-Haq ,they are  also religious factions affiliated to Ali Khamenei, with the exception of one Christian faction , a “battalion of Babylon.” So  the popular crowd is not as said by Hakim Al- Zamili that it represents all the people of Iraq , but represents one  sectarian spectrum “Shiite”  of the Iraqi society.

And the legal draft law of  Popular crowd  if passed in the Iraqi parliament    would  raise  concerns of  different Iraqi spectrums   because it legitimizes to the militias who have  non-Iraqi agendas , as they relate to the Iranian regime, and planning to fight  proxy wars for their interests , such as announcing   the transition to Syria to fight alongside  the  forces of Syrian President Bashar  Assad after the completion of the battle of Mosul .As its leaders announce since now that the «crowd» is  a necessity required by the threats facing Iraq and waving from now to the need to fight Daesh in Syria.  Nouri al-Maliki was not satisfied, a political face on the top of the government pyramid,  by shouting « we are coming ,Al-Riqa» as the capital of  Daesh, but  added saying  «  we are coming, Aleppo » . Iraqi Observers said that to give legal legitimacy to the sectarian militias will obligate   the government   to legitimize the other ethnic and sectarian components such as units of the Kurdish Peshmerga and the Sunni National crowd , otherwise  it would announce its bias   to  a certain  component  without the other and lose its character   as an Iraqi inclusive government.

The continuation of the popular crowd in Iraq after Daesh may increase  of Iraq’s internal and external crises , Internally we can talk here  that the continuance of it  would increase the burden on Iraq’s Finance especially  the Iraqi state since  years ago  is suffering from a severe financial crisis due to the decline in global oil prices which reflected directly on the government sector because the Iraqi government has become unable to pay salaries to half of its staff, and  there is no doubt that  the government will double the deficit with the addition of more than 100 thousand element of the popular crowd at Iraq’s institutions. The  Matter here is not confined only to the salaries of those elements, but also the need of the military supplies and financial allocations for media channels as well.  This financial crisis has been accompanied by a security crisis in Iraq noting that these factions  that make up the popular crowd  despite its   integration  into the Iraqi state institutions, but it effectively will continue to receive orders from its  organizational leadership and not government,  Each one knows that those particular factions such as  “Saraya Al-Salam , Hezbollah Brigades of Iraq and Asaib Ahl al-Haq, the Badr Brigade ” are in control of certain parts of the Iraqi capital Baghdad and the provinces of Iraq of Shiite component , and these factions have the ammunitions   and weapons  making their control seems as an  actual  division  to the  areas  they control as if we were in front of the case” the kings of  the tawai’f that  prevailed  in the state of Andalusia as conflicts and wars between them led to the fall of Andalusia and this may be repeated in Iraq after Daesh and postmodern world as factions leaders in Iraq may becoming  emirs of tawai’f ” communities” , including  disagreements and conflicts may lead Iraq to the brink of the abyss, and   the truth of this hypothesis was proved  as the armed factions already engaged in armed conflicts  among themselves in the south of Iraq.

On the external level that the continuation of the popular crowd in Iraq after Daesh and its political, military, security and media and economic weight and a link of its  main factions  as it was also known  to the Iranian regime and the  control of this regime  on  Iraq since 2006 and to this day, it may make the popular crowd  as   reserve army  to the   Iranian regime in Iraq and be a tool for this regime  to intervene in Arab affairs to destabilize it, it is no wonder that it will send  some factions of the popular crowd after  elimination of  the Daesh in Iraq to Syria to support Bashar al-Assad, and sends it also to some of the Arab Gulf states, then  , the disaster  will be taken place in  Iraq first and in  Arab secondly  noting that the  Iranian regime in this case hits the Arabs with Arabs, and Iran is  the only one which benefited  from  this beating. This is not what we hope for.

This means that the dark tunnel in which  Iraq entered to it will not end  with the end of regulation Daesh but may be a new beginning for conflicts in  Iraq, including  the popular crowd and emphasis on sectarian quotas in the governance of Iraq, and conflicts between the majority of the Sunni population of Mosul  who are interested in their city administration to certain extent  of independence and between the federal government    predominantly  by Shiite color, which will seek to restore  its central control over the province, and the conflict between the Kurds, who will seek to deduct parts of the province and its annexation to Kurdistan and the federal government, and conflicts between the Arabs of Mosul and the Kurds about the matter itself, and the potential conflict between Turkey and Iraq, which is bound to witness a realignment of Iraqi forces with each of the two disputants, a process that has existed  since now, as Turkey adopts the wing of President of Iraqi Kurdistan Massoud Barzani, the Kurdish leadership and the  Arab   trained current  for the battle of Mosul .

As well as  the existence of  a chaos of  rampant  weapon  in Iraq noting that the  popular crowd   who owns a huge amount of weapons can no longer be disarmed  under any circumstances, and Daesh war  made available   for the   Kurdish Peshmerga   more regulation and arms until it became a strong  army    . For its part, A Sunni tribal groups  are trying to catch the “arms race” in Iraq and participate in the ongoing war against al Daesh and hold the land that is to be  restored  from its fighters and in  southern Iraq  , armed clashes  took place in some areas of the  separated periods  in the range of  tribal and family  disputes  revealed about    a huge amount  of  light and medium weapons owned by Shiite clans .

And it is expected  that  the issue of misuse of weapons  will remain  exist in Iraq, and to be turned in   the post Daesh to the existential danger threatening entity of the Iraqi state, which  reached to an unprecedented degree of weakness that touched various institutions, including the security and military institutions that  had  sectarian considerations and  armed Shiite forces appeared to  compete it    and working as  a factor  to weaken it and prevent  to   rebuild it  after the semi-collapse case reached during the past years. According to the followers of the Iraqi affairs , the chaos of weapons  had its consequences  that go beyond of  its security  appearance to the political situation in the country and   what distinguishes it of the fierce  struggles on power . They assert that the weapons  attributed to factions of the popular crowd  are  in the end   weapons  belonging to the competing personalities and parties , and each one of them  has   known  militia  works  for its interest .   and they  warn that  the state of the political life in Iraq of sharp disagreements and conflicts  alarm that the struggle for positions and gains could turn into an armed conflict, especially if the war on organization of Daesh ended and  tens of thousands of fighters  have become  idle and free from work with  a huge amount of  the weapons and ammunition at their  hands .

Not to mention the competition which could be up to the level of conflict between the Iranian regime and Turkey on Iraq in general and the control on  the strategic city of Mosul to both of them in particular. the day is not far off  when the Iraqi parliament  will vote on the law, if necessary, to establish a «popular crowd» as a force independent  from  the Armed Forces   . Waiting for the parliamentary elections  after two years  ?  if the  uncalculated surprises did not  occur  in Iraq  of surprises , the representatives of «crowd»  would achieve  big victories  that secure   their control  on  the ruling Shi’ite National Alliance, so  the Iraqi citizen aspiring to build a civil state  is  not the only one who fears from  this nightmare .And not a Sunni and non-Arab people  are  alone   in fear of it . Perhaps  the ones who feared more  from  the nightmare   are  the leaders of  Shiite National Alliance  as the balance of powers within  their structure will be turned . As if the destiny of the Iraqi state since 2003 and to this day   to live    the case of the troubled state   and the  society  which is going to fall   due to its   endless  crises .

Go Iraq United 

 

[Synopsis]

Excellent and comprehensive context to the Act of the Popular Crowd, Laid Back!  This really helps to understand what the Act of the Popular Crowd is all about with the related issues that may dove tail with things like the National Reconciliation, National Guard Law, and Amnesty Law.

Thank You!

          

Edited November 19, 2016 by Synopsis

[Freedomwish]

Laid Back took me back to school, yes sir! Thanks! 

[Officiallytook]

LB I got to the middle and started looking for a link to vid the article, good Shiiet my friend good read, thanks, and yota

[sandfly]

Thanks 

[yota691]

20-11-2016 12:31 PM

Legal representative: the House of Representatives Sicheraa a number of laws, especially the popular crowd

 

 

 

He said in the parliamentary legal committee member, on Saturday, the House of Representatives, will begin a series of laws, especially the popular crowd Act. 

And the sound Shawki The 'first bill we will proceed to implementation is a popular crowd Act, and we're going to vote on this law,' referring to the The 'legal committee has several important laws after it was legislation judicial supervision and prosecution Act ,which the Supreme judicial Council Act, the Federal Court and the law of the five - year vacation for state employees and law advisers, as well as other laws and all these laws are of interest to the legal Committee'. 

as ruled Shawki legislation all those laws in the current chapter of the legislative Parliament, on the grounds that the House 's efforts will focus on the draft financial budget law for 2017 in order to pass it and then proceed with the legislative recess and that would be 30 days and therefore will leave those laws to the legislative Chapter II, which will be in the 1.1 - 2017 '. 

the House of Representatives approved a proposal to include the popular crowd Act for a vote in the 26 session of the month after the end of the visit , a ceremony Arbain.

[King Bean]

There it is, straight from "a committee members" mouth. They've had two readings of the 2017 Budget. Then they took a two week break, even though they know they have all these other laws sitting there needing review and a vote. So they will be back the 26th to focus on the budget, just in time to take a 30-day break (or longer). These folks could care less about their country. Poor folks getting ready to live out the winter in tents. God Bless them for living under the rule of fools.

[nannab]

Amen King Bean.

[markb57]

I believe Sandfly said a couple times in other threads and I am starting to believe it.  2018

[10 YEARS LATER]

10 hours ago, King Bean said:

There it is, straight from "a committee members" mouth. They've had two readings of the 2017 Budget. Then they took a two week break, even though they know they have all these other laws sitting there needing review and a vote. So they will be back the 26th to focus on the budget, just in time to take a 30-day break (or longer). These folks could care less about their country. Poor folks getting ready to live out the winter in tents. God Bless them for living under the rule of fools.

YES ! I agree completely KB - well stated ! 

Sometimes I can't help but think, as close as we seem to be to realizing ( before the end of 2016 [or so] ) the RV; these Nimrods will find a way to screw it up.

Then here we go again, into 2017 with delays, excuses and reasons why they need to take more time off pushing the whole damn mess to who knows how far out into 2017 !

I want  to be proven so very wrong on this - come on GOI, PLEASE PROVE MY MISGIVINGS WRONG. Your citizens deserve better from you . . . and oh by the way, WE'D LIKE TO BE OFF THIS ROLLER COASTER RIDE - - - " ENUFF IS ENUFF " 

[yota691]

Parliament: Saturday session will see the adoption of the popular crowd Act

History of edits:: 11/22/2016 13:47 • 77 visits readable

[Where - special] 
said the parliamentary legal committee member Salim Chawki, said Tuesday, " The meeting on Saturday will see the adoption of the Law of the popular crowd."

He said Shawki told all of Iraq [where] that "the House of Representatives Select next Saturday corresponding to the 26th of November this date for the adoption of the popular crowd Act, after the political blocs by consensus". 
He pointed out that " the law preserves the rights and privileges of the children of the popular crowd through regulatory that the process of law, as well as that this law goes all tongues , which describes the popular crowd militias or the charges against her over charges of working for the benefit of other countries. " 
He noted the legal member of the parliament that" the popular crowd Act is quite different from the National Guard Act. " 
said Deputy for coalition forces that the coalition had given his opinion the law of the popular crowd and said that on the 26th of this month which will vote on the law and agree everyone about it, and everyone agrees on the presence of the crowd clan in this law, and therefore there is no objection to him. " 
the House of Representatives approved a People crowd the law proposal to a vote by the inclusion in the 26 session of the month after the end of the visit , a ceremony Arbain.

[Bama Girl]

Content removed. Got my days mixed up, I am on vacation in more ways than one. 😕😌☺️

[Synopsis]

The article states, ""the House of Representatives Select next Saturday corresponding to the 26th of November this date for the adoption of the popular crowd Act, after the political blocs by consensus".

I am excited about this coming Saturday, November 26.  Baghdad is nominally 1/3 of a day ahead of the Continental US so we can wake up to the middle to end of their working day and find out what is happening through the end of their working day.  I think likely they will have some key things from their "must be done" list moved to their "done" list by end of day.  There may be more news about the progress of the retaking and extermination/expulsion of ISIS from Mosul, too, to give an indication of when Mosul may be declared as taken back entirely from ISIS.  Based on the other news articles, I suspect the announcement that Mosul is retaken will kick off another flurry of parliamentary action.  Also based on the other news articles, I suspect from now to year end could see significant accomplishments in Iraq's progress leading up to our much anticipated event.

[TexasMike1958]

Here is what will happen.....Parliament meets Saturday, vote on PCA, take a break until at least Tuesday.  Nothing will be done about HCL.  They might vote on budget, but probably not.  Sorry but this has been their pattern for years now.  Work a few hours, take at least a week off.  I hope I am wrong. 

[markb57]

They take their time because they can. Pure and simple. The govt is still living in the lap of luxury, one that we would be envious of.  The govt has been given billions to keep afloat with no accountability, internal or external. They really have no concern for the common population of the country. That is just the way they are. That is their mindset. They'll continue to poor mouth and have their hands out indefinitely because that truly is the way they think. 

I believe they will rv.....someday. Until then, we wait. I am putting more faith in Iran rv'ing long before Iraq. 

[King Bean]

4 hours ago, TexasMike1958 said:

Here is what will happen.....Parliament meets Saturday, vote on PCA, take a break until at least Tuesday.  Nothing will be done about HCL.  They might vote on budget, but probably not.  Sorry but this has been their pattern for years now.  Work a few hours, take at least a week off.  I hope I am wrong. 

Gave you a greenie Mike. By THEIR OWN ADMISSION they state there are many important laws sitting in Parliament. Some for YEARS, like the HCL. Yet month after month, they meet a day or two, take an extended break. They can't get out of their own way. Give me rubies, but their history speaks. If their people and country were so important, they would be meeting 6 days a week. And they would show up to voice concern. They can barely make a quorum. They do the bare minimum to make it look like they are doing SOMETHING. It's pathetic. January through June they met 1/3 of available work days. I bet its less these last 6 months of 2016.  Not being negative as much as being a realist.

[DoD]

5 hours ago, TexasMike1958 said:

Here is what will happen.....Parliament meets Saturday, vote on PCA, take a break until at least Tuesday.  Nothing will be done about HCL.  They might vote on budget, but probably not.  Sorry but this has been their pattern for years now.  Work a few hours, take at least a week off.  I hope I am wrong. 

TexasMike, I feel your pain brother but will have to disagree with you on what will happen Saturday. Remember, they can't go on their 30 day break until the budget is approved...I'm thinking these lazy thieves will not only vote the budget in but also the PCA as you mentioned. Wouldn't put money on the HCL because to much corruption still in Kurdistan....

[yota691]

Deputy Legal Committee: blocks correspond to the popular crowd Act and approval hearing on Saturday

Wednesday 23-11-2016 | 9:32:24

 

 

 

 

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Twilight News MP from the parliamentary bloc citizen and member of the parliamentary legal committee Salim Chawki / said on Wednesday that "the House of Representatives session on Saturday will see the adoption of the law of the popular crowd."

He MP Shawqi said in a statement responded to the Twilight News, that "the House of Representatives Select on Saturday approved (the 26th of November this) as the date for the adoption of the Law of the popular crowd, after the political blocs agree."

The MP pointed Shawki in his statement that "the law preserves the rights and privileges of the children of the popular crowd through the regulatory process to this law, in addition to that this law goes all tongues, which describes the popular crowd militias or the charges against her over charges of working for the benefit of other countries."

Shawki pointed out that "the popular crowd Act is quite different from the law of the National Guard."

[ChuckFinley]

Thanks Yota. Keeping an eye on this group over the weekend. 

[yota691]

National Alliance set a deadline of the political blocs to adopt the popular crowd Act

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November 23, 2016
 

 

  

Treasures Media / Baghdad ..

MP for the coalition of state law Muwaffaq al-Rubaie, Wednesday, that the National Alliance would give political parties two days to pass the popular crowd Act, confirming its ability to pass the law by an absolute majority without the need for consensus.

Rubaie said in a statement that "the National Alliance would give the opposition political blocs to recognize the popular crowd Act at a hearing on the 26th of this month, just two days to pass the popular crowd Act," noting that "the coalition is able to pass the law by an absolute majority without any political consensus."

Rubaie added that "the adoption of semi-settled and separated for some time passed, no more law, but the alliance insists on giving a last chance for political partners in contributing to political decision.

[TexasMike1958]

How about they set a deadline of YESTERDAY to pass the amday HCL!!!!!!  Would mean a elluvahay lot more if they would do that than this other whatever thing they are going to pass.

 

[rkpdwp]

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