Jim1cor13 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) We must realize that more of these posers will be calling for this kind of action. It no longer matters what party it is, because the actions of both deny and betray their words. I am not surpised by this, but it does disappoint me. We are going to start to see more of the agenda over the next year, and it includes continued 2nd amendment issues. Little by little, we are watching the slow decay that was put into affect over 50 years ago, and I wonder how far Washington will get? Remember, what we are watching is a "ruse", yet most still cannot understand how it is conducted, much of it has roots in keeping people divided, and it works, while the steps continue behind the scenes, most still are party loyalists and refuse to see how we are and have been played for many decades. We can continue to deny this, but it will not change anything until folks understand it. These guys like Rove do not have a clue. Guns in the wrong hands are a problem, but it has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. The problem is always violent people, many who are on psych drugs, which cause additional problems as side effects that are ignored. --- Link Republican strategist Karl Rove said on “Fox News Sunday” the only way to stop gun-related violence, like the Wednesday massacre at Emmanuel African Methodist Church in Charleston S.C., was to repeal American citizens’ Second Amendment rights. When Chris Wallace asked Rove how we can, “stop the violence,” the long-time gun-rights advocate stated that we have made great strides as a nation in empathizing with the victims of these types of shootings, but the only way to guarantee they will stop is to “remove guns from society.” WALLACE: How do we stop the violence? ROVE: I wish I had an easy answer for that, but I don’t think there’s an easy answer We saw an act of evil. Racist, bigoted evil, and to me the amazing thing is that it was met with grief and love. Think about how far we’ve come since 1963. The whole weight of the government throughout the South was to impede finding and holding and bringing to justice the men who perpetrated the [birmingham] bombing. And here, we saw an entire state, an entire community, an entire nation come together, grieving as one and united in the belief that this was an evil act, so we’ve come a long way. Now maybe there’s some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. I mean basically the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen. Edited June 21, 2015 by Jim1cor13 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chess Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 THE BEST THING: MANDATE THAT EVERYONE (OF AGE) MUST CARRY A GUN, AFTER TAKING A MANDATED WEAPONS COURSE. .....AND BEING OF SOUND MIND, OF COURSE. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I yield to ronscarpa on this but what about a change of hearts to Christ. That is the only answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 agenda has roots in keeping people divided, and it works but it has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. The problem is always violent people, many who are on psych drugs, which cause additional problems as side effects that are ignored. Yup, it's called Agenda 21 That's what politics are for, dividing people, because religion wasn't splintering everyone like it was supposed to. That's the key, the 2nd has NEVER been about shooting Bambi. Now there's black people openly calling for a race war with "whitey". There's an interview I didn't bother to bring over a lady is blaming every trouble on white privilege. I'm sure she is a loyal democrat. Everyone is frustrated with the way things are, but the media and president are giving one group of people a target group to focus their frustration on. The mental health issue has been the elephant in the room for a long time. I understand they are giving pharmaceutical speed to anyone diagnosed with ADHD. Doesn't that make people taking it paranoid, delusional, and hallucinate? Just add a few gratuitous anti-white op-eds and the nut cases are going ballistic. THE BEST THING: MANDATE THAT EVERYONE (OF AGE) MUST CARRY A GUN, AFTER TAKING A MANDATED WEAPONS COURSE. .....AND BEING OF SOUND MIND, OF COURSE. Like Israel and Sweden, every adult MUST serve 2 years in the military, and they keep their automatic rifle after discharge, must keep it in working order, and are subject to activation in a national emergency. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 THE BEST THING: MANDATE THAT EVERYONE (OF AGE) MUST CARRY A GUN, AFTER TAKING A MANDATED WEAPONS COURSE. .....AND BEING OF SOUND MIND, OF COURSE. That is very reasonable chess and something one would think would have been implemented long ago. Of course, "being of sound mind" would be the challenge! Thanks chess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Everyone is frustrated with the way things are, but the media and president are giving one group of people a target group to focus their frustration on. Indeed, but most have not yet realized that their favorite media outlet is PART of the problem. The mental health issue has been the elephant in the room for a long time. I understand they are giving pharmaceutical speed to anyone diagnosed with ADHD. Doesn't that make people taking it paranoid, delusional, and hallucinate? Just add a few gratuitous anti-white op-eds and the nut cases are going ballistic. This is critical to what has been happening since the psych drugs etc., came into being. I cannot get into it now, but I have access to files from one of the BIG pharma's and they have KNOWN about the dangers from day one. It is damning evidence, yet they are heavily protected, and so far have escaped the scrutiny of most. As far as I can tell, ALL mass shootings, schools, etc., there have been anti-depressant use involved and the media will rarely report it why? Because they pay their bills via drug company commercials and will not threaten that. Yes it is THAT shallow and it IS criminal. What the pharma's are doing is beyond imagination, and they get away with it because they have bought out Washington. That is a fact and most think it is "ok". I can only say what I have learned and what I have seen as evidence is sick. I have some personal experience with this, and I have seen what the psych drugs do and how people often change shortly after starting the routine. These drugs are NOT the answer, they are part of the problem...a large part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantach Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 THE BEST THING: MANDATE THAT EVERYONE (OF AGE) MUST CARRY A GUN, AFTER TAKING A MANDATED WEAPONS COURSE. .....AND BEING OF SOUND MIND, OF COURSE. Sound mind? Why do you eliminate the demorats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Add this from the Link above...Eff Rove and the horse he rode in on !!! MOLON LABE. Guns & a Solution No matter how you feel about guns, you should find this most interesting. This may explain why there has never been an attempt on Obama. In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States . In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States , who later died from the wound. In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States . In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States . In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States . In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant. In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office. In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office. In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria in Killeen , TX. In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory. In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service. In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US . In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant. In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech. In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep.Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others. In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people. In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis . In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown , CT. As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders. SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I yield to ronscarpa on this but what about a change of hearts to Christ. That is the only answer. First, Amen. Only God can save this nation. Second, if Karl Marxist Rove wants any weapons I may or may not have he is more than welcomed to bring his fat lying Democrat Azz to Ks and try to take them. I might put down my Bible long enough to do the world a huge favor. And herein is the difference between godless liberals and true Christians. Rove would have to come to me and attempt to violate my Constitutional rite. Whereas Godless liberals hunt you down thinking themselves to be something their not. As Master Yota so clearly pointed out in his most excellent post. Tip-hat 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Quote It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. End Quote Ok.....But ( correct me if I'm wrong) the biggest domestic mass murder in the US in the last 30/ 40 years, Oklahoma City, was perpetrated by Mr. McVeigh ( sure that was a bomb and not guns) and I don't think he was exactly a Democrat....Peace out. Edited June 22, 2015 by umbertino 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 ***/// When guns are banned, only democrats will have guns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 ***/// We MUST point out that ROVE said appealing the 2nd Amendment would never happen. He does NOT believe that is the answer. The left took this and ran with it and interpreted it to mean he said we SHOULD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks Gals, the whole point of mentioning 'removing guns from society' to me is still not an answer or solution. Responsible gun owners should not be thought of as threats, so for any of these posers to say the only solution is to remove or repeal is playing the game in my opinion. Addressing the purposeful push to see people fighting each other would be a start, but it appears guns are always blamed when it is in fact a people problem, along with often unstable characters...let alone the unstable politicians who think they have the right to manage everyone's lives. Never give consent to allow any of them to run others lives, but unfortunately it is all too common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatshername Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Quote It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns. End Quote Ok.....But ( correct me if I'm wrong) the biggest domestic mass murder in the US in the last 30/ 40 years, Oklahoma City, was perpetrated by Mr. McVeigh ( sure that was a bomb and not guns) and I don't think he was exactly a Democrat....Peace out. You're correct... Timothy McVeigh was not a democrat. He was an extreme, anti-government, domestic terrorist wing nut! And that should scare the crap outa everyone because when when one of them takes a leap off the deep end... they go big! If the Second Amendment were to ever be repealed... (and Rove was not advocating that, BTW http://therightscoop.com/no-karl-rove-did-not-call-for-the-repeal-of-the-2nd-amendment-this-morning/ ), it would surely spark an anti-government revolution that would drive some (otherwise) sane people to... Go Big. Unlike the cowards who shoot at innocents in "gun-free zones" like churches, schools and movie theaters, the wing nut will focus his rage on the biggest threat to freedom... tyrannical government (and he won't be on psychotropic drugs!). My advice... don't work for the government, depend on the government or defend the government when/if the SHTF. "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hand" is not empty rhetoric to those who cherish their God-given right to protect themselves. It's a warning that tyranny will not go unanswered. Do not underestimate the lovers of freedom... and especially the wing nuts! 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moejoe Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thank You Master Yoda, You are the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 You're correct... Timothy McVeigh was not a democrat. He was an extreme, anti-government, domestic terrorist wing nut! And that should scare the crap outa everyone because when when one of them takes a leap off the deep end... they go big! If the Second Amendment were to ever be repealed... (and Rove was not advocating that, BTW http://therightscoop.com/no-karl-rove-did-not-call-for-the-repeal-of-the-2nd-amendment-this-morning/ ), it would surely spark an anti-government revolution that would drive some (otherwise) sane people to... Go Big. Unlike the cowards who shoot at innocents in "gun-free zones" like churches, schools and movie theaters, the wing nut will focus his rage on the biggest threat to freedom... tyrannical government (and he won't be on psychotropic drugs!). My advice... don't work for the government, depend on the government or defend the government when/if the SHTF. "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hand" is not empty rhetoric to those who cherish their God-given right to protect themselves. It's a warning that tyranny will not go unanswered. Do not underestimate the lovers of freedom... and especially the wing nuts! ( "and Rove was not advocating that" Thank you whatshername. I jsut heard exactly what he said and a follow up discussion. It just goes to show you to do just a bit of extra research prior to posting something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8th ID Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Thanks Yota, that was spot on. They will not come and take all of the guns in this nation at one time, not that they wouldn't try. It would almost be impossible. They will go after the ammunition first as they already have. Look at the amounts that the government has ordered. Look at what the ATF tried to do with the M855 5.56 ammo recently. Look at the bans on foreign ammo now in the most popular calibers. This isn't over folks. They will keep banning ammo types, possession and manufacture. They will tell you that you can keep your guns, you just can't have the ammo. Look at the "ammo shortage" now. We were told it was because of military production for the Iraqi war. Well I am sorry folks, I don't buy all of that, not now. We are talking about one of the greatest industrial nations in the world. Why are there still shortages and limits on some calibers of ammo? As they say, "Follow the Money". Look at the groups that are buying the weapons and ammo manufactures right now. They lead back to one person, George Soros. That is why when people ask me what caliber weapon they should get, I tell them to get something that the gov't uses. The way I look at it is if the SHTF and the gov't does something really stupid, then I should be able to keep my weapons fed. Commons calibers are 9mm and .40 cal for pistol and 5.56 for rifle. You may find 7.62 (.308), since it is still used. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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