yota691 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Kurd's (et al): We will give our ministers after the agreement on the government program By kareem Kahdm 30.08.2014 4:13 a.m. | Views: 121 Font Size: Brother Sam and Mullah MP for the coalition of Kurdish Soran Ismail, "The alliance will present his ministers to the prime minister-designate after the agreement on the government program and agree to our demands." Ismail said in a statement singled out by the reporter Agency for News News (et) that "the negotiations between the political blocs to rely on the government program for the prime minister-designate, stressing that" good negotiations and the National Alliance expressed its approval of the rights of Kurdistan. " Ismail pointed out that "the demands of the Iraqi coalition forces by 40% to represent them, this is determined in accordance with negotiating with national and percentage of population." And political forces locked in negotiations to form a government amid reports the National Alliance for the end of the drafting of the government program and presented today to the rest of the political forces to express an opinion with the Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi blocs to speed up the submission of candidates for the ministries. For its part called on the religious reference in his Friday sermon yesterday to accelerate the formation of a representative government for all the blocks and provide candidates with the courage to provide efficient and apologize and resign when their failure to take responsibility as well as the nomination of those who did not provide the service in the past. " Was left on the duration of the month specified in the constitution to form a government after the commissioning of the National Alliance candidate Haidar al-Abadi, only 12 days to accomplish the task in front of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Yep I figured the Kurds will hold up the new govt And now it's them who are saying they will Being held hostage by the Kurds I would take away their autonomy Form the govt of that territory for them They can't do it themselves 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 The article spells it out in plain English So when the govt isn't formed by its deadline You can blame the Kurds not Maliki Ya might as well blame bush and join Obama The first paragraph says it all 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_RFJ Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 The Kurds have been lied to for the last 8 years by the Maliki government. I'd be presenting demands too were I them. I think it's great news because the demands include payment of forces, 140, and HCL. without those last two we have no RV so, demand away I say. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 The hcl that has been voted down was pushed by the United States The Iraqi people don't want it Their priorities are to form a govt to fight Isis not to pass a referendum for a census or vote to implement 140 The area has been deserted They are not going to have a referendum while the people are exiled by terrorists and living in refugee camps That hcl that they have didn't get enough votes to implement it The oil law has been in place since the 1970s It states the oil is nationalized The only ones pushing for the hcl is the Kurds 3 out of 19 Iraqi provinces 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calkid11 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Thank you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 And the Iraq govt responsibilities are to form their own military if the Kurds want their own military they need to pay for it themselves or let Baghdad run it and become part of the Iraqi military If they choose to have their own military they will need to follow the constitution as far as weaponizing thru the Iraqi federal govt and trade policies The Kurds are no more incharge of running Iraq than any other Iraqi If they want to send polititions to Baghdad that are going to stall progress they are going to be on the losing end of that stick Ya pay our military and arm us while we steal your oil and land with our military forces backing us Get real 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) The latest ship disappearing off radar in the Gulf of Mexico is a prime example of the lawlessness in that Kurdish region If Maliki did that the sheep would want to string him up but if the Kurds do it they say go Kurds that's what we want lawlessness thievery smuggling lying cheating stealing ya go Kurds Well it's not the Kurds who will benefit its a hand full of polititions For some reason some people think politions in Kurdistan are the only ones in the world who are honest News flash look at what they been doing with the Iraqis oil Edited August 31, 2014 by dontlop 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Couldn't agree more RFJ. Time to make some real progress now. I'm glad to finally see this all coming together!! . GO RRRRVVVVVVV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 D, WHERE DID U GET THE IRAQ PEOPLE DON'T WONT THE HCL-140. THATS THERE PART OF THE OIL MONEY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new york kevin Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 The hcl that has been voted down was pushed by the United States The Iraqi people don't want it Their priorities are to form a govt to fight Isis not to pass a referendum for a census or vote to implement 140 The area has been deserted They are not going to have a referendum while the people are exiled by terrorists and living in refugee camps That hcl that they have didn't get enough votes to implement it The oil law has been in place since the 1970s It states the oil is nationalized The only ones pushing for the hcl is the Kurds 3 out of 19 Iraqi provinces Dontlop: Respectfully, what ???? The Kurds wanted 17%, Maliki didn't want to give the Kurds anywhere close to that figure from the Oil sale profits. Maliki was so corrupt as he did everything to try and get around their Constitution, Parliment, and laws in general. Many moves scarryingly similar to some of Mr Obama's moves. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks Yota...If this's within the guidelines of procedures, then I say more power to them. There aint no need to hurry if they got their man picked, just kick back and watch how the show unfolds. Keep'em hangin' and wonderin' to the last bell... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgabrielie Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thanks Yota...If this's within the guidelines of procedures, then I say more power to them. There aint no need to hurry if they got their man picked, just kick back and watch how the show unfolds. Keep'em hangin' and wonderin' to the last bell... I agree with you skeetdog. However; Iraq has many "eleventh hour" deliberations and they seem to always fall short of "ringing the last bell" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Kurdistan: put the names of candidates to fill positions 20:04 31/08/2014 The MP for the Kurdistan Alliance Ashwaq dry the alliance to provide the names of candidates to fill the positions of the new government, subject to the discussion of the government program, while it likely that he would not exceed the constitutional period set by the Prime Minister-designate Haider al-Abadi. Dry and stated that the delegation of the Kurdistan region continuously negotiate with the National Alliance to exit the government program that guarantees the rights of all the sons of Iraq, when applied to the ground within constitutional frameworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_RFJ Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Dontlop: Respectfully, what ???? The Kurds wanted 17%, Maliki didn't want to give the Kurds anywhere close to that figure from the Oil sale profits. Maliki was so corrupt as he did everything to try and get around their Constitution, Parliment, and laws in general. Many moves scarryingly similar to some of Mr Obama's moves. Been away from the board for a bit but just having a read through of the replies and yeah I agree w this. The Kurds want their 17%. Its entitled to them. Maliki said he would, then he never did. Simple as that. The Kurds are interested in oil revenue enough to ship a tanker off to the gulf of mexico on their own accord regardless of what the Maliki government said they should do. To say that they don't care about this issue is, in my opinion, incorrect. Saw an article posted here today talking about how all the demands but two were agreed upon. Hopefully, they came to some form of an agreement on this. Time will tell though. Edited September 1, 2014 by _RFJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityeXchange Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 its getting ready to go down. we are about to see really soon if our waiting was in vain. an exciting time to be an investor. thanks for the articles my friends. we have never seen level of progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Kurdistan: We identified our candidates for ministries Published on Wednesday, 03 September / September 2014 08:52 Written by: Jawad dreams Hits: 102BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network (IMN) - bloc said coalition forcesKurdistan, Wednesday, she finished identifying candidates to fill the bags ministerial in the government of Prime Minister-designate Haider al-Abadi, indicating that the submitted formally dependent on the Kurds share of ministerial portfolios. A member of the bloc Abdul Bari Zebari's (IMN) , said that "negotiations are still Jariaben delegation Kurdish forces and the National Alliance on the mechanism of the formation of the Kurdish Aovernmhoualemtalib." Asserting that "the progress of the negotiations on the demands." Zebari explained that "most of the points of contention between the center and the region was settled Fajulh negotiations for the past days, and will continue to Alajtmaaany end of this week to finish entirely to develop solutions to all the problems outstanding . " He added that "there are still changes taking place in the distribution of ministries did not Tthbtany now share the ministries of Kurdistan (PUK), and when Thbataatha Alcardosme will present candidates for ministerial portfolios . " He announced the National Alliance that all the political blocs agreed on the government program presented by Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi to the blocks, as pledged all political parties supported Abadi in his next mission . awaiting Abadi large files to be resolved, especially the security file and the service and economic, in addition to external files Other linked Iraq's relationship with its surroundings Arab and regional levels . From: Haider al-Tamimi, the Open: Ali Al-Shammari Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/185812-kurdistan-we-identified-our-candidates-for-ministries/#ixzz3CFZ3hvz6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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