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#1 dinar_stud

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:51 AM

No mid-Oct. paycheck for troops if government shuts down, lawmaker says

 

With one week to go before a potential partial government shutdown, a key Republican lawmaker is warning troops to be financially prepared for the possibility of not getting a mid-October paycheck.

 

 

Rep. C.W. “Bill” Young, R-Fla., chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, warns that the troops’ morale and readiness will suffer even though the Defense Department does not shut down when its funding stops.

 

 

“All military personnel will continue to serve and accrue pay, but will not actually be paid until appropriations are available,” Young said. The mid-month payday would be the first in jeopardy.

 

Additionally, he said most travel and permanent change of station moves “would be delayed or canceled” and benefits for line-of-duty deaths also would be suspended.

 

Military hospitals and clinics will remain open but would scale back on operations, “impacting routine medical and dental procedures,” Young said. He did not specifically mention any impact on Tricare health insurance benefits, but in past government shutdowns, payments to medical providers were delayed but treatment was still available.

 

 

Maintenance for facilities and weapons would stop, Young said, and most defense and service civilian employees would be “furloughed until appropriations are available.”

 

 

“Readiness and morale of our armed forces will suffer,” he said. “The impact of a shutdown on the department and the military and civilian families — many of whom live paycheck to paycheck — is simply catastrophic.”

 

 

On Friday, the House of Representatives passed a 76-day funding bill that would keep the government running from Oct. 1, the start of fiscal 2014, until Dec. 15. Most government agencies, including the Defense Department, could continue operating at existing funding levels.

 

 

A bill to keep the government running is not unusual, but this measure, H.J. Res. 59, is different. It includes a section defunding the 2010 Affordable Care Act health care reform. The White House has warned that President Obama would veto the bill if this provision is included.

 

 

There is a second, equally controversial rider on the bill, the Full Faith and Credit Act, which details a priority list for paying bills if the government exceeds its $16.7 trillion debt limit. Creditors would be paid first, with military and federal civilian paychecks, disabled veterans’ checks, Medicare payments to doctors, school lunch programs and other government debts ranking lower.

 

The Senate is due to take up the short-term spending bill Monday, but there is a deadline of midnight Sept. 30 for enactment of a bill to avoid shutdown.

 

 

Rep. Hal Rogers, R-Ky., the House Appropriations Committee chairman, agreed with Young’s assessment that troops won’t get paid if the government runs out of money.

 

 

“A government shutdown is a political game in which everyone loses,” he said, calling the House-passed bill one that “simply keeps the lights on in our government.”

 

 

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#2 Roadrunner

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:49 AM

I am willing to bet that none of our senators, congressmen, or the president miss a paycheck.

 

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#3 FlintNPebbles

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 11:35 AM

I am willing to bet that none of our senators, congressmen, or the president miss a paycheck.

 

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Thats true. They have it written so that no matter what other part of the government needs to be shut down, they will continue to get their paychecks. It would literally take an act of congress to have their checks  revoked or delayed.


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#4 twolincs

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:10 PM

I am willing to bet that none of our senators, congressmen, or the president miss a paycheck.

 

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As well as all the Foreign Aid that we distribute all over the world while we have homeless vets here on the streets . . . and so on  . . . and so on . . . .


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#5 Maggie123

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:18 PM

Just who are our "creditors"?... Might that be interest payments to the FED Reserve?

 

 

"There is a second, equally controversial rider on the bill, the Full Faith and Credit Act, which details a priority list for paying bills if the government exceeds its $16.7 trillion debt limit. Creditors would be paid first, with military and federal civilian paychecks, disabled veterans’ checks, Medicare payments to doctors, school lunch programs and other government debts ranking lower."

 

 

 

As well as all the Foreign Aid that we distribute all over the world while we have homeless vets here on the streets . . . and so on  . . . and so on . . . .

 

Dang Good Point!

 

This is beyond maddening.

 

They need to start doing their jobs... but they won't... so we need to get rid of every single incumbent in there. JMHO
 


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:40 PM

I would think that our boys serving would be the first to get payed.

The boys in washington need to tighten their own belts and eat less lobster and quit drinking $200 bottles of wine

Maybe cut down to only one prostitute a week instead of three.

Our boys should come first. 


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#7 desimo

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:12 PM

Pay the military, don't pay the sack of poo politicians and pres who cannot do their jobs.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:19 PM

And who will be to blame? Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, liberals, every damn one of them in Washington. They have been deeking around with the debt for many years, and when was the last budget passed and carried out? Let's have a recall for every one of them and start over. Surely couldn't be worse than the BiPartisan do nothing bunch we have up there now.

 

Rant over sorry, I just am so fed up with all this political bullshiite


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:32 PM

I am so tired of our idiots in D.C.   Our dumba$$ president runs all over the world, sends his dumba$$ dog on a special flight, pays someone to take care of his dumba$$ dog better than most Americans make in a year, his dumba$$ wife and kids travel the world on OUR dime, yet the White House is closed to Americans because of budget cuts.  Congress could not find their butts with a GPS unit.  If they stepped in dog poop they would not be able to agree on whether to scrap it off, take a picture of it, or freeze dry it and THEN they would argue as to whose fault it was that it got stepped into in the beginning. 


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#10 gymrat76541

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:11 PM

Why do the elected officials in Washington play these games?

 

I wonder wht they will do IF the soldiers who do NOT get their paychecks just walked off the job or did not go to work?

 

STUPID


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 11:37 PM

I would think that our boys serving would be the first to get payed.
The boys in washington need to tighten their own belts and eat less lobster and quit drinking $200 bottles of wine
Maybe cut down to only one prostitute a week instead of three.
Our boys should come first.

Agreed and on another note all 535 need to be replaced.

I am so tired of our idiots in D.C. Our dumba$$ president runs all over the world, sends his dumba$$ dog on a special flight, pays someone to take care of his dumba$$ dog better than most Americans make in a year, his dumba$$ wife and kids travel the world on OUR dime, yet the White House is closed to Americans because of budget cuts. Congress could not find their butts with a GPS unit. If they stepped in dog poop they would not be able to agree on whether to scrap it off, take a picture of it, or freeze dry it and THEN they would argue as to whose fault it was that it got stepped into in the beginning.

Because he is a dumbazz
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:49 AM

It's always the military and seniors that take the bite when o and his minions screw up. Time to put'em out of office. Wake up America. Need to take D.C and flush it and start over.What do we have to lose. Dems, Repubs, all, politicans nothing but a bunch of azz-kissing greedy bast**ds. Whew feel better now
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:15 AM

Tired of all this arrogant senseless stupidty....it time to RECALL every elected dingbat in Washington.......Lets go people wake up...Have you become so hard hearted toward in action of truth that you can't see what is happening.....Do you like it this way....Is this the world you want for your kids and grandkids because if it is then you have no conscience.....Everyday one more law levied against our freedoms, everyday we are sinking.


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#14 Shabibilicious

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:45 AM

Congressional paychecks are much smaller than.........their "other" checks.....by checks, I mean cash, in black bags, paid in person, in an alley, or parking garage, or mistresses pad.   :D 

 

GO RV, then BV 


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

I'd give our troops my paycheck if I knew they would get it.

Bites bottom lip and controls blowing a gasket at our current Gov

they are risking there lives you idiots for our safety and freedom.

Wheres a Lib with a gun in the whitehouse area when you need one.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:09 PM

So- as a federaI technician -  had to take 6 days without pay last fiscal year to help balance the non-existant budget. Let's see how many days I have to take off this year. This is just plain getting stupid.

 

So on top of my taking a 20% cut in pay for 3 of my paychecks, It looks like my drill pay for October may be non-existant?  So I get to go do my PT test for free it looks like. Not that I wouldn't show up - because it still needs to get done - but it is very tempting.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:37 PM

So- as a federaI technician -  had to take 6 days without pay last fiscal year to help balance the non-existant budget. Let's see how many days I have to take off this year. This is just plain getting stupid.

 

So on top of my taking a 20% cut in pay for 3 of my paychecks, It looks like my drill pay for October may be non-existant?  So I get to go do my PT test for free it looks like. Not that I wouldn't show up - because it still needs to get done - but it is very tempting.

 

That sux Tank......never been a big fan of puking for free.   :peace: 

 

GO RV, then BV


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

That sux Tank......never been a big fan of puking for free.   :peace: 

 

GO RV, then BV

*lol*  Me neither.  Heck - I'm not a fan of puking for pay!


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:52 PM

*lol*  Me neither.  Heck - I'm not a fan of puking for pay!

 

Roger that!   :salute:  I have a feeling they will just stick another band-aid on the budget and push it back to fight another day.  These boneheads can't agree on anything except disagreeing.   :peace: 

 

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:13 PM

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