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Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal.  What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon.  What else could possibly be holding it up?  Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL.  Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI.

 

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I've gotten to the point where I don't expect the RV/RI to EVER happen, so that if/when it happens I'll be super excited. And if it DOESN'T happen, then there will be no disappointment. But, I will ALWAYS hold on to my Dinar.......  just in case. Happy New Year !!!!

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yes  I think   yendor is on the right  track , { as for  do not expect  it  tomorrow , }   and live  today  like  it  will be  the last  day !   and if it happens  whooo  hooooo !!     ------------  have  you thought  --------   that when this  hits , and  you exchanged , and are back home .....  what feelings will come next ?      the excitement  of  finished , and  money  ,  the  instant feeling  of  ---- now what  can I do with  the friends I use to  talk too ?   wonder what the dinar vetters are doing  now  ?   ----------  but really  with the way  oil has been going up and down  mostly  down  now ,,,,  what are the back  room deals   { that could be going on  }  what are they trying to do ?    they keep putting  exurbanite  amounts  too the  budget balances ,   how does this  move  the  pointer  forward ?   say 20 trillion  owed  ,  will they  make the dinar 2 per  1 dollar value   and cut  the  amount  owed  too 10 trillion  ?   or  could this even work  ?     how  much  push too shove  will the normal Iraqi  people have too deal with  ?   I truly  think  2015  will  show something ,  but I am not sure what  exactly that  will be  now ........    all I can do   is  hold  tight  and  hope  this rolls out   very  high amount  over  .25 cents  

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Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal.  What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon.  What else could possibly be holding it up?  Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL.  Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI.

 

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Deb45 my dear, we're all feeling anxious and excited throughout these recent exciting times for the Dinar - as others expressed here, you'll have to look at this opportunity in a way that it could happen, or not at all.  Just like being in Vegas.

 

Truly hope something happens this year 2015 indeed, but I feel we still have ways to go.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

Freedomwish.

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Hi Deb,

 

Well, it is my opinion that the budget has absolutely nothing to do with a RV... and why people keep pushing this is beyond me.

 

The past budgets that were completed had no affect on a RV did they? So, why would this one make any difference?

 

Yes, it would be nice if they got it done so they could move forward with other things but, it in no way constitutes a revaluation of the Iraqi dinar IMO.

 

I also don't believe there is anything "holding" it up. It's just a matter of them DOING it. Of course it would be nice and especially for us outside of iraq if the dinar were an international currency, however, at this point in time it still is not.

 

I don't thin\k it is a single thing or a combination of things that actually result in a RV, but the things that have already been done and implemented and maybe more things to come could definitely pave the road and make it smoother if you will.

 

None of us have the answers... it's all a guessing game really... and just remember that when people come setting dates, rates, deals and saying that it WILL happen right after this is done, they need to be steered clear of. They are simply not being honset with you.

 

I personally, will not get excited until Adam send the confirmation and we have actual, tangeable evidence that it is indeed the case.

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Thanks all,  We've been very blessed and are not in dire financial need.  We made our initial investment in the dinar years ago but only what we were willing to lose.  No big deal.  Since then I've been squirreling away spare change and after several months of collecting it I add it all up and buy dinar with it.  I figured its not money we would miss.  You'd be surprised how much spare change adds up to.

 

I don't hang on every word everyone posts.  Just wondering.  I guess you go through stages, just like mourning.  You're excited when you hear about the dinar, you study up on it, you buy it, start going thru all the scenarios of what you will do with it when it RV's. You get anxious because it hasn't happened, You get mad because of all the smoke & BS you read, Then you get numb and complacent.  Then you get pessimistic that it ever will happen. 

I do believe in my heart of hearts it will happen but the thrill is fading. Lately I've been keeping up with it a little bit more because it seems like e few times a week there are major accomplishments toward it.

 

Dare I say.... soon.

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People keep saying "Never bet what you can't afford to lose," but I would not be in this at all if I had followed that principle.  I was on my last financial go-round and I knew it.  The bottom had dropped out of my 401K, and I had been forced to sell my house and was moving in with my daughter, and as wonderful as she is, I wanted my own home, not hers.  But when the dust settled, I had a small amount of money left. That's when I got a phone call from my sister in California telling me about the dinar.  So I spent the last money I had to get into this, which based on everything I can discern, is still quite a bit of money. I knew that, eventually, my money would disappear, most likely in small, untraceable increments, a few dollars spent here and a few more there.  Whatever happens in the future, my "investment" in dinar has been the one thing that has kept giving me hope that my life wouldn't always be like this, that the future would be better, at least financially.  Maybe it won't be.  Maybe I will always have to live at what feels to me like the edge of poverty.  If so: so be it.  But never tell me my dreams are not worth that relatively "small" investment which, by any normal investment standards, I couldn't afford to lose. I can believe my life will become what I want it to be someday only because I own several thousand dinars.  So sometimes the best platitudes simply don't answer to all needs, plans, hopes, dreams, etc.  I don't need dinar.  But I sorely need the dreams and hopes that my ownership of dinar has given me.  Even if I lose it all, I will have had something that kept my life on an even keel during a difficult, painful time when I had nothing else.  Of course, I hope to become a millionaire+ with this, but even if I don't, it has been a huge possibility during a difficult time when I had nothing else to hold onto. It's true--I can't afford to lose this money, but even more, I can't afford to ever in my lifetime look back and wish I'd had the courage to spend the last few thousand dollars I owned on something that kept hope alive for me when I had nothing else.  Money is only money.  But hope is everything.  What price is that worth? 

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yes  I think   yendor is on the right  track , { as for  do not expect  it  tomorrow , }   and live  today  like  it  will be  the last  day !   and if it happens  whooo  hooooo !!     ------------  have  you thought  --------   that when this  hits , and  you exchanged , and are back home .....  what feelings will come next ?      the excitement  of  finished , and  money  ,  the  instant feeling  of  ---- now what  can I do with  the friends I use to  talk too ?   wonder what the dinar vetters are doing  now  ?   ----------  but really  with the way  oil has been going up and down  mostly  down  now ,,,,  what are the back  room deals   { that could be going on  }  what are they trying to do ?    they keep putting  exurbanite  amounts  too the  budget balances ,   how does this  move  the  pointer  forward ?   say 20 trillion  owed  ,  will they  make the dinar 2 per  1 dollar value   and cut  the  amount  owed  too 10 trillion  ?   or  could this even work  ?     how  much  push too shove  will the normal Iraqi  people have too deal with  ?   I truly  think  2015  will  show something ,  but I am not sure what  exactly that  will be  now ........    all I can do   is  hold  tight  and  hope  this rolls out   very  high amount  over  .25 cents  

On that speculaation, I would love it to RV at .39. Hence I could trade in one "note"(25,000 Dinar) per year and wait till they get tired of saying "tomorrow" for my trip to never-never land. I would be $25 under the dreaded $10,000 IRS ceiling.

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Francie, I believe it depends on your definition of "what you can afford". YOU could NOT afford to NOT invest in your HOPES and your FAITH. For; Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11.1

I invested money that, like you, I knew would be spent, some frivolously some not so much, perhaps. But had I not speculated, I would possibly be a greeter at Walmart one day.

I believe it was worth the price if only for the education.

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Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal.  What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon.  What else could possibly be holding it up?  Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL.  Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI.

 

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Yeah this investment is like "Watching Paint Dry" or your TV soap opera and is getting very boring to me. You can step back for a month and when you come back, nothing much has changed. I just packed my dinar away. Even if it does come out at a dime, it will take a long time before it would be worth it to cash in. So .... have patience or don't. It's an individuals choice.  Me, I don't after over four years.  That's why I have moved on to other things.This one is on remote control now that I have put into place everything I can. Nothing left for me to do. I like the friends I have made here and keep in contact with them.

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People keep saying "Never bet what you can't afford to lose," but I would not be in this at all if I had followed that principle.  I was on my last financial go-round and I knew it.  The bottom had dropped out of my 401K, and I had been forced to sell my house and was moving in with my daughter, and as wonderful as she is, I wanted my own home, not hers.  But when the dust settled, I had a small amount of money left. That's when I got a phone call from my sister in California telling me about the dinar.  So I spent the last money I had to get into this, which based on everything I can discern, is still quite a bit of money. I knew that, eventually, my money would disappear, most likely in small, untraceable increments, a few dollars spent here and a few more there.  Whatever happens in the future, my "investment" in dinar has been the one thing that has kept giving me hope that my life wouldn't always be like this, that the future would be better, at least financially.  Maybe it won't be.  Maybe I will always have to live at what feels to me like the edge of poverty.  If so: so be it.  But never tell me my dreams are not worth that relatively "small" investment which, by any normal investment standards, I couldn't afford to lose. I can believe my life will become what I want it to be someday only because I own several thousand dinars.  So sometimes the best platitudes simply don't answer to all needs, plans, hopes, dreams, etc.  I don't need dinar.  But I sorely need the dreams and hopes that my ownership of dinar has given me.  Even if I lose it all, I will have had something that kept my life on an even keel during a difficult, painful time when I had nothing else.  Of course, I hope to become a millionaire+ with this, but even if I don't, it has been a huge possibility during a difficult time when I had nothing else to hold onto. It's true--I can't afford to lose this money, but even more, I can't afford to ever in my lifetime look back and wish I'd had the courage to spend the last few thousand dollars I owned on something that kept hope alive for me when I had nothing else.  Money is only money.  But hope is everything.  What price is that worth? 

You are so "right on" Francie26, that I am sending sending this to my loving wife who keeps having anxioty attacts over my wishful thinking. I still have a lot to give the world and my family and I am not a quitter. I would love to go to Iraq's Marsh-lands to help restore the "Garden of Eden" (that Sadam destroyed) because I know what it takes (Permaculture, Bio-Char and EM-1). I have given up on wanting a farm in America(have you read the new FDA laws  taking effect now - crippeling). (And this is my 99th post. Yahoo)

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You know I have been disgusted with the Guru BS for a long time (years and years),  I used to be one of the fools that believed in every word that some of the Guru's said because people would not lie to you would they?...certainly not every day!!!, I learned the hard way to not lean on every word (or any) that spewed from any Guru's mouths.

 

I did get into this investment by my own will, I have not lost any money-like in the stock market (back then). I believe in my heart that some day the Country of Iraq will return to there own Currency and Being a Muslim Country they would want to get off the "Infidel's" money. so I do have confidence that this Investment will be fruitful someday, and I feel someday in the near future (notice I did not say soon;).

 

We investors are in a good spot, have confidence, there will always be those people who say we are fools for believing in this but after the RI or RV happens these people will also be the ones knocking on our NEW front doors with there hands out!

 

Thinking about how to responsibly improve my life and those who deserve it around Me have given me uncounted hours of happiness.

 

P.S. you know I am ALREADY a Millionaire ! --an Iraqi Millionaire;)

-Grin-

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Remember that the CEO of IBM at the time just before the advent of the personal computer stated something along these lines:  "who would want a computer in their home" ...lol...it has been an interesting but fun ride, wouldn't change a thing though because you have to have hope and dreams in life, and my wife said when I got into this "hey, that's just crazy enough that it might work" and told me to go for it...personally, I think the HCL and some esoteric economic laws are needed and more important that the 2015 budget...I just think it will break one day and be big news and we here on DV will be all Cheshire cat grins (insert SG7 pic here...lol...)  As the Brits would say "Keep Calm and Carry On"  ... that's my philosophy :twocents:

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I don't believe that there are any excuses, excuses are what the gurus spout out to cover their sorry lying  a.ses. Iraq is a war torn country that's just trying to survive, what we are all banking on is that their natural resources will be exploited and make us rich and hopefully they will have a better life as well. Be it in the name of GOD, be it in the name of riches, be it in the name of,  we all want them to have a nice career,modern roads and bridges,air conditioning,money in the bank, and a six pack of beer ! I really wish them well ! and I really wish to make a considerable profit for floating their CBI for all of these years. Just Saying !

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