Ukrainian Deputy: US behind the civil war in Ukraine - not Russia - from 11-20-2013

[Jim1cor13]

While so many believe the official narrative of what happened in Ukraine

beginning in Feb. 2014, this video purports to show it was in fact the US

inciting much of it. That would mean it was not Russia as so many have

claimed. My own research places the time frame of this alleged facade during

the Sochi Olympics, but in the planning well before the games in 2013 which

supports the video time frame.

 

The US tactics were to use 'social networks' to incite unrest among other tricks

of the CIA trade. When will we realize who the enemy actually is? The translation

is below. This video is from Nov. 20, 2013, well before the February 2014 show began.

Decide for yourself who to believe, and who is actually behind the unrest. At least this 

fellow tried to warn his countrymen of who the enemy was. A real shame so many do

not care about an issue such as this, because it is a PATTERN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Translation of speech:

Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the word

Honourable Colleagues
Honourable Vladimir Vasiljevitch

In my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people…
…activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me…
…providing clear evidence…
…that within our territory…
…with support and direct participation
…of the US Embassy in Kiev…
…the "TechCamp" project is realised…
…under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.

The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare…
…and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media…
…potential revolutionaries…
…for organising protests…
… and the toppling of the State Order.

The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility…
…of the US ambassador to Ukraine…
…Geoffrey R. Pyatt.

After the conversation with the organisation "Volya“…
… I have learned…
…that they succeeded to access Facilities in the project "TechCamp“…
…disguising as a team of IT specialists.

To their surprise, briefings on peculiarities of modern media were held.

American instructors explained how social networks and Internet technologies…
…can be used for targeted manipulation of public opinion…
…as well as to activate protest potential…
…to provoke violent unrest on the territory of Ukraine…
…Radicalisation of the population and triggering of infighting.

American instructors show examples of successful use of social networks…
…used to organise protests
…in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.

"TechCamp" representatives currently hold conferences throughout Ukraine.

A total of five events have been held so far.

About 300 people were trained as operatives, which are now active throughout Ukraine.

The last conference "TechCamp" took place on 14 and 15 November 2013…
…in the Heart of Kiev on the territory of the US Embassy!

You tell me which country in the world would allow…
…a NGO to operate out of the ​ US Embassy?

This is disrespectful to the Ukrainian government, and against the Ukrainian People!

I appeal to the Constitutional Authorities of Ukraine with the following question:

Is it conceivable that representatives of the US Embassy…
…which organise the "TechCamp" Conferences…
…misuse their diplomatic mission?

–– Let him speak ––

Carry On

UN Resolution of 21 December 1965 regulates…
…inadmissibility of interference in the internal affairs of a state…
…to protect its independence and its sovereignty…
…in accordance with paragraphs one, two and five.

I ask you to consider this as an official beseech…
…to pursue an investigation of this case
Thank You!

 

 

 

 

 

[Maggie123]

Good find Jim...Thank You.

 

Gives even more confirmation for what a lot of us already knew...and yes it is a PATTERN!

 

I'd like to join with you and others who have a conscience about the despicable things that our government is and has been doing in our name...and say...I CARE!!!

 

I wish we could tell the people of Ukraine and Russia "this is not being done by our will or with our consent".

 

When are enough Americans going to wake up/speak up to make a difference?

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[thegente]

When are enough Americans going to wake up/speak up to make a difference?

 

 

To answer your question Maggie, when they start to use their brains, and begin once again think for themselves, stop being lazy and actually research something instead of idiotic knee-jerk rhetoric reactions, and start questioning what the Gub, MSNBC, FOX, or whatever crap MSM hypno-garbage they watch daily...That about cover it??

Edited January 28, 2015 by thegente

[temperament5]

Jim, thanks for the post. The U.S. Is at fault for this unrest.. Like you said there is information out there that speaks the truth we just have to dig for it.

[Maggie123]

To answer your question Maggie, when they start to use their brains, and begin once again think for themselves, stop being lazy and actually research something instead of idiotic knee-jerk rhetoric reactions, and start questioning what the Gub, MSNBC, FOX, or whatever crap MSM hypno-garbage they watch daily...That about cover it??

 

Yep...that about covers it Gente ...and I am sick of all the laziness and willful ignorance too!

 

Folks know better...yet keep going to the trough to gobble it up...they'd rather be entertained with that crap instead of actually finding or looking at the truth...which isn't that hard to find! Guess some figure it's better NOT to look at that...might mean going against the flow...might mean getting really angry and frustrated ...might mean actually getting off our lazy arses and DOING something about it. We had better hold more people accountable though...or they are going to pull us all down with them. There is no excuse anymore for being uninformed.

 

Time to come together and call folks out that parrot all this divisive crap thrown at us everyday. JMHO

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[thegente]

Well said Maggie...the elites and their puppets LOVE when they can divide Americans on the smallest of non-issues, it keeps the People pointing fingers at phantioms and ignorant over their massive debt slavery scheme which is at the root of nearly ALL of our problems here in this country.

Edited January 28, 2015 by thegente

[Maggie123]

Yep...and the MSM is their best tool to get that job (division) accomplished....

 

So I say MSM is not part of the problem...it is THE PROBLEM with keeping our society lame.

 

 

My New Hashtag,,,

 

#BreakYourTV

Oh wait... I almost forgot...here is my fave...

 

#EndTheFed

 

Love That One

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[thegente]

Agreed...if you research it, I believe that in the 80's there were something like 200 companies or more that owned most of the MSM...now it's down to like 6 or 7 mega corps that own them all...quite telling.

[Maggie123]

Telling indeed...Murdock even bought into one of my favorite sources...VICE News.

 

Now I keep a hawk eye on them...I guess you have to with any media...alternative or not.

 

Gente...gotta tell you...I really appreciate everything you bring in...High Five!!!

 

I've enjoyed Zero Hedge ever since you introduced me to it...Much Appreciated.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[thegente]

Thx Maggie, you're very welcome. Only way to wake others up is the sharing of info and ideas....have a good nite, gotta hit the rack....

[Maggie123]

Me Too Gente

 

Hey maybe it would be good if...cough...er...um...hint...hint...Someone started a thread with good links to alternative news sites... I'll be glad to contribute the ones I know about.

 

Just a thought....Nite Gente.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[Shabibilicious]

Or is it possible Russia got the jump on everybody and planted this evil U.S. seed so they could carry out their mission of reconstructing the USSR under the guise of peace keeping and the protection of the Russian language?  How quick we are to side with our old enemy.  I for one, don't speak Russian and would need a Russian speaking person (face to face) to confirm what I just read.  Some will say I'm not thinking clearly.....I say, maybe there's another option.  As always, just my opinion.    

 

GO RV, and NO BV 

[Jim1cor13]

Thank you for the thoughts and feedback everyone.

 

For months now I have been suspecting the US involvement due to

its timing and too many patterns from the past.

 

Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc., just as the gentleman mentioned in his speech, gives the

glimpse of such a pattern. I posted the info because nothing should be ignored, and

one of the reasons so much is ignored is due to most people often simply believing

what is repeated over and over in the 'news'. I choose to look at both sides, it is the

only way to come to some sort of balance instead of immediately jumping to any

conclusion until enough info is found and confirmed to be accurate. What I have found

is NOT what the news has told people. I have found inconsistencies in too many reports,

in addition to the timing of the unrest during the time of the Sochi olympics, then finding this

video of this Ukraine gentleman, well before the event, seemed to point to what I had

suspected for awhile, and have stated the US had their hands involved and it was 'sprung'

during the Sochi time period. This stinks to me.

 

I agree with you Shabs for sure, that we should look at both sides. It is all we can do, and as

far as translation goes, I checked that also, and it appeared to be in sync. I had the same

problem with it as you did Shabs being cautious about the translation part, but as far as I can tell,

it is accurate. All i could do was post the info, in order to bring out that once again, an event appears

to have been instigated by our own, and if that is what happend, which it appears it did, then we must

pay attention to other matters that have happened, and how there is a pattern found. Thanks so much

Shabs for how you approach these issues, and for your thoughts. For sure, we never know fully what

each party has done or not done behind the scenes, but so far, I have found so much that points to

agreeing with what was stated in this video and a host of other reports I have looked over. By the way

Shabs, I apprecaite your clear thinking and the way you approach matters, because it is fair, and

both sides must always be weighed, instead of the typical one sided reactions. thank you for that

 

Maggie and thegente, thank you for your input also. Indeed, on the surface and quite a ways below it,

there is something not at all right, and I think we have known this for some time. The reactions to Putin,

the near immediate sanctions, the demonizing of Putin on the mainstream press, made me look in the

other direction as I often do, and what I have found over months of research makes me sad. The shadow

gov. and its players are doing a lot of things in the name of the american people that I would never support,

and that is just wrong. Then there was the overwhelming support in the congress I believe that was nothing

short of declaring a war like stance...this made me sit up and take notice that certainly something smells, and

I do not want these actions done in my name if the US fomented yet another unrest leading to yet MORE

conflict. It is tiring, and I do not like being lied to. There IS a shadow type gov. and this has been discussed

over the last 50 years or more from some of our own presidents, it involved military cooperation with executive

and legislative support that often no one knows anything about, and this is wrong. I also appreciate the manner

in which you guys think, because you are not afraid to ask questions and look into matters.

 

It also involves using the news and social networks often along with actual paid 'shills' that purposely attempt

to stir up people on those forums, and this too is done in a deceptive manner in order to garner support for

things that we should not agree to. Thank you again for all your thoughts...all great points, and it helps all of us

to seek what is true and disgard what are lies...at this point, far too many lies and follow up actions that point

to a deeper involvement than we may have understood.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Jim1cor13

[Shabibilicious]

Jim, I've learned much from you and your intricate research.....and I look forward to your posts.  I also appreciate very much the quiet and calm demeanor you employ when stating your case.  It helps when trying to sort through the information to have a calm head, rather than a knee jerk reaction commonly resorted to because the poster feels threatened or belittled.  I'll continue to watch and use alternate news sources with regards to world issues.  I can't in good conscience sit here and say I'm not suspect of Putin and his lackeys first and foremost......but I will certainly put the effort forth to look from outside the box to reach some semblance of that which appears to be truth.  As I've said before, you're one of the good ones and a valuable asset to this forum.    

 

GO RV, and NO BV

[Jim1cor13]

Thank you Shabs. That means a lot coming from you. i am just "me"

and I think it is important to treat everyone with respect and kindness,

whether I agree with them or not.

 

Seeking for truth in matters is very important to me, and I always try and

look at all sides. I know there is so much we do not 'know', and we should never

conduct ourselves as if we do, because that is just fooling ourselves.

 

I appreciate you also Shabs, you know that, for the very reasons I stated, because

you are fair and you have always been kind and considerate, and that tells me a lot

about you and your words you use. Life has been tough lately, always nice to

receive a comment that doesn't tear one apart and makes one feel welcomed.

 

Thanks again my friend...you made me tear up a bit, but that is just "me". 

Edited January 28, 2015 by Jim1cor13

[thegente]

Thx Shabs and Jim...What has made me suspicious over the whole "Russian bad guy" mantra we've heard recently was that it pretty much coincided with Russia wanting to dump the dollar and trade either in gold or directly in their own currencies. Funny how anyone who wants to use real money (hint: GOLD) and not Federal Reserve notes are suddenly our enemies....just follow the $$, every time.

 

 

[Jim1cor13]

Very good point thegente...yet another pattern and you are spot on with

your comment. I have actually been looking for trouble with ALL the BRICS

in one way or another for the last several years due to knowing they were

slowly making a path away from the USD. We are seeing it happen, along with

what I can tell, are calculated events pointing a finger at them, while everyone

gangs up on them never questioning the facts.

 

The pattern is clear...Iraq, Libya, with Syria and Iran following soon...just to name

a few, and the pattern is any leader who actually begins taking payment in something

other than the USD for oil, etc., places a target on the back of those who would take

those steps. Following the money is very wise...it tells stories, and often leads one

to specifics that otherwise may be difficult to find.

 

Thank you thegente

[thegente]

Thx Jim, it's plain to see if people would just think instead of reacting.

 

On a side note, I just popped into my profile and noticed that about 80% of the topics I've posted are locked....Hmmmmm. Guess some people prefer to have their head in the sand and their ears tickled I guess....

[thegente]

Here's a really good article that explains the hows and whys of what's going on between Russia and the Western Governments:

http://orientalreview.org/2014/12/25/grandmaster-putins-trap/

 

 

Grandmaster Putin’s Trap

Thu, Dec 25, 2014

Russia, United States

By Dmitry KALINICHENKO (Russia)

Accusations of the West towards Putin are traditionally based on the fact that he worked in the KGB. And therefore he is a cruel and immoral person. Putin is blamed for everything. But nobody ever accused Putin of the lack of intelligence.

Any accusations against this man only emphasize his ability for quick analytical thinking and making clear and balanced political and economic decisions.

Often Western media compares this ability with the ability of a grandmaster, conducting a public chess simul. Recent developments in US economy and the West in general allow us to conclude that in this part of the assessment of Putin’s personality Western media are absolutely right.

Despite numerous success reports in the style of Fox News and CNN, today, Western economy, led by the United States is in Putin’s trap, the way out of which no one in the West can see or find. And the more the West is trying to escape from this trap, the more stuck it becomes.

What is the truly tragic predicament of the West and the United States, in which they find themselves? And why all the Western media and leading Western economists are silent about this, as a well guarded military secret? Let’s try to understand the essence of current economic events, in the context of the economy, setting aside the factors of morality, ethics and geopolitics.

Development of crude oil prices.

After realizing its failure in Ukraine, the West, led by the US set out to destroy Russian economy by lowering oil prices, and accordingly gas prices as the main budget sources of export revenue in Russia and the main sources of replenishment of Russian gold reserves. It should be noted that the main failure of the West in Ukraine is not military or political. But in the actual refusal of Putin to fund the Western project of Ukraine at the expense of the budget of Russian Federation. What makes this Western project not viable in the near and inevitable future.

Last time under president Reagan, such actions of the West’s lowering of oil prices led to ‘success’ and the collapse of USSR. But history does not repeat itself all the time. This time things are different for the West. Putin’s response to the West resembles both chess and judo, when the strength used by the enemy is used against him, but with minimal costs to the strength and resources of the defender. Putin’s real policies are not public. Therefore, Putin’s policy largely has always focused not so much on effect, but on efficiency.

Very few people understand what Putin is doing at the moment. And almost no one understands what he will do in the future.

No matter how strange it may seem, but right now, Putin is selling Russian oil and gas only for physical gold.

Putin is not shouting about it all over the world. And of course, he still accepts US dollars as an intermediate means of payment. But he immediately exchanges all these dollars obtained from the sale of oil and gas for physical gold!

To understand this, it is enough to look at the dynamics of growth of gold reserves of Russia and to compare this data with foreign exchange earnings of the Russia coming from the sale of oil and gas over the same period.

Moreover, in the third quarter the purchases by Russia of physical gold are at all-time high record levels. In the third quarter of this year, Russia had purchased an incredible amount of gold in the amount of 55 tons. It’s more than all the central banks of all countries of the world combined (according to official data)!

In total, the central banks of all countries of the world have purchased 93 tons of the precious metal in the third quarter of 2014. It was the 15th consecutive quarter of net purchases of gold by Central banks. Of the 93 tonnes of gold purchases by central banks around the world during this period, the staggering volume of purchases – of 55 tons – belongs to Russia.

Not so long ago, British scientists have successfully come to the same conclusion, as was published in the Conclusion of the U.S. Geological survey a few years ago. Namely: Europe will not be able to survive without energy supply from Russia. Translated from English to any other language in the world it means: “The world will not be able to survive if oil and gas from Russia is subtracted from the global balance of energy supply”.

Thus, the Western world, built on the hegemony of the petrodollar, is in a catastrophic situation. In which it cannot survive without oil and gas supplies from Russia. And Russia is now ready to sell its oil and gas to the West only in exchange for physical gold! The twist of Putin’s game is that the mechanism for the sale of Russian energy to the West only for gold now works regardless of whether the West agrees to pay for Russian oil and gas with its artificially cheap gold, or not.

Because Russia, having a regular flow of dollars from the sale of oil and gas, in any case, will be able to convert them to gold with current gold prices, depressed by all means by the West. That is, at the price of gold, which had been artificially and meticulously lowered by the Fed and ESF many times, against artificially inflated purchasing power of the dollar through market manipulation.

Interesting fact: the suppression of gold prices by the special department of US Government – ESF (Exchange Stabilization Fund) – with the aim of stabilizing the dollar has been made into a law in the United States.

In the financial world it is accepted as a given that gold is an antidollar.

• In 1971, US President Richard Nixon closed the ‘gold window’, ending the free exchange of dollars for gold, guaranteed by the US in 1944 at Bretton Woods.
• In 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin has reopened the ‘gold window’, without asking Washington’s permission.

Right now the West spends much of its efforts and resources to suppress the prices of gold and oil. Thereby, on the one hand to distort the existing economic reality in favor of the US dollar and on the other hand, to destroy the Russian economy, refusing to play the role of obedient vassal of the West.

Today assets such as gold and oil look proportionally weakened and excessively undervalued against the US dollar. It is a consequence of the enormous economic effort on the part of the West.

And now Putin sells Russian energy resources in exchange for these US dollars, artificially propped by the efforts of the West. With which he immediately buys gold, artificially devalued against the U.S. dollar by the efforts of the West itself!

There is another interesting element in Putin’s game. It’s Russian uranium. Every sixth light bulb in the USA depends on its supply. Which Russia sells to the US too, for dollars.

Thus, in exchange for Russian oil, gas and uranium, the West pays Russia with dollars, purchasing power of which is artificially inflated against oil and gold by the efforts of the West. But Putin uses these dollars only to withdraw physical gold from the West in exchange, for the price denominated in US dollars, artificially lowered by the same West.

This truly brilliant economic combination by Putin puts the West led by the United States in a position of a snake, aggressively and diligently devouring its own tail.

The idea of this economic golden trap for the West, probably originated not from Putin himself. Most likely it was the idea of Putin’s Advisor for Economic Affairs – doctor Sergey Glazyev. Otherwise why seemingly not involved in business bureaucrat Glazyev, along with many Russian businessmen, was personally included by Washington on the sanction list?  The idea of an economist, doctor Glazyev was brilliantly executed by Putin, with full endorsement from his Chinese colleague – Xi Jinping.

Especially interesting in this context looks the November statement of the first Deputy Chairman of Central Bank of Russia Ksenia Yudaeva, which stressed that the Central Bank of Russia can use the gold from its reserves to pay for imports, if needed. It is obvious that in terms of sanctions by the Western world, this statement is addressed to the BRICS countries, and first of all China. For China, Russia’s willingness to pay for goods with Western gold is very convenient. And here’s why:

China recently announced that it will cease to increase its gold and currency reserves denominated in US dollars. Considering the growing trade deficit between the US and China (the current difference is five times in favor of China), then this statement translated from the financial language reads: “China stops selling their goods for dollars”. The world’s media chose not to notice this grandest in the recent monetary history event . The issue is not that China literally refuses to sell its goods for US dollars. China, of course, will continue to accept US dollars as an intermediate means of payment for its goods. But, having taken dollars, China will immediately get rid of them and replace with something else in the structure of its gold and currency reserves. Otherwise the statement made by the monetary authorities of China loses its meaning: “We are stopping the increase of our gold and currency reserves, denominated in US dollars.” That is, China will no longer buy United States Treasury bonds for dollars earned from trade with any countries, as they did this before.

Thus, China will replace all the dollars that it will receive for its goods not only from the US but from all over the world with something else not to increase their gold currency reserves, denominated in US dollars. And here is an interesting question: what will China replace all the trade dollars with? What currency or an asset? Analysis of the current monetary policy of China shows that most likely the dollars coming from trade, or a substantial chunk of them, China will quietly replace and de facto is already replacing with Gold.

Are we witnessing the end of dollar era?

In this aspect, the solitaire of Russian-Chinese relations is extremely successful for Moscow and Beijing. Russia buys goods from China directly for gold at its current price. While China buys Russian energy resources for gold at its current price. At this Russian-Chinese festival of life there is a place for everything: Chinese goods, Russian energy resources, and gold – as a means of mutual payment. Only US dollar has no place at this festival of life. And this is not surprising. Because the US dollar is not a Chinese product, nor a Russian energy resource. It is only an intermediate financial instrument of settlement – and an unnecessary intermediary. And it is customary to exclude unnecessary intermediaries from the interaction of two independent business partners.

It should be noted separately that the global market for physical gold is extremely small relative to the world market for physical oil supplies. And especially the world market for physical gold is microscopic compared to the entirety of world markets for physical delivery of oil, gas, uranium and goods.

Emphasis on the phrase “physical gold” is made because in exchange for its physical, not ‘paper’ energy resources, Russia is now withdrawing gold from the West, but only in its physical, not paper form. So does China, by acquiring from the West the artificially devalued physical gold as a payment for physical delivery of real products to the West.

The West’s hopes that Russia and China will accept as payment for their energy resources and goods “shitcoin” or so-called “paper gold” of various kinds also did not materialize. Russia and China are only interested in gold and only physical metal as a final means of payment.

For reference: the turnover of the market of paper gold, only of gold futures, is estimated at $360 billion per month. But physical delivery of gold is only for $280 million a month. Which makes the ratio of trade of paper gold versus physical gold: 1000 to 1.

Using the mechanism of active withdrawal from the market of one artificially lowered by the West financial asset (gold) in exchange for another artificially inflated by the West financial asset (USD), Putin has thereby started the countdown to the end of the world hegemony of petrodollar. Thus, Putin has put the West in a deadlock of the absence of any positive economic prospects. The West can spend as much of its efforts and resources to artificially increase the purchasing power of the dollar, lower oil prices and artificially lower the purchasing power of gold. The problem of the West is that the stocks of physical gold in possession of the West are not unlimited. Therefore, the more the West devalues oil and gold against the US dollar, the faster it loses devaluing Gold from its not infinite reserves. In this brilliantly played by Putin economic combination the physical gold is rapidly flowing to Russia, China, Brazil, Kazakhstan and India, the BRICS countries, from the reserves of the West. At the current rate of reduction of reserves of physical gold, the West simply does not have the time to do anything against Putin’s Russia until the collapse of the entire Western petrodollar world. In chess the situation in which Putin has put the West, led by the US, is called “time trouble”.

The Western world has never faced such economic events and phenomena that are happening right now. USSR rapidly sold gold during the fall of oil prices. Russia rapidly buys gold during the fall in oil prices. Thus, Russia poses a real threat to the American model of petrodollar world domination.

The main principle of world petrodollar model is allowing Western countries led by the United States to live at the expense of the labor and resources of other countries and peoples based on the role of the US currency, dominant in the global monetary system (GMS) . The role of the US dollar in the GMS is that it is the ultimate means of payment. This means that the national currency of the United States in the structure of the GMS is the ultimate asset accumulator, to exchange which to any other asset does not make sense. What the BRICS countries, led by Russia and China, are doing now is actually changing the role and status of the US dollar in the global monetary system. From the ultimate means of payment and asset accumulation, the national currency of the USA, by the joint actions of Moscow and Beijing is turned into only an intermediate means of payment. Intended only to exchange this interim payment for another and the ulimate financial asset – gold. Thus, the US dollar actually loses its role as the ultimate means of payment and asset accumulation, yielding both of those roles to another recognized, denationalized and depoliticized monetary asset – gold.

Traditionally, the West has used two methods to eliminate the threat to the hegemony of petrodollar model in the world and the consequent excessive privileges for the West.

Map of Coloured revolutions

One of these methods – colored revolutions. The second method, which is usually applied by the West, if the first fails – military aggression and bombing.

But in Russia’s case both of these methods are either impossible or unacceptable for the West.

Because, firstly, the population of Russia, unlike people in many other countries, does not wish to exchange their freedom and the future of their children for Western sausage. This is evident from the record ratings of Putin, regularly published by the leading Western rating agencies. Personal friendship of Washington protégé Navalny with Senator McCain played for him and Washington a very negative role. Having learned this fact from the media, 98% of the Russian population now perceive Navalny only as a vassal of Washington and a traitor of Russia’s national interests. Therefore Western professionals, who have not yet lost their mind, cannot dream about any colour revolution in Russia.

As for the second traditional Western way of direct military aggression, Russia is certainly not Yugoslavia, not Iraq or Libya. In any non-nuclear military operation against Russia, on the territory of Russia, the West led by the US is doomed to defeat. And the generals in the Pentagon exercising real leadership of NATO forces are aware of this. Similarly hopeless is a nuclear war against Russia, including the concept of so-called “preventive disarming nuclear strike”. NATO is simply not technically able to strike a blow that would completely disarm the nuclear potential of Russia in all its many manifestations. A massive nuclear retaliatory strike on the enemy or a pool of enemies would be inevitable. And its total capacity will be enough for survivors to envy the dead. That is, an exchange of nuclear strikes with a country like Russia is not a solution to the looming problem of the collapse of a petrodollar world. It is in the best case, a final chord and the last point in the history of its existence. In the worst case – a nuclear winter and the demise of all life on the planet, except for the bacteria mutated from radiation.

The Western economic establishment can see and understand the essence of the situation. Leading Western economists are certainly aware of the severity of the predicament and hopelessness of the situation the Western world finds itself in, in Putin’s economic gold trap. After all, since the Bretton Woods agreements, we all know the Golden rule: “Who has more gold sets the rules.” But everyone in the West is silent about it. Silent because no one knows now how to get out of this situation.

If you explain to the Western public all the details of the looming economic disaster, the public will ask the supporters of a petrodollar world the most terrible questions, which will sound like this:

How long will the West be able to buy oil and gas from Russia in exchange for physical gold?
And what will happen to the US petrodollar after the West runs out of physical gold to pay for Russian oil, gas and uranium, as well as to pay for Chinese goods?

No one in the West today can answer these seemingly simple questions.

And this is called “zzzzzzzzz”, ladies and gentlemen. The game is over.

Edited January 28, 2015 by thegente

[Maggie123]

Or is it possible Russia got the jump on everybody and planted this evil U.S. seed so they could carry out their mission of reconstructing the USSR under the guise of peace keeping and the protection of the Russian language?  How quick we are to side with our old enemy.  I for one, don't speak Russian and would need a Russian speaking person (face to face) to confirm what I just read.  Some will say I'm not thinking clearly.....I say, maybe there's another option.  As always, just my opinion.    

 

GO RV, and NO BV 

 

Hello Shabbs

 

Of course there are always other "options" and one must ALWAYS use discernment...no matter what we are looking at. So good on you...

 

Ah where to begin...I guess I'll just keep it on the topic of this video and our embassy there to keep it simple...

 

You are right to question the possibility of an inaccurate translation or if perhaps this person was sent there by Russia to make those accusations. I would give the benefit of the doubt towards this being true because of what we know about the workings in this same US Embassy a few months later...we know about the leaked phone call between Victoria Nuland (Assistant Secretary OF State) and Geoffrey Pyatt (the US Ambassador Of Ukraine). It was definitely an incriminating phone call involving their plotting of who the new Ukrainian guberment should be led by..."I think Yats is the guy...". They were talking about who would be the most strategic to send there and when (Biden), who should be calling who to make that happen. The state department had egg dripping off their face...they could not deny the call and Victoria Nuland even had to put out an apology to EU leaders for her "F*ck the EU" comment on the call.

 

So that said...taking in account the "protesters" chanting in the background to obviously try and drown out what he was saying...I would give more weight to what this man was saying as being truthful and in what was being portrayed here. That and the pattern that I have observed in the MO of our guberment. IE: sending "aid workers" to countries with the mission of raising division, discontent and unrest. Really an internet campaign launched by the US in that Embassy isn't such a stretch to believe. IMHO.

 

Here are a couple of links about the call:

 

This one is a transcript of the call from a MSM outlet...

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

 

 

This is from a site I like:

 

"Washington’s response has confirmed the authenticity of a YouTube clip of a leaked telephone conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt that emerged Thursday.

 

In the call, posted by an anonymous Russian source, Nuland and Pyatt discuss installing a new, pro-US government that will incorporate the fascistic opposition which has been leading street protests against Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. Even though Washington’s campaign for regime-change has been coordinated with the European Union (EU), and particularly with Berlin, in the phone conversation with Pyatt, Nuland attacks the EU for being insufficiently aggressive, saying at one point, “F*ck the EU.”

 

Asked about the leaked video, US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, “I didn’t say it was inauthentic.” She added that Nuland was “in contact with her EU counterparts and, of course, has apologized for these reported comments.”

 

Psaki also addressed Nuland’s and Pyatt’s discussion of which forces Washington would allow to come to power in Kiev. In the telephone call, the two discuss plans to install an oligarchic regime working closely with fascist gangs. They agree that boxer Vitali Klitschko, who leads the German-backed UDAR party, should stay out of power and “do his political homework and stuff.”

 

They conclude that Arseniy Yatsenyuk of jailed billionaire oligarch Yulia Tymoshenko’s Fatherland Party should rule, conferring regularly with Oleh Tyahnybok of the fascist Svoboda Party, whose members and neo-Nazi allies provide most of the thugs fighting riot police in Kiev.

 

Psaki indicated that such discussions are normal for US policymakers. “It shouldn’t be a surprise that at any points there have been discussions about recent events and offers and what is happening on the ground,” she said.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-response-to-leaked-call-confirms-useu-regime-change-plot-in-ukraine/5367968

 

 

Anyways... that is my humble opinion on this video that Jim brought in...also I want to make it clear that my allegiance is not with any government...not even our own right now. My allegiance is and always will be with the American People and our well being FIRST and FOREMOST! If our guberment is causing danger to that well being for nefarious undertakings, then I feel it important to sound out against their actions. You also know me well enough to know how much empathy I have for all the innocent victims of other countries that have been slain and are being displaced by these conflicts. I believe our guberment's actions have been and are still contributing greatly to their pain. I guess that is one of my strong points...a whole lot of empathy...but it breaks my heart at times.

 

As Always Shabbs... Much Love and Appreciation Your Way.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Maggie123

[Maggie123]

Excellent Article Gente...Sums up all the rest of the picture quite well...Thank You.

 

Jim...I'm taking lessons from you on being so level headed and patient.

 

Appreciate Both Of You Too...Very Much!

[Jim1cor13]

Thank you Maggie, great article you posted also.

Edited January 29, 2015 by Jim1cor13

[Jim1cor13]

Here's a really good article that explains the hows and whys of what's going on between Russia and the Western Governments:

http://orientalreview.org/2014/12/25/grandmaster-putins-trap/

 

Very well done article thegente, sure makes one think which is what we should

be doing. Appreciate the data.

[umbertino]

Very Interesting stuff in the least... Grazie.