Deleting the zeros is not what you want!

[keepmwlknfny]

I see people are still getting excited when seeing the deletion of the zeros articles....

Reality check....that's not what you want them to do!!!

That is a lop....please stop listening to the gurus....

[Bumper64]

Thanks keepm for starting a new thread!!  That other one was tired!!

[dinarbeleiver]

There is more than one way to delete zeros keep!

[keepmwlknfny]

Thanks keepm for starting a new thread!! That other one was tired!!

Lol no kidding....I was getting no where with that one!! Sheesh....

[Rayzur]

Yeah I could never actually figure out why anyone would be excited about deleting zeros... or how anyone saw that as good/exciting /or indication of great progress.... There is probably some line of logic, I just don't remember reading any logical progression as why people think that is such a great thing??? And the question is genuine.... what is the line of thinking behind this?

[Elixirbaby]

Run Forest run

[keepmwlknfny]

There is more than one way to delete zeros keep!

No there isent....please show me an example of a country cutting zeros off their currency and it wasn't a lop.....

And don't tell me the US cause tthat's not what they did.....

Yeah I could never actually figure out why anyone would be excited about deleting zeros... or how anyone saw that as good/exciting /or indication of great progress.... There is probably some line of logic, I just don't remember reading any logical progression as why people think that is such a great thing??? And the question is genuine.... what is the line of thinking behind this?

My thoughts exactly....Thank you for sharing rayzur....

[RVPleaseToday]

There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV.

[keepmwlknfny]

There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV.

No kidding.....If you hold dinar you don't want them going through with this. It's a non profit situation yet alot seem to be confused still as to what it is thanks to the gurus.

[billio0]

Thanks, sincerely!

 

I used to be one of those who was confused.

 

Billio0

[keepmwlknfny]

Thanks, sincerely!

I used to be one of those who was confused.

Billio0

No worries....not trying to piss on anyone's parade btw....but the facts will stand true.....it will not turn out good for anyone holding dinar

[dinarbeleiver]

Humanitarian keepem lol

[RVPleaseToday]

dinarbeleiver, wouldn't it be better to keep personalities out of this thread? Kinda messed up the previous thread.

 

How about adding something substantive?

Edited May 3, 2014 by RVPleaseToday

[Bumper64]

No worries....not trying to piss on anyone's parade btw....but the facts will stand true.....it will not turn out good for anyone holding dinar

 

 

Are you talking about this investment in general or the deletion of the 000??

[captl1]

Here we go again.

[dontlop]

Hey how's this

$3.33 dollars for one dinar

All new dinars

They put out pegged exchange rate between the old dinar and the new dinar what ever it is

But all the new dinar is at $3.33 per dinar

If there's no increase in the value of the old dinar

You get 300 new dinar for one million old dinar

If they decide they want to raise that pegged exchange rate by 2and 1/2 percent they do

If not they don't

Or what ever percent 3%

What ever

It Would be pegged between the old and new currency

But the new currency will have its international exchange rate against the dollar at $3.33

And the dinar would be a separate issue during the exchange

I for one do not believe that there is any one who does not know already what a lop is

So if that's what they do its what they do

If they do something else it's what they do

I supposed what I said is all wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about

The new dinar has its new rate exclusively and internationally

The cbi exchanges in all old dinar

How it gets there is up to who ever is holding it

The currency dealers will be turning in what currency they have left so why not offer to buy back dinar off the holders before they go and take it all back

It's how they make money

Why would they say nah I'm going to just cash in the ones they had left over

When they can make a fortune off the exchange just like they made selling it

Only this time instead of making that fortune in 10 years

The exchange period is only 1 year

So they just tell the holders to take a number and get in line

No sales pitches

Ya got no other choice but get in line

Of course they want to make another 300 million dollars off the holders on the way out

Yep I think we all know the scenario

It's been talked about for 10 years

So why even talk about it again

I think that's why they made a lopster bin

So these topics could be contained and not used to interrupt daily conversations in the rest of the forum

dinarbeleiver, wouldn't it be better to keep personalities out of this thread? Kinda messed up the previous thread.

 

How about adding something substantive?

I think the opening of this topic already started by calling people gurus

When it starts out buy bringing personalities into it that's usually the way it goes

Calling people gurus or lopsters what's the difference

Why not just call them princess like keep does

They guy has earned his own demise

[dontlop]

There is more than one way to delete zeros keep!

When the currency code remains the same they can have what ever kind of pegged exchange rate they choose

The IQD will still be the IQD

The Swiss IQD had a pegged exchange rate that was different than the pegged exchange rate of the central bank officially monetized IQD

The market value and the official exchange rate of the Swiss IQD in "most of Iraq "was zero including at the central bank of Iraq

But it ended up with a official exchange rate to the NID at the central bank of Iraq by decree at 150 times the value of the central banks official IQD

So nothing is set in stone

There were separate pegged official exchange rates to the NID from the IQD in the 2003 exchange

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Edited May 3, 2014 by dontlop

[dontlop]

I see people are still getting excited when seeing the deletion of the zeros articles....

Reality check....that's not what you want them to do!!!

That is a lop....please stop listening to the gurus....

How do you know what people want ???

Did ya ever think that they know exactly what you know , After all it doesn't take much to read the paragraph that explains it

People been following this for years and they may be tired of it and want this thing over no matter how it turns out

Not everyone has bet the farm and lost their family and home over this

They are not all obsessed about losing a couple hundred dollars

It is what it is

I want it over no matter what they do just end this already

Like people say there's no reason for all this spin if they were going to lop

But if they were hiding something then it would take govt cooperation and propagan.....

Ask shabbs he will tell ya

And if your interested I can show you those words coming straight out of his mouth on a utube video

[dontlop]

There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV.

Don't understand the bringing out of personalities and stereo typing them as gurus

But

Can you show us one time in history where the circumstances in Iraq were repeated by any of those country's that lopped

And let me explain what was different in Iraq

Then I'd like your response

....... ............ ......

Ok

1) who else that lopped was invaded by foriegn country's and the foriegn country ordered a new currency and exchange rates by decree of that invading country

2) who else was this action approved if by the world bank , United Nations , the International Monetary Fund , and the bank of international settlements

3) who else was set up on a program rate by the International Monetary Fund for monetering purposes

Please explain how Iraq is just like all the other country's that lopped

Especially the program rate

Edited May 3, 2014 by dontlop

[dontlop]

It makes ya wonder how they set the rates

It went from 2400 to 1100 in two months in 2003 then back up to over 2000 for the exchange period

I guess adding a bunch of Swiss dinar that were backed by nothing into the exchange in 2003 could devalue the crap out of the IQD

But they did go from 2400 In April2003 to June 2003 to 1100

It makes ya wonder

The entire govts of Iraq was removed

A new central bank law was set by decree by the invading forces

How can this be compared to every other country who's govt remaining in place with the same central bank

I guess the " Iraq is different " is reserved to back up what arguments someone chooses

I've heard Iraq is different from both sides of the arguement

Now let's see the " Substance " and not the usual ridicule

[keepmwlknfny]

Are you talking about this investment in general or the deletion of the 000??

Deleting the zeros. .....

Hey how's this

$3.33 dollars for one dinar

All new dinars

They put out pegged exchange rate between the old dinar and the new dinar what ever it is

But all the new dinar is at $3.33 per dinar

If there's no increase in the value of the old dinar

You get 300 new dinar for one million old dinar

If they decide they want to raise that pegged exchange rate by 2and 1/2 percent they do

If not they don't

Or what ever percent 3%

What ever

It Would be pegged between the old and new currency

But the new currency will have its international exchange rate against the dollar at $3.33

And the dinar would be a separate issue during the exchange

I for one do not believe that there is any one who does not know already what a lop is

So if that's what they do its what they do

If they do something else it's what they do

I supposed what I said is all wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about

The new dinar has its new rate exclusively and internationally

The cbi exchanges in all old dinar

How it gets there is up to who ever is holding it

The currency dealers will be turning in what currency they have left so why not offer to buy back dinar off the holders before they go and take it all back

It's how they make money

Why would they say nah I'm going to just cash in the ones they had left over

When they can make a fortune off the exchange just like they made selling it

Only this time instead of making that fortune in 10 years

The exchange period is only 1 year

So they just tell the holders to take a number and get in line

No sales pitches

Ya got no other choice but get in line

Of course they want to make another 300 million dollars off the holders on the way out

Yep I think we all know the scenario

It's been talked about for 10 years

So why even talk about it again

I think that's why they made a lopster bin

So these topics could be contained and not used to interrupt daily conversations in the rest of the forum

I think the opening of this topic already started by calling people gurus

When it starts out buy bringing personalities into it that's usually the way it goes

Calling people gurus or lopsters what's the difference

Why not just call them princess like keep does

They guy has earned his own demise

There are plenty who still don't understand a lop.....have you seen the people getting excited about deleting the zeros? Read through those threads....they apparently have no idea....

[dontlop]

Ok

Hopfully they will stop in and you can start all over with all that splainin

I just hope you don't start ridiculing them when they present the same arguements you heard in the past

[keepmwlknfny]

How do you know what people want ???

Did ya ever think that they know exactly what you know , After all it doesn't take much to read the paragraph that explains it

People been following this for years and they may be tired of it and want this thing over no matter how it turns out

Not everyone has bet the farm and lost their family and home over this

They are not all obsessed about losing a couple hundred dollars

It is what it is

I want it over no matter what they do just end this already

Like people say there's no reason for all this spin if they were going to lop

But if they were hiding something then it would take govt cooperation and propagan.....

Ask shabbs he will tell ya

And if your interested I can show you those words coming straight out of his mouth on a utube video

I'm not gonna argue for 80 pages with your ignorance. ....If you don't know what I'm talking about, then don't speak...

[dontlop]

Oh so now I'm ignorant

I was wondering how long before the insults started flying

Page two just like your last thread

I'm not gonna argue for 80 pages with your ignorance. ....If you don't know what I'm talking about, then don't speak...

If you got nothing nice to say maybe you shouldn't be opening topics for discussion

I suppose its time for your reinforcements to come and gang up on me as usual

Do ya got any new screen names ready like your last topic?

Here we go again.

Yep ya pegged it right off the bat

Home run captl1

[RVPleaseToday]

dontlop says: "2) who else was this action approved if by the world bank , United Nations , the International Monetary Fund , and the bank of international settlements 

3) who else was set up on a program rate by the International Monetary Fund for monitoring purposes"

 

Could you provide a link for these two items? I've never seen this except as part of a guru explanation. The program rate is not a law Iraq has to follow, although many gurus suggest that it is. The program rate is simply a number the IMF chose as an internal accounting measure. Iraq has moved their exchange rate from the "program" rate a number of times. Iraq has complete control of its own exchange rate, not the IMF. The IMF has pointed this out that it has no control over Iraq's exchange rate, most recently when questions were asked during the TNT Tony twitter nonsense.

Edited May 3, 2014 by RVPleaseToday