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#1 Cabletech911

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:21 PM

See file for redenom examples and why they took place as well and what actions they took. This should also explain why we are not in the same boat and the lop theory is not valid for Iraq...

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 01:36 PM

So.. would you compare Romania's tactics to re-denomination to the new Leu before also switching to Euro, the same as Iraq printing new money with security features before it RI/RV?
Yes, taking off zero's would be technical, and it does state that the new currency will not work if the economy cannot sustain the new rate... Seems to leave it pretty open to many possible outcomes.
And obviously if they do it too quickly then you will see inflation (like russia) in 1999. I guess I'm just trying to better understand the "Stabilization Program" that these countries like Bulgaria/Poland/Israel used to see the positive effects of the currency re-denomination. If the troops are leaving as fast as people say they are then is all the restructuring complete? Any extra explanation is appreciated. Thanks

Also, have other people been buying some of these other currencies before they switch to Euro if we know they will have a successful re-denomination?
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 02:21 PM

So the chart showing they removed zeros, makes me think lop, but the chart showing they had time to switch them out makes me think we'll have time to cash in, and then they move to new currency without all the zeros.....is that correct?
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 02:59 PM

Thank you for adding that. I wanted to see something just like that. Great work!!!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:21 AM

See file for redenom examples and why they took place as well and what actions they took. This should also explain why we are not in the same boat and the lop theory is not valid for Iraq...

The linked article was really good at explaning revaluation by lopping. I also understand the processes that need to be in place to make this change effective. But could someone please more clearly explain to me WHY lopping is not logical for Iraq? I'm still not understanding the correlation.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:32 PM

If you want to see an example of re-denomination of the US currency, or at least that's the same scenario that the IQD will take under the same form of government (Democracy). First there was the large denoms, $500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 and $100,000 and then came the small denoms. Now check the history out on the Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia....States_currency


Can anyone show me where the $1,000 dollar bill became the same value as the $1 dollar bill? I think not, but in bring in the low denoms into circulation, the low denoms were injected and the high denoms were dejected and it was such a smooth process as to not shake up the currency system that it is not even mentioned in the history of the transition taking place. In my own opinion, it is exactly what will transpire with the IQD! So all of the deletion of the three 0's I think is nothing but smoke trying to get us to give up our IQD! Remember this is IMHO! Great post CableTech, thanks for your hard work!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:43 PM

While we are on this subject, these articles was already posted in August, and September. I tried to copy and paste them but they won't let me do it, sorry.


http://www.iraq-busi...iraqi-currency/


http://www.iraq-busi...ty-for-the-cbi/

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:50 PM

I need a lightbulb emotie!! Thank you, Blue-Duck!! Those last two links explained a lot behind the rationale. I appreciate the help!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 01:16 PM

No problem, Upgradable, this particular subject continues to come up as new people see the article on the XE about redenomination and that article misleads if we don't know the history. Automatically people jump to the lop theory and if you stick around you will see explanations going the way, one of the things about lopping is done in the case of super high inflation. Iraq is very low in inflation, approximately 3 to 4 percent, the lowest inflation on earth of any nation. So I think Iraq is in good shape and we are in good shape as investors!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 01:39 PM

No problem, Upgradable, this particular subject continues to come up as new people see the article on the XE about redenomination and that article misleads if we don't know the history. Automatically people jump to the lop theory and if you stick around you will see explanations going the way, one of the things about lopping is done in the case of super high inflation. Iraq is very low in inflation, approximately 3 to 4 percent, the lowest inflation on earth of any nation. So I think Iraq is in good shape and we are in good shape as investors!
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If I remember correctly redenomimation is done AFTER a period of hyperinflation when things stabilize.....which unfortunately for us is where Iraq is now....hopefully that's not what they are thinking!!!
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 01:46 PM

What level of inflation constitutes hyper-inflation?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 09:48 AM

If I remember correctly redenomimation is done AFTER a period of hyperinflation when things stabilize.....which unfortunately for us is where Iraq is now....hopefully that's not what they are thinking!!!



I don't think US govt will invest 400 million dollars a day in a country which is gonna LOP or simply redenominate. Don't forget all int'l companies jumping into this arena.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:03 AM

What level of inflation constitutes hyper-inflation?


Hyperinflation is empirically measured at figues exceeding:

  • 10% per day,
  • 50% per month, or
  • over 25% per annum, compounded.

This does not apply to Iraq, as any current figures upon research would verify.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 11:02 PM

So does this mean we are still looking for and RV soon?
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 11:46 PM

While we are on this subject, these articles was already posted in August, and September. I tried to copy and paste them but they won't let me do it, sorry.


http://www.iraq-busi...iraqi-currency/


http://www.iraq-busi...ty-for-the-cbi/

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Wow...reading the comments on this second article from the deweaver character, that's a really heart-wrenching conspiracy theory I had never considered...
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Posted 26 December 2010 - 12:43 AM

See file for redenom examples and why they took place as well and what actions they took. This should also explain why we are not in the same boat and the lop theory is not valid for Iraq...

good read ty,! considers our similar concerns
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 08:57 PM

documents show a lop then RV so if now we have 25K dinar with rate 1170IQD = 1USD after re-denomination we will have 25 new dinar with rate 1.170IQD = 1 USD and then the new dinar will RV to 3 IQD = 1 USD
current IQD money flows are 26 trillion IQD. And it said this can strength into 80billion USD (http://dinarvets.com...omic-exchanges/). if iraq RV at 1IQD = 1USD it will have 26 trillion USD. This sound like BS to me.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:31 PM

I don't think US govt will invest 400 million dollars a day in a country which is gonna LOP or simply redenominate. Don't forget all int'l companies jumping into this arena.

Michel



Its not about their currency to our govt......its about the resources and the oil......he who controls the oil, controls the world......international companies are not worried about it either.....they are going to be paid in their own countries currency, not dinar.....
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 08:06 AM

See file for redenom examples and why they took place as well and what actions they took. This should also explain why we are not in the same boat and the lop theory is not valid for Iraq...


This is a good post. I have just posted a response to another thread.
In regard to the the UK pound, I indicated what happened at home.
It is a good lesson in how countries transform.

You can read the document here at this link.

http://www.ecu-activities.be/documents/publications/publication/1994_3/moore.html

http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/52168-30-day-to-cash-in/page__st__20__p__363246__fromsearch__1&#entry363246

Best Regards..
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 05:12 PM

See file for redenom examples and why they took place as well and what actions they took. This should also explain why we are not in the same boat and the lop theory is not valid for Iraq...



is it just me or do these country have nearly no natural assets(like iraqis 150+ billion barrels of oil)

and

is it just me or did these countries NOT get forgiven for the debt from MULTIPLE other nations!!!


COME ON GUYS, stop talkin about lop crap!!!!!! its pure BS....fabricated BS
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