Ted Cruz: what you need to know about America’s first 2016 candidate

[TPSprayduster]

Why all the hating on the Italian newscaster, just because he does not paint a peachy picture of Ted Cruz, he is a communist and a troll.  Alot of people do not like Tuff Ted and to bash those who bring this to the off topic should not be crushed.  JMO.  You don 't have to worry about liberals who dislike Ted, the GOP will run him into the ditch.  Just like the libertarians torpedoed Mitt Romney, the moderates will blast Ted.  I guess Ted is the next big hope, well the current congress could not deliver and you expect a conservative to be elected President.  Maybe in 2020.  As for 2016, we have no hope.  Not going to blow another 5K to attend a circus (convention) like in 2012.

[Markinsa]

So...according to you....posting anything but the far right party line here makes someone a troll.

 

No, that's not it. First of all, he's posting from italy and he's Italian.  He's not a US Citizen but he frequently makes post, which as I have said numerous times, have a Communist/Socialist/Far Left slant, concerning US Politics. He posts it and walks away, leaving everyone to fight about it and he doesn't participate in the follow up.  What does that sound like to you?  He doesn't like the drama? Really???? Down south we say he doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

 

Now, with all that said, I have been researching on my own and have found "The Telegraph" is a UK Conservative news outlet, it is very likely, the OP Article has a conservative origin,  But again, it is divisive.  Which side is Umbertino on?

 

Let me also qualify and say, this is MY OPINION, and may or may not reflect the opinions of others on DinarVets.

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Why all the hating on the Italian newscaster, just because he does not paint a peachy picture of Ted Cruz, he is a communist and a troll.  Alot of people do not like Tuff Ted and to bash those who bring this to the off topic should not be crushed.  JMO.  You don 't have to worry about liberals who dislike Ted, the GOP will run him into the ditch.  Just like the libertarians torpedoed Mitt Romney, the moderates will blast Ted.  I guess Ted is the next big hope, well the current congress could not deliver and you expect a conservative to be elected President.  Maybe in 2020.  As for 2016, we have no hope.  Not going to blow another 5K to attend a circus (convention) like in 2012.

 

No, this is his overall posting history in Off Topics and the Political Forums.

 

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[ocdude]

Why does he have to have a side??

 

Why can't he just post things for information...maybe his articles tend to slant to the left because there is no shortage here of articles slanted very far to the right.

 

 

Balance anyone?

[temperament5]

Agreed ocdude.  There is no need to take a side on an article brought over.  There are plenty of articles in different forums with no opinions from the person that posted....their intent is to only bring information over.

[pattyangel]

Well Mark, your correct in your definition of a troll...primary intent to provoking others in a emotional response...

 

As long as I been here, it would be nice to hear a posters (Umbortino's) opinion every now and then.  As for me, he does create some disturbing responses from some members.  I really think he enjoys the bitterness between the American people. 

 

Sometimes, its just best not to respond. 

 

But his music is pleasant. 

[10 YEARS LATER]

The mold has been broken with the election of the Kenyan born, Indonesian citizen . . . or was he born in Hawaii ? The paperwork looks a bit "fuzzy".

[Artitech]

When did supporting the constitution and the founding fathers make you hard right? Your real lucky, I'm not using a phone and a pen!! Because there would be a lot of people looking for some work and would be glad to sweep a floor for $5.00 an hr. or they would starve to death! If I was in charge! I'm personally sick of all the hanger on er's! The progressive, communist crowd need take a hike and find a new pad! Don't like the U.S. constitution, Then I have major problems with your ilk! JMHO!   

[TPSprayduster]

Well, i just heard that Ted Cruz has signed up for obamacare as well.  LOL, all of that hell raising and he still took the money.    Since his wife took a leave of absense from Goldman Sachs he had to sign up too.  Dam and Double Dam.

[Markinsa]

Well, i just heard that Ted Cruz has signed up for obamacare as well.  LOL, all of that hell raising and he still took the money.    Since his wife took a leave of absense from Goldman Sachs he had to sign up too.  Dam and Double Dam.

 

Have you done your taxes?  I did mine the other day, and I had to fill out whether I had Health Insurance or not or I'd have to pay a fine.  Last year, I filed HOH and claimed my sister who's been unemployed for 2 years.  I couldn't carry her on my insurance policy, so it looked like I would have to jump through hoops to claim her on my tax return because she couldn't afford Obamacare, so I had to change my filing to Single.  That cost me about $400.

 

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[Artitech]

WELL said Jim!! I thought feedom of speech was one of the things that Americans hold dear above all else, but it appears to me that far too many on this forum ha ve become polarized with a one-sided view of things in the world, and simply knee-jerk attack anyone with a differing, or unpopular opinion without at least breaking things down logically and discussing them as adults...I don't agree with much of what Umbertino posts, but I do take the time to read and think on what he has shared.....Thanks Umbert, and keep 'em coming!!

Freedom of speech, as long as it fits the progressive communist view point! Liberals or progressives don't believe in free speech! A knee jerk reaction come from zero university just about two weeks ago, Don't believe me. Go check the news! Some drunk college kids were saying some very bad things! there are a lot of bad things said, that offend me but all I do is tune it out. Burning the U.S. flag and other bad things are done to the flag, right on college campuses, nothing is done or said. Oh its just free speech! Don't do it in front of me, because you might not like my free speech!  The N word to me means Shiftless, Lazy and Good for Nothing (total Sorriness) I don't care what color you are! If that shoe fits I have NO use for you! I hear blacks refer to themselves as the N word, all the time. Does that make it right? NO! If the N word is so offensive then NOBODY should be using it, PERIOD! JMHO Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!! Free Speech, only if your a liberal progressive KNOTHEAD! All others keep your mouth shut go to work and pay your TAXES!!!! 

[millionaire in training]

He likes to fart in a room full of people then walk out and close the door behind him.

 

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Wow Mark       Thats a funny saying.    Never heard that one before.    

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Like we said before,

UMBE is our crazy anarchist uncle we keep locked in the basement and only let out on Holidays.

Everybody's got one.........    

[KingGebus]

Cruz is the equivalent of swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the other. Republican firebrands might want this type of person to be their nominee (and i'd wager every dime I have Ms Clinton does as well), but he cannot win a general election.

 

If he gains any traction during the primary and turns the primary into a bloodbath that isn't 100% focused on debate & discussion of hammering out a sound economic policy & start fixing your fiscal mess, he'll force Paul, Christie & possibly Bush, who, in my opinion, are the only republicans (currently talking about running) who have a realistic chance of beating Clinton, so far to the right, it'll be damn near impossible for them to be elected. If the Republicans get bogged down in wedge issues again like they did 4 years ago, there's no electorial path to the white house.

 

You need to win Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa and one of Pennsylvania or Florida. There aren't many other realistic paths to victory.

 

From where I sit, the US needs a realistic & pragmatic (read: Libertarian) fiscal conservative in the white house. Cruz might be a fiscal conservative, but he is far too idiological, and therefore unelectable.

 

But I'm Canadian, so wtf do I know.

Edited March 24, 2015 by KingGebus

[softwalker]

Umbertino floods this forum with posts which appear intended to deflect our attention from the main purpose of the forum.  All the music posts and off topic posts take up a lot of space.  What I don't understand is what his intention is for doing this.  Political? Yes. But it also seems to serve to just fill up space and shift the real articles down pretty far on the Recent Posts list.  That sounds like a troll to me. 

 

His numerous posts can sometimes be as annoying as all those offensive ads. And I think he doesn't respond to his posts because he tries to hide his true intent to cause division amongst the members.  He doesn't want to get kicked off the forum.  Is he really a foreigner or does he just pretend to be one?  Hard to tell.  Anyone can fake a foreign ID. 

[umbertino]

So let me get this straight. Umbertino has been here almost 5 years, has never been disrespectful towards anyone, does not bully, belittle, argue, nor write with venom, yet he gets targeted for being a 'communist' and a 'political troll'? What would he be if he blindly agreed with all the other 'political trolls'? A person of unblemished character? The logic makes little sense, judging someone in this fashion. At least he understands manners and respectfully interacting with others, without resorting to insults, which to me is worth FAR more than how he thinks or does not think about politics or any other subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, or lack thereof, upon which one can respectfully agree or disagree without the label.

Grazie  to you and others here who showed empathy  and objectivity . It's much appreciated.

 

I try  to put articles that  I deem ( I can be wrong at times, even many times, I suppose..I'm just a human being like all of you guys) interesting somehow... Since this Forum is composed mainly by US Folks I try to put   some / many articles  about US facts / issues ( but not only about  the US as it can be easily checked).......I am certainly aware  of the fact  that one cannot be liked  by just  everybody ( we all would love that, right?) but that is not going to happen and surely not on a Forum... We all know that ( I do) and we accept that ( I do)...

 

Everybody has obviously the full right to deem me whatever they want to deem me....I try to respect everybody here ( mostly, I think, except maybe Gurus, I concede that...smile).. I try not to belittle anybody here  no matter how different and distant our views might be... If sometimes my mere reporting of articles is perceived as lack of respect and /or offense I can only say and assure you that's not my intention......

 

Markinsa wrote that  in one of the first posts  ( if I recall correctly) that he finds odd ( or something like that) i post US news articles even though I'm not a US Citizen  and also that it's strange ( or something like that) that I don't defend my positions ( or something like that)..

 

Now  this is a recurring theme / issue  from  time to time... I'll willingly try to say again what I had tried  ( maybe not clearly enough)

 to express once or twice in the past...

 

On not being a US Citizen.. Yes, everybody knows that....So We have to understand here if a non-US Citizen is allowed  ( I'll comply as I always do with forum rules...no prob at all) to report US news articles or not....I like thinking there's no such ban yet. If it will be decided differently, then I'll comply

 

About me not defending  "my" positions.. I usually post articles written by various folks/ journalists (many  of them US Citizens)  usually ( true, no prob  for me to say it) with  leftist perspective ( but not every time.. ..).. I mean they're not written by myself....The "not defending  "my" positions thing" comes from the fact that I know  that whenever I post US news politically / socially oriented articles , me being a non-US Citizen could ( and   here's proof ) create issues... I had written once about this   that I'd just report the US news article (  many times with a leftist perspective  as here many are from a right  / conservative perspective) without commenting said articles, without me personally meddling and then Folks on Forum would talk and debate article if they deem it worth commenting..Once or twice in the past  someone  had  written that I as a non-US citizen had practically no right in reporting politically oriented US articles, let alone commenting  on them  so I chose to withdraw from that.... Plurality of political articles / views I'd think is a positive thing.So I limit to just the mrere reporting of articles and mostly do not comment on them.

 

 Grazie for the attention to this rather long post  I do realize that but I wanted to make a few points clear.. I tried at least.

 

 I respect everybody here no matter how different we might be in our views. I made friends with some ultra right members here. No prob as long as there's respect and no belittling...Peace out

Edited March 25, 2015 by umbertino

[DinarCash]

Softwalker, I have to agree with your statement. 

 

Umbertino, I haven't been here long, but what I've noticed is that you tend to draw attention to yourself on the articles you do post regarding the US political agenda.  But you do not balance your articles out.  You do not flip the coin and bring in another view.  I'm also saying your articles tend to appear to be a division tactic.(my opinion) 

The American people are struggling, yes we can see this, but for an outsider/foreigner to contribute to more of the division, is beyond me.  Please don't deny the fact that you tend to lean toward these type of articles.  Don't hide behind the fact that you're bringing information over for the betterment of the American people. Foreigners don't know what's best for America, only the American people can decide what's best. 

 

With respect Umbertino, be aware that you will be ridicule by members if you continue to contribute to the division of the American people.    

[Jim1cor13]

You are a class act Umberto. By your own words and your

manners, you have done what many here are not able to

do, and that is be respectful, whether or not you agree or

disagree with them. It is very easy for some to hide behind

a keyboard and bash anyone that does not agree with their

views, unfortunately. It only shows their own insecurities by doing

so in my opinion.

 

My definition of disturbing responses as mentioned in an above

post would certainly be what we all have seen on this board in response to

most of the politically charged threads posted here. That means

everyone who posts a thread that receives an emotional response

is a 'troll'? This is how twisted the logic is here by some. I will stand

up for what is right and fair, no matter if I agree with the person being

accused or not.

 

Perhaps a day will come when we will learn not to take ourselves so

seriously that we can actually have constructive discussion without resorting to

school yard tactics of group ambush and bullying.

 

Dinarcash, in all due respect, I think the american people themselves contribute

enough to our own division without blaming or targeting any member here.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Jim1cor13

[TPSprayduster]

No, that's not it. First of all, he's posting from italy and he's Italian.  He's not a US Citizen but he frequently makes post, which as I have said numerous times, have a Communist/Socialist/Far Left slant, concerning US Politics. He posts it and walks away, leaving everyone to fight about it and he doesn't participate in the follow up.  What does that sound like to you?  He doesn't like the drama? Really???? Down south we say he doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

 

Now, with all that said, I have been researching on my own and have found "The Telegraph" is a UK Conservative news outlet, it is very likely, the OP Article has a conservative origin,  But again, it is divisive.  Which side is Umbertino on?

 

Let me also qualify and say, this is MY OPINION, and may or may not reflect the opinions of others on DinarVets.

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No, this is his overall posting history in Off Topics and the Political Forums.

 

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Mark, JMO everyone is spun up because they post something about Ted not in a good light.  Now if this was obama i would understand the norm.  But Ted?  Is he the savior of america?  i don't think so, i watch him rise to the top and i believe after getting lambasted by Democrats and Moderate GOP he will flame out quickly.  Just like Herman Cain, 999 and poof he was gone.  I hope not the same will happen to Ted, but since he has talked so much jazz about the affordable care act and he signs up and take the money.  Again all i can say is DAM.

[Markinsa]

Umbertino floods this forum with posts which appear intended to deflect our attention from the main purpose of the forum.  All the music posts and off topic posts take up a lot of space.  What I don't understand is what his intention is for doing this.  Political? Yes. But it also seems to serve to just fill up space and shift the real articles down pretty far on the Recent Posts list.  That sounds like a troll to me. 

 

His numerous posts can sometimes be as annoying as all those offensive ads. And I think he doesn't respond to his posts because he tries to hide his true intent to cause division amongst the members.  He doesn't want to get kicked off the forum.  Is he really a foreigner or does he just pretend to be one?  Hard to tell.  Anyone can fake a foreign ID. 

 

 

If you don't like the Music Posts showing up in the "What's New?" list, see this Topic: Filter by Forum Option [NEW FEATURE]

 

 

As for the rest of this topic: 

 

I have given my opinion and naturally everyone is entitled to voice theirs.

 

You have someone that frequently posts articles that everyone gets excited and upset about.  Call that person whatever you wish, I have provided a definition for it above.  

 

My point of aggravation is my government is not operating the way it should and it is frustrating to me.  Then this same person posts a negative article about a US Senator, whose is attempting to honor his commitment to his constituents (me).  Sure he's rubbed people the wrong way and many may not agree with him, but at least he hasn't fallen in line with the status quo and towed his party's line.  He may not be the person I vote for President, but I sure would be nice to have someone with his values and character in the Whitehouse.

 

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[TexasGranny]

Mark, JMO everyone is spun up because they post something about Ted not in a good light.  Now if this was obama i would understand the norm.  But Ted?  Is he the savior of america?  i don't think so, i watch him rise to the top and i believe after getting lambasted by Democrats and Moderate GOP he will flame out quickly.  Just like Herman Cain, 999 and poof he was gone.  I hope not the same will happen to Ted, but since he has talked so much jazz about the affordable care act and he signs up and take the money.  Again all i can say is DAM.

 

What damned money are you talking about? Ted Cruz and his wife are using the exchange because they are complying with the law as it is now. If you think Cruz is going to qualify for some subsidy, you obviously know nothing about the law. I would also bet that the amount he pays in premiums, deductibles, co-pays, etc. will be a whole lot more than when his wife covered the family through her job.

 

I would also bet that you have never met Ted Cruz or his Father personally so you have no idea of the character of the man. Geesh! people like you are the problem with the Republican party.

 

 

[millionaire in training]

 Umbertino has been here almost 5 years, has never been disrespectful towards anyone, does not bully, belittle, argue, nor write with venom .

I have to say everyone is entitled to their opinion. And even though there are some members on this site that I disagree with their way of thinking  I just move on because it's just not worth the argument .

 

In the time that I've been a member of this site Umbertino's been one of the nicest members that I've come across.  I don't get a chance to read all the things that he posts cause I simply just don't have the time.

 

But  I have to agree with Jim1cor  he has always been a very nice person, sweet, kind, considerate and endearing towards others and for that I am grateful and appreciate him. 

 

Just my 

[Whatshername]

Umbertino... We are not a PC crowd.  That's a very good thing.  You will never have to wonder what most of us are thinking... We'll tell you!  And we will intellectually defend our positions.  You either can't or won't and THAT is what we find upsetting.  Your threads reek of leftist BS.  YOU live in a Utopian society... do you bring your beliefs and real-world experience to the discussion?  No.  Can you articulate your position on anything?  Who knows?  You're MO is kind of passive/aggressive... critical and divisive with other people's words (commie articles) but all Mr. PC Nice Guy to our faces.  This behavior breeds suspicion and mistrust.  But the fact that you're still here is proof that DV enjoys a healthy debate and freedom of speech.  Join us!  You're comfortable enough to bring it up... Why not talk about it? 

How would you like it if one of us made it their daily mission for five years (32 THOUSAND posts?!!!) to dredge up the worst, most distasteful and accusatory articles about Italy?  Drive-Bys of Filthy Lies... that you're racist and selfish and you want to destroy the earth!  Even a prole like you wouldn't take that lying down!  Why should we?  Them's fightin' words!  

We need MORE SPEECH... Not less.  You have a unique (to us) perspective.  We'd like to hear it!  Would you consider joining the conversation?  When posting articles, would you make an effort to choose ones that you are prepared to intellectually defend and then do so if asked?  

Let's try, starting with this original post...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/11490420/Ted-Cruz-what-you-need-to-know-about-Americas-first-2016-candidate-and-worst-Winston-Churchill-impersonator.html

"He’s an Ivy league 'Wacko Bird'...."   Those are the first 6 words!  The content of the article is equally snarky and absolutely NOT "what you need to know" (as the title implies) about Ted Cruz. 

 Umbertino... Does this represent the conversation you would like to start?

[truthis]

Wow just wow. When he post things about Italy Europe its who cares we are Americans. So he post things about US and other things only what is lefty is sticking out in some people . There is plenty right stuff on this forum as he mentioned and there is. Bout mark said so nicely US goes and farts around the world and we don't say excuse me or sorry. What we do here has global affect just remember that please

[Artitech]

Judge not, lest you be judged.

Wm13

I never Judge, but the Good Lord Jesus gave me spirit of discernment! 

[Shabibilicious]

So Red Rider officially threw his hat in the presidential ring.......this should make the "lunatic fringe" all giddy.     I'm jealous.....I really thought I had cornered the market on acting like a child.  I stand corrected, well done everybody.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[dog53]

Umbert is the most politest communist I have ever met.

Let him post his opinion pieces. 

For me reading his post only confirms my beliefs in this country's idea of freedom. 

 

Wow TP still whinning over that 5 Grand you dropped on the convention all those years ago.

You have been bitter every sense 

Dude let it go for god sake.  

hahahahahahahahaha