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Our decent into an openly socialist country is gaining speed almost daily.

With the "Supreme" court twisting the plain English content of an ACA rule to include officially recognizing the fed government as a "State". The government was formed to act only as a third disinterested party to decide conflicts between states. It's other function was to provide a seamless protection of our borders.

If the government is now recognized as having it's own statehood, equal to the member states of the usa, the new rules, regulations, and policies that are about to be issued from the dictator may well quickly lead us into an openly socialist country.

I honestly never imagined I would ever live to see this happening.....DM

 

 

United States of America Becomes the Newest Socialist Country
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The Supreme Court of the USA has now become the latest branch of the ObamaGov to legislate illegally.  We no longer have 3 co-equal branches of government.  As the Republicans have shown for—at least—the past several months, the people of the former USA no longer have any voice in government.  Despite constituents “burning up the phone lines” to their Republican Congress members and Senators telling them to vote NO on TPA—which gives Obama virtually unlimited and unchecked power to do anything he wants with this treaty and likely those to come—they voted YES in a large majority.  Like their Marxist Democrat brothers and sisters, the RINOs have chosen to ignore their constituencies and do that which benefits them—not us.

 

With its two major decisions on Thursday 25 June 2015 and Friday 26 June 2015, SCOTUS has now shown us that CJ Roberts decision to rewrite ObamaCare in his first anti-Constitutional decision—and now the decision to uphold this monstrous piece of legislation announced Thursday—was not a fluke.  With this decision—supported by the RINOs—the American people were told again that they no longer have any choice in their healthcare and that the government will force them to buy it—irrespective as to whether or not they can afford it—and they will pay for it…or else.  So, they had better get used to it as their masters have spoken.  The USA has become a Socialist form of government.  As a Note, Roberts also rewrote this one to say that the word “State” could mean one of the 50 States or the massive federal government State!  It depends what your definition of “is”...is.

With Friday’s decision to remove States’ rights from the actual 50 States and give the federal government the right to determine who can marry and whom or what they can marry, the Communist Goals set out for the USA are virtually complete.  The ruling minority has won over the majority in the USA, because they placed their operatives in virtually all strategic positions necessary to rule over a population however they want…because the rest of us were actually working to better ourselves and our country.  Will the 50 States rise up against this oppression and usurpation of their authority under the now-nearly dead US Constitution?  Or will they be part in parcel in digging its grave?

We are now in the newest Socialist country on the planet and will soon go complete Communist.  BTW, with respect to these same Communist goals and what’s currently happening with our police forces, you may find it of interest to read #18.  It is “Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. The ObamaGov has changed it slightly, in that local PDs are being turned into social agencies.

We’ve pretty much reached the end of the road, comrades, although I suspect the ObamaGov has some upcoming intensely disturbing and debilitating-to-us-all surprises up its sleeves.  Now that all 3 branches of the US government have turned solidly against We-the-People, the repeal—without our consent—of the Bill of Rights (starting with the Second Amendment) will occur shortly.  The repeal efforts are already said to be underway.

Will Americans finally rise up against their oppressors or will they continue—as did Nazi Germany—to ignore it and “hope” it gets better.  Even history no longer seems to matter to some, as they keep repeating the same patterns that got them into trouble in the first place…and they never seem to correct it for very long.  Thank God it won’t be long now before He returns!

“The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace”—Isaiah 59:8”

“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”—Matthew 7:16

Communist Goals [for America] of 1963

 

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We've been sold out by every branch of the government for quite awhile. Now, the "New Normal" rises up, coming fast, hard and in our face. The noose tightens around the American Citizen. For ALL those that have said  . . . "it could never happen here", it's happening. Oh, it's happening brother. The fabric of American society is being torn to shreds right along with the Constitution & the Bill of Rights.

 

When O said he was going to fundamentally transform America,what the hell did you all think he really meant ? It sure wasn't lost on me, nor I say many of you here on this forum. Still, many have their head in the sand, up their butt or feeding at the government trough to care one way or the other.

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I'm reeling in disbelief, The White House lit up like a f----- rainbow ! God Help Us Please ! They want to take one of the my flags that I hold dear to my deep southern roots and it ain't about hate ! They want to erase history, take down all of the Confederate flags and put up rainbows......Yes I am sick of these SOB's ! I would gladly fight in another Civil War to protect what I am and who I am. I guess next The Feds want to take down my family's tombstones that proudly have the Confederate Flag etched upon. READY !  

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Ignorance and chaos rule the day, TEXSTORM.  Both are hallmarks of EVIL.

 

 

 

Would that these 'celebrants' only see what path they have placed a once Great Republic on... it's shameful.

 

A Republic which could NEVER have been, were their twisted 'values' and lack of REASON at it's inception.

 

 

 

Their ignorance blinds them to the fact that the manner in which they expect their 'choices' to unfold is

 

actually contrary to LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

 

 

 

You can't fix 'stupid'.

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Thanks Sgt ! I believe in constitution of family, everything that this administration is doing is an all out attack on the American Family. I'm tired of them trying to ram it down our throats. I personally don't give a rats A.. about who is *** or not it's their own business between them and God,  but it doesn't mean that I have to accept it or be inconvenienced by their public behavior.   

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Satan wanted to be equal with God. The US supreme court considers itself above God. Generally, a really bad idea.

Yea, it didn't work out to well for the,"Angel of Light". 

 

We've been sold out by every branch of the government for quite awhile. Now, the "New Normal" rises up, coming fast, hard and in our face. The noose tightens around the American Citizen. For ALL those that have said  . . . "it could never happen here", it's happening. Oh, it's happening brother. The fabric of American society is being torn to shreds right along with the Constitution & the Bill of Rights.

 

When O said he was going to fundamentally transform America,what the hell did you all think he really meant ? It sure wasn't lost on me, nor I say many of you here on this forum. Still, many have their head in the sand, up their butt or feeding at the government trough to care one way or the other.

I knew what he meant, but I didn't imagine that we would ever witness the 

 

events of the last few days. The rule of law no longer exist in America. One thing is clear,

 

the law is only good if people are willing to obey it. Our leaders have now taught us as a 

 

nation that it's ok to break the law and go your own way if doing so serves your goals. 

 

What kind of effect do you think that's going to have on the people? 

 

I'm reeling in disbelief, The White House lit up like a f----- rainbow ! God Help Us Please ! They want to take one of the my flags that I hold dear to my deep southern roots and it ain't about hate ! They want to erase history, take down all of the Confederate flags and put up rainbows......Yes I am sick of these SOB's ! I would gladly fight in another Civil War to protect what I am and who I am. I guess next The Feds want to take down my family's tombstones that proudly have the Confederate Flag etched upon. READY !  

They want us to retaliate against them. DON'T DO IT!

 

Don't give the idiots the pleasure of controlling you. We need to search out 

 

our God and his will. Because I really don't think that the one who,"restrains" 

 

is going to be around much longer. 2Thessalonians2-6

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"restrains" - Misunderstood plus hundreds of years behind its reality, referring to 2Thessalonians2-6”   

 

Rebellion Against True Worship

13 Paul said that this man of lawlessness would develop along with apostasy. In fact, the first clue Paul gave as to the identity of this lawless class is that “the day of Jehovah [when Jehovah destroys this wicked system of things] . . . will not come unless the apostasy comes first.” (2 Thessalonians 2:2, 3) But what is meant by “apostasy”? In this context, it does not mean just a lapse or a falling away due to spiritual weakness. The Greek word here used for “apostasy” meant, among other things, a “defection” or a “revolt.” Several translations render it as “rebellion.” William Barclay’s version states: “That day cannot come until the Great Rebellion has taken place.” The Jerusalem Bible calls it “the Great Revolt.” Therefore, in the context of what Paul is discussing, “apostasy” means a revolt against true worship.

 

14 How did this apostasy, this rebellion, develop? At 2 Thessalonians 2:6, Paul wrote, regarding his day, about “the thing that acts as a restraint” on the lawless one. What was that? It was the restraining force of the apostles. Their presence, with their powerful gifts bestowed by holy spirit, prevented apostasy from then becoming an epidemic. (Acts 2:1-4; 1 Corinthians 12:28) But when the apostles had died, by about the end of the first century, the restraining brakes were removed.

 

Unscriptural Clergy Class Develops

15 The congregation that Jesus established developed during the first century under the guidance of elders (overseers) and ministerial servants. (Matthew 20:25-27; 1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) These were drawn from the congregation. They were capable spiritual men with no special theological training, just as Jesus had no such training. Indeed, his opponents wondered: “How does this man have a knowledge of letters, when he has not studied at the schools?” (John 7:15) And concerning the apostles, the religious rulers observed the same: “Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. And they began to recognize about them that they used to be with Jesus.”—Acts 4:13.

 

16 However, the apostasy brought in concepts derived from the Jewish clergy and eventually from pagan Rome’s religious setup. As time went by and the turning away from true faith took place, an unscriptural clergy class developed. A crowned pope began ruling over a college of cardinals, who in turn were drawn from hundreds of bishops and archbishops, who in turn were promoted from seminary-trained priests. Thus, not long after the first century, a mystic clergy class took over in Christendom. This class was not patterned after the first-century Christian elders and ministerial servants but was patterned after pagan religious systems.

 

17 As early as the third century C.E., ordinary believers had been relegated to the second-class status of laity. The apostate man of lawlessness gradually assumed the reins of power. This power was solidified during the reign of the Roman emperor Constantine, especially after the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E. Then Church and State became welded together. Thus, the man of lawlessness—the clergy of Christendom—became a centuries-long line of apostates in revolt against the true God, Jehovah. The laws and arrangements that they have followed are their own and not God’s.

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GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE  ME.............a mandated real crappy national insurance policy and where weirdoes can marry each other!!!

Sarcastic sad & true.

I always thought I would" go down with the ship"....and I probably still will...but a second passport is looking more and more appealing all the time!!! :o/

I'm with you dude!

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We as a country a doomed. The supreme court has drunk the Kool aid and this country is in for a fall...

 

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Our White House loses its dignity and solemnity bathed in circus lights like the sideshow attraction these

kommies have turned it into....

 

It takes some time to set up a light display like that -- so how did hobummer and moochelle know how the SCOTUS was

going to rule on this issue far enough in advance to pull off this undignified crass display...?

 

Exactly, HAYMON --- the SCOTUS has gone to the kommie dogs.

 

 

 

SCREAM BLOODY MURDER TO Tear down The Confederate Flags take 'em off EBay and pull them from store shelves ---

 

BUT BY ALL MEANS KEEP SELLING

 

THE CHE GUEVARA SHIRTS !  

 

LEAVE UP THE STATUE OF LENIN ON OUR SOIL !  

 

CAN'T TOUCH THE KOMMIE ICONS - BUT TEAR OUR HISTORY AND CULTURE APART...?

 

 

Raise your hand if you think CHE & Vlad loved the g-a-y community.....

 

IGNORANT  FOOLS.

 

 

 

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 The US supreme court considers itself above God.

 The supreme court has drunk the Kool aid and this country is in for a fall...

We've been sold out by every branch of the government for quite awhile..

Oh, it's happening brother.

The fabric of American society is being torn to shreds right along with the Constitution & the Bill of Rights.

I'm reeling in disbelief, 

 I didn't imagine that we would ever witness the 

 

events of the last few days.

 

We need to search out our God and his will. 

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE  ME.............a mandated real crappy national insurance policy and where weirdoes can marry each other!!!

Sarcastic sad & true.

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IGNORANT  FOOLS.

 

 

They are desperately trying to convince all Americans that anyone not content with their vision is in the minority.

We are about to be assaulted by a propaganda campaign of a scale never witnessed before in history.

We will see "opinions" in every main stream media siding with the new "policy".

Some, like fox, will try to maintain their appearance of resistance,  by printing tough worded opposition stories which have no value on their own, and are designed only to lead people down a worthless dead end, thereby eliminating those voices from the true resistance.

 

The media is only one facet of many.

There will be more paid demonstrators, demanding everyone completely embrace all things new world.

Financial incentives will be offered, organized religion will be preaching acceptance, and all "representatives" will demand obedience by the people.

 

Their control is nearly absolute.

From the food we eat, the clothes we wear, the cars we drive. and the gas we buy to make them go.

Except for some local enterprise, all commercial trade is controlled.

And those in control of everything you need for daily survival are the ones trying to destroy your way of life.

The politicians you "elected" to represent you, only represent themselves, they have been corrupted, and they believe they will have everlasting power and authority over you if they support the globalists..

 

We are now being confronted with the extinction of America.

 

What LGD said is very true, do not act out in anger.

Our only course is to petition the Lord, open our hearts, and allow the Holy Spirit to witness God's will.

 

We need to organize ourselves.

That will never be accomplished unless we have God's blessing.

With His authority, nothing is impossible.

If this is the end of days. my only wish is that before I am gone, that I will perform with honor any actions that are witness to God's authority.

If that is rising up with my brothers and sisters to fight the oppressors, or if it is God's will to do something else that I can't even imagine, my only wish is to serve the Lord.

 

In the end, this is only temporary.

The amount of human suffering around the world being perpetuated by the globalists is beyond comprehension.

What we are going through in America pales in comparison to the injustices suffered by innocents elsewhere.

From children starving to death, to children exploited, forced to endure perversion, mutilations, watch as their families are murdered, to parents forced to watch evil inflicted on their kids.

These are almost unspeakable horrors.

 

If we allow the globalists to continue, meekly accept the politicians lies, and allow America to be destroyed, what has happened around the world will be nothing in comparison to what will then take place.

 

It is already known the globalists agenda is to reduce the world population to 500,000.

That means killing 6.5 billion humans.

 

You must understand, every church is under assault by the government.

Preachers have long been threatened with financial ruin if they do not stay within governmental guidelines.

 

The solution to this problem can only come from one source.

 

Open your heart, mind, body, and behavior to God's Will.

 

If it is His will these oppressors are overthrown by us, or, if we are actually to submit to this evil for God's Plan.

Personally, I never have been one to submit meekly to anything.

There are many different types of warriors in God's arsenal.

He will call you to action if you only ask for direction.

 

DM

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"restrains" - Misunderstood plus hundreds of years behind its reality, referring to 2Thessalonians2-6”   

 

 This power was solidified during the reign of the Roman emperor Constantine,

 

Constantine is who invented the Roman Catholic Church.

His mom became a Christian, he had just come to power, and wasn't fully accepted as the ruler yet, so, in order consolidate his power he took some pagan elements, added Christian Holy days, and made it the official religion of Rome.

 

It was in the Dark Ages following the collapse of Rome, that the official church gained more power than the feudal barons, the Vatican claimed to own the entire world, was about to toss King John , made him agree to rent his monarchy, and then wrote the Magna Carta to establish their sovereignty while allowing the land grabbing slum lords now calling themselves barons legitimate claim to membership in the forming monarchy that eventually became the untied kingdom.

 

In the almost 1000 years of the dark ages the catholic church grew in power until they stared telling the little kingdoms what to do.

 

The American Founders even used the basic rights claimed by the Catholics in the Magna Carta,  as part of the basis for America.

 

That would be the individual sovereignty of every Christian, who only owed their existence to God, and were thereby granted unalienable rights in life by that very same God.

Which would be the right to live, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

 

Rights, NOT privileges bestowed by a benevolent government.

 

Thant said, I very much appreciated the restraints post.

I'm just not sure which meaning is relevant in this issue.

 

Is it the restraints forced on us by an unGodly government that we must endure, or overthrow?

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If this is the end of days. my only wish is that before I am gone, that I will perform with honor any actions that are witness to God's authority.

If that is rising up with my brothers and sisters to fight the oppressors, or if it is God's will to do something else that I can't even imagine, my only wish is to serve the Lord.


Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/204730-welcome-to-the-new-ussa/#ixzz3eODSIvRz

 

These events, and with my interaction with the people here, have helped me to grow exponentially.

 

As a Marine I was taught to, adapt and adjust to any environment, And this will be no different.

 

 

 Personally, I never have been one to submit meekly to anything.

There are many different types of warriors in God's arsenal.

He will call you to action if you only ask for direction.

 


Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/204730-welcome-to-the-new-ussa/#ixzz3eOEmQTPw

 

Exactly, that is why one must,"seek the kingdom of Heaven FIRST". 

 

If we attempt to do anything without the blessing of our Lord on it, you may be successful

 

but it will become a burden unto you. Most of the time doing something without the Lord will '

 

simply end in failure.

 

 Acts 5:39

 

But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

 

I am very hesitant to repeat something that I truly believe God has recently told me. But because of your 

 

most excellent post ,DM, I feel compelled to do so.

 

As I pray to find the will of God during these troubled times I am humbled at the overwhelming knowing

 

that the Lord is telling me to;join NOTHING. DO NOTHING. KEEP A LOW PROFILE.

 

Things like, Metashare,  a supposed Christian health insurance for unbelievable cheap prices. And they 

 

advertise how great it is because Obama gave it an exemption from the Affordable Health Care Act. 

 

Or for instance, Glen Beck's,"Mercury One" and 828 mission. Both things that I would agree with

 

on the face of it. However, I have an unbelievably strong KNOWING that these types of things are 

 

the WOLFS IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING  spoken of by the Apostles and Jesus Christ. 

 

Folks what DM is saying is more true than even he know's. The government is making a list and 

 

checking it twice. Their taking names and SOON they are going to come for those who don't 

 

agree with their way of thinking. Oh I know that many will say, IMPOSSIBLE, these are the rantings 

 

of a fool. We live in a civilized society. Well I say to you that it is the nature of man to commit 

 

evil on one another, and what I've just described has happened MANY times in the past. For my

 

military brothers let me explain it in their vernacular,

 

YOU DON'T PUT ON A CONDOM UNLESS YOU INTEND TO .........

 

Our government intends to do something and they are clearly advertising their intentions.

 

Unless it's a, rope a dope. In which case only God knows what will come next.

 

As DM so eloquently stated seek the will of God in all things.       

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That's why we 'OlGals -- like 'OlSarge  before us - will speak our minds for those who cannot, LGD --

 

 

we're old, we're on our way out,

 

we're NOT afraid to be dragged off by the commie mafia who hijacked Our Republic --

 

 

We're goin' screamin' n' kickin' every inch of the way !  Hollerin'  Truth  for all to hear !

 

 

We may be dead ducks about to be tossed into some FEMA camp oven, but we'll preach it, Brother !

 

 

And they stand to gain little from our demise...

 

 

If they are SO desperate and vile and paranoid as to fear 2 little 'ol ladies' Freedom of Speech,

 

then many have much to learn from how WE will get treated by them.....

 

Come n' git us, you commie cowards !  :angry:  :angry: 

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 Acts 5:39

But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

 

that the Lord is telling me to;join NOTHING. DO NOTHING. KEEP A LOW PROFILE.

 

 

A very powerful verse, and one that is in the hearts and minds of every Christian in America.

It was because of the pastor's acceptance of the progressive agenda that I realized the organized church as, for me, a distraction, from my spiritual growth with God.

Your warning is valid.

The Democratic Party owns the Tea Party of Florida web site.

Tea Party Patriots was started by the same law firm that handled Bush Jr's elections campaigns.

Of the remaining "patriot" sites, over 60 % are owned by companies and individuals in the Netherlands.

 

At one time I had several different web sites, specializing in everything from exposing politicians corruptions, researching American history relating to organization of the Northwest Territories, the Articles of Confederation,(prelude to the constitution), and exposing religious hypocrisy towards Christianity.

Then, around 2009, I was directly targeted by obviously multiple entities.

There was an extreme backlash.

Even had some idiot trying to form an army to wage war on America.

Cancelled the sites, and deleted all the records of all the membership.

 

Defiantly refrain from joining any club, organization, or from giving out your personal information.

But that said, I absolutely am on the ladies side....

 

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Come n' git us, you commie cowards !  :angry:  :angry: 

 

Gonna scream it from a mountain top if that's what it takes.

 

Gonna talk to any that will listen.

 

Praying hard everyday.

 

"Please, Dear God, show me what I need to do."

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We hear ya, BrotherDIVEMASTER:tiphat:  :twothumbs: 

 

Very interesting your post re: how the fix is in where evil is concerned.... your post reminds us of some of 'OlSarge's own

 

battle stories from his own attempts to get the word out in his battle against the same tyrant(s)....

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Very interesting your post re: how the fix is in where evil is concerned.... your post reminds us of some of 'OlSarge's own

 

battle stories from his own attempts to get the word out in his battle against the same tyrant(s)....

 

I hadn't been on DV very long when he passed away.

I remember we connected immediately.

I was very sorry to see him go, but for purely selfish reasons.

There was so much more to discuss.

His suffering is over, and his eternal life with God has just begun.

You guys are an honor to his legacy.

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DIVEMASTER -- We had no idea, but we can certainly see why...

 You two are peas in a pod, brothers in Arms . Fellow Patriots ! :tiphat:

 

Thank you for sharing this... and for your kind words.  

 

We try to 'keep him' around here for all who loved him, and we feel he is here somehow....

 

and we picked up his banner and began to tote it for him--- here where he laid it down...

where the last friends he ever made - and loved - are all gathered.   :wub:

 

And we feel the love right back, as his friends here at DV have made us welcome.  :)  :)

 

Our cup runneth over...  

 

 

 

 

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My two cents, for what it's worth (probably about .5 cents):

 

I knew this case was on very shaky ground as soon as I heard what the plaintiff's main argument was.

 

More or less from the beginning in the U.S. and for centuries in other countries, the term "The State" has been used as sort of an all encompassing name for the central government of that nation.

 

Hasn't anyone else ever heard of the leader of a nation, U.S. or others, referred to as "Head of State"? You could consider the cabinet position "Secretary of State" in the U.S. as well.

 

The notion that the term "The State" may refer to the central government of the United States is not something new recently invented by the current Supreme Court of the U.S.

 

Having said that, am I a supporter of the ACA, and happy for this decision? No.

 

Do I think this decision is correct because counsel for the plaintiffs pinned their case on an astonishingly weak argument?

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

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"restrains" - Misunderstood plus hundreds of years behind its reality, referring to 2Thessalonians2-6”   

 

Rebellion Against True Worship

13 Paul said that this man of lawlessness would develop along with apostasy. In fact, the first clue Paul gave as to the identity of this lawless class is that “the day of Jehovah [when Jehovah destroys this wicked system of things] . . . will not come unless the apostasy comes first.” (2 Thessalonians 2:2, 3) But what is meant by “apostasy”? In this context, it does not mean just a lapse or a falling away due to spiritual weakness. The Greek word here used for “apostasy” meant, among other things, a “defection” or a “revolt.” Several translations render it as “rebellion.” William Barclay’s version states: “That day cannot come until the Great Rebellion has taken place.” The Jerusalem Bible calls it “the Great Revolt.” Therefore, in the context of what Paul is discussing, “apostasy” means a revolt against true worship.

 

14 How did this apostasy, this rebellion, develop? At 2 Thessalonians 2:6, Paul wrote, regarding his day, about “the thing that acts as a restraint” on the lawless one. What was that? It was the restraining force of the apostles. Their presence, with their powerful gifts bestowed by holy spirit, prevented apostasy from then becoming an epidemic. (Acts 2:1-4; 1 Corinthians 12:28) But when the apostles had died, by about the end of the first century, the restraining brakes were removed.

 

Unscriptural Clergy Class Develops

15 The congregation that Jesus established developed during the first century under the guidance of elders (overseers) and ministerial servants. (Matthew 20:25-27; 1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) These were drawn from the congregation. They were capable spiritual men with no special theological training, just as Jesus had no such training. Indeed, his opponents wondered: “How does this man have a knowledge of letters, when he has not studied at the schools?” (John 7:15) And concerning the apostles, the religious rulers observed the same: “Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. And they began to recognize about them that they used to be with Jesus.”—Acts 4:13.

 

16 However, the apostasy brought in concepts derived from the Jewish clergy and eventually from pagan Rome’s religious setup. As time went by and the turning away from true faith took place, an unscriptural clergy class developed. A crowned pope began ruling over a college of cardinals, who in turn were drawn from hundreds of bishops and archbishops, who in turn were promoted from seminary-trained priests. Thus, not long after the first century, a mystic clergy class took over in Christendom. This class was not patterned after the first-century Christian elders and ministerial servants but was patterned after pagan religious systems.

 

17 As early as the third century C.E., ordinary believers had been relegated to the second-class status of laity. The apostate man of lawlessness gradually assumed the reins of power. This power was solidified during the reign of the Roman emperor Constantine, especially after the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E. Then Church and State became welded together. Thus, the man of lawlessness—the clergy of Christendom—became a centuries-long line of apostates in revolt against the true God, Jehovah. The laws and arrangements that they have followed are their own and not God’s.

I just started reading the book of Jehovah with a Jehovah witness neighbor it only took him 4 yrs . just love it

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