SWFG (5/4/13)

[SWFloridaGuy]

5-4-13 SWFloridaGuy: I haven't been posting for a while because I really just have lost so much respect for those who, in my opinion, deliver information on daily that is unethical considering they themselves realize that their predictions contain about as much verisimilitude as me becoming a Jedi-Knight. Maybe that's a character defect I need to work on.

But when you see thousands of people worship XXXX, showing a complete lack of discernment, the ability to be a critical thinker and question such nonsense it's hard to not get frustrated and unfortunately for the many intelligent investors, it makes us all look like fools who are being scammed. I've also met some of the most intelligent people I'm honored to call friends and continue learn from.

 

Once again I'd like to thank thos who continue to apply themselves and provide solid research such as Kaperoni, Enorrste, Adam Montana, Tlar, Scooter EG, Stryker, Enoch8, Yota691, Proteus and some I'm sure I forgot. While many vets appreciate their efforts, rather large group of dinar holders who appear to be less than perspicacious, devoid of common sense, blinded by greed and simply want to hear we're gonna RV tomorrow (once again), and the rate is so high it will tickle God's toes.

 

For example: Without naming names the Reno scam and a few others I won't mention are promising early cashouts if you hand over your dinar and certain people are making claims on behalf of Wells Fargo "representatives," code for scam and obviously Wells Fargo is not happy about false claims being made on their behalf when they are as skeptical as anyone about the IQD and will have nothing to do with it until the currency goes international. So not here to be negative but felt obligated to warn the newbies once again. I was there once my self and certainly had to learn the hard way.

 

On a positive note, none of this takes away from the validity of this investment all though nothing is guaranteed and there is always risk involved. I have never lost faith that we will prosper from this. How much and how long this will take is not something I concern myself with, as I of course, have no control. I feel lucky to be involved and have grown more appreciative of this opportunity since I started ignoring the rumors. Just my personal perrogative.

 

The Finance Committee acknowledges certain remaining obstacles while also maintaining it is an absolute necessity at this time, which coincides with the WTO and IMF recommendations. Iraq's dependence on the oil sector and the absence of any diversity in resources has been addressed by economists operating within systematic programs accurately to activate economic sectors agriculture, industry and provide jobs for the labor and increase budget resources. Whether or not they will be successful remains to be seen.

 

We've seen countless committees highly skilled in the art of procrastination and ineptness. However, lately I am very encouraged by the Erbil terms being addressed and the HCL once again to the forefront of discussion. Perhaps Maliki's opposition efficaciously found an angle where it is in the PMs best interest to play ball. Personally, I'm just hoping for the best and figured out long ago, when it comes to the GOI, my ability to adumbrate on the matter is leaves something to be desired. Thanks you to all the newshounds who continue to spend countless hours trying to decipher this puzzle. It does appear that slowly but surely, Iraq is making some real progress.

 

Thanks goodness there is such a balanced group here at DD, forums such as DV, guru free chat rooms like MIG and Stryker. We'll just have to keep eachother sane. If you've ever been in the cult-like guru sites it's almost comical. Pages and pages will fly by with emoticons jumping for joy singing wooooohooo, yippie, our blessing "that God owes us," like he's some kind of sugar daddy now in full support of the love of money, details aren't important but the manna is flowing.

 

For the newbies: Next time someone tells you a date and rate, ASN, this is our last weekend, then confirms it with 20 others 5 minutes later. Ask them this question, "are your super secret intel contacts Prosperity Package Memos? You may recall 90% of the date/rate predictions come from these memos. I have a friend who's unfortunately been involved in this con for 15 years. I think it's only fair to share this PP memo with the community where many of these rumors originate so you can make up your own mind as to their validity.

 

Here's just one example. This was sent out on May 22, 2012 and I can assure you that the verbage has only gotten more absurd while the aggrandizement of those who provide erroneous reporting unworthy of a National Enquirer footnote succeed as presenting rumors accepted as gospel.

 

****** "PROSPERITY PACKAGE ANNOUNCEMENT: From Trader around 17:00 (Eastern) who got word from his banker that they released the Codes to the groups out there and groups are getting the Codes out to their people sometime tonight. I had another call about an hour ago (ca 20:00) that he receive word that the people who are considered the next level below the Whales, are in the banks right now cashing in their Dinar. Also heard from another source who said he heard that full release was given today for the Deliveries of the F.I.P. and the Prosperity Programs and for the RV to come in.

 

Another thing is got from Trader, was that they could not have given the Codes out unless they did an internal announcement in the banks today which would get everything started. The person with the Delivery Release said that this was set for everything to be done tomorrow (Tuesday). Heard from another person whose Group Leader told them that Codes were coming in that moment- which was a couple of hours ago, and they were getting ready to send it out to the people tonight.” Well I’m waiting to hear from you regarding the Codes.

Well what happens is, the Codes are individual for people. The way they work this is that they (Group) had to give the banks the person’s name, address, phone number and the amount of Dinar and Dong. They will receive a unique number in the contact and they will be instructed to which bank to go and the number to call to make an appointment. When they go in, they give that Code information which matches up to what the bank has, and then they pay the higher rate. So if you did put that information in – which I and probably you did do, they will receive the $43.10 vs. the additional $7.00 bonus. So, if you don’t get a code in the e-mail tonight, you know you are not in one of the valid groups. Tomorrow you can call the bank and make an Appointment to cash in."  END ******

 

On a more positive note: Concerning the WTO, last we heard senior Iraqi officials were receiving intensive training and being instructed on the necessary steps they would have to take to be eligable. Nothing is confirmed yet but the GOI is more than interested in joining the WTO (which requires a convertible currency). This would not only benefit Iraqi citizens but also to all those who have invested in the Iraqi Dinar. Joining the WTO would mean increased economic activity and more foreign investment in the country.

 

This idea of Iraq joining the WTO has been both has it's supporters and also has encountered some opposition as well. Lack of economic diversification and their dependency upon fossil fuels is one possible obstacle they've been struggling to overcome. Although Iraq lacks infrastructure, raw material and resources to create products that can compete on an international level there are supporters among WTO members who maintain that joining the WTO will aide in infrastructure and industry development.

 

This only concerns us because due to accession requirements (which are ongoing and progressing currrently), the outcome of which will have a direct influence on the value of Iraqi Dinar. Under this arrangement oil exports, developing sectors such as agriculture, education, oil exploration, gold purification/extraction are all major contributing factors. If and this is a big "if" the GOI refrains from theft and corruption and invests in these many industries and production activities that will support their national pride and international standing. The result wil be a strengthened economy and a strong currency.

 

Just to be clear, a strong currency doesn't necessarily pertain to the value or implicate a large RV but it does address a very important aspect which is confidence and in this faith based economy, this in turn will affect supply and demand and possibly more ammunition for those I have absolute faith that over time it is inevitable that the IQD will be somewhere on par with the USD eventually. The mechanism by which they will acheive this and the timing is of course anyone's guess.

 

Considering the current turmoil with the GOI I would be surprised if a solid date for the implementation of their currency reform project has yet to be determined and is hinging on legislation that will support it's stability. It appears to be a work in progress. I do believe that our patience will be rewarded and I feel there's more of a sense of urgency this year and we may be closer than we think. These are simply my opinions, which may or may not be correct.

 

There has been a lot of talk about deleting the zeros lately. Also, as usual, many conflicting articles that say those rumors are false. Personally, I believe that deleting the zeros is not the current plan of action. For the time being I believe the rate will be adjusted through discrete revaluations due to fundamental disequilibria. The CBI's reserves continue to grow as well as foreign investment a surprising, somewhat willingness to compromise.

 

Most likely due to threats or power struggles. The only issue is these reserves will not fully cover all domestic liabilities, which leaves them some room for discretionary monetary policy. The IQD is adjusted periodically in small amounts at a fixed rate or in response to changes in selective quantitative indicators.

I believe when the time is right, necessary legislation is passed and the GOI cleans house, the CBI will make their move and peg directly to either the relevant commodity or do a hybrid solution. Of course these opinions are void of any in-exorable certainty. I've been off the mark quite a few times and would love to hear others opinions on all that has transpired in 2013.  

 

Anyway, miss chatting with you guys but I do stop by and lurk quite often.  Just been kinda burnt out on this whole thing.  Thanks.

Edited May 5, 2013 by TexasGranny
removed links to other site - AGAINST FORUM RULES

[eburt]

Thanks FloridaGuy for this post.  This is one of the best opinion/statement that I have seen on hear quite sometime.  I agree with you when it comes to Iraq Dinar - When the time is right it will happen.  Thanks again

[Muleslayer]

I think that something Adam said covers it best.

"And we wait."

I feel your pain swfg. Hang in there

Hopefully pain is inversely proportional to pleasure. (exempli gratia) pleasure shared is pleasure squared.

Edited May 5, 2013 by Muleslayer

[KiaKaha]

How's your research going? Didn't you say you and some others were working on a paper? Did I miss it?

 

KK

[Maggie123]

Thank You SWFG

 

Can I Borrow Carrello's Words To Say...

 

"I Just Love This Guy"

 

 

 

Thank You Again Sweetie Much Appreciated

[DinarThug]

5-4-13 SWFloridaGuy: Once again I'd like to thank thos who continue to apply themselves and provide solid research such as Kaperoni, Enorrste, Adam Montana, Tlar, Scooter EG, Stryker, Enoch8, Yota691, Proteus and some I'm sure I forgot.

 

 

Well Thank Goodness That U Forgot To Mention CNN Because I Wouldn't Of Wanted That To Impune Ur Credibility !

 

 

 

 

Wuzzup Bro' ! I Pretty Much Agreed With Most Everything U Said !

 

Although I Didn't Quite Understand Some Of Those $10 Dollar Words U Were Throwing Around Like ...

 

Verisimilitude, Disequilibria, And In-Exorable !

 

        

 

 

Seriously Though I Appreciate The Fact That U Have Been Willing In The Past To Take On The "Missionary" Role Of Going To Some Of The Other Sites That We Here At DV Make Fun Of, In Order To Bring A Sense Of Rationality To Those Members There Who Are Obviously Preyed Upon !

 

I'm Sure That It Must Have Taken A Great Deal Of Restraint On Ur Part Not To Tell Them What U Really Feel !

 

Incidentally, I Know That I Am Way Too Much Of A Smart A$$ To Ever Even Consider Trying To Post On One Of Those Sites With The Hope Of Maintaining A Civil Discourse !

 

So Keep On Doing What Ur Doing SWFG !

 

And Please Continue To Keep Ur Peeps Here At DV In Da' Loop !

 

 

 - CNN

 

     

 

 

 

[Bumper64]

Thanks for the post SWFG, glad to see you back posting here at DV!!

[hiloeven]

You are more naive than I thought--after all this time you don't get it - there is an obvious monetary agenda per each one of your exclusions mentioned below, they are making money while you are presenting an academia textbook synopsis which has no application in this well casted scenario....catch a cab to the real world, while they snicker at you.

"Once again I'd like to thank thos who continue to apply themselves and provide solid research such as Kaperoni, Enorrste, Adam Montana, Tlar, Scooter EG, Stryker, Enoch8, Yota691, Proteus and some I'm sure I forgot."

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147935-swfg-5413/#ixzz2SODGWGwK"

[handy]

Thanks SWFG , your opinion , research and info. are very much appreciated .

[SWFloridaGuy]

How's your research going? Didn't you say you and some others were working on a paper? Did I miss it?

 

KK

I just typed you up like 2 pages worth of stuff and for no reason the page just closed arghhh..   Gonna summarize.  Here's the last email from Doug Casey concerning interview. 

 

Casey Research Customer support <subscribers@caseyresearch.com>

Jan 30

 

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Ok so I did a follow up call and they put me in touch with a couple economists that I'm trying to set up an interview with before I leave for the Oxford Club meeting in a couple months.  I want to get all this stuff on a recorder at least of maybe video.  I'm a bit concerned that they may give us news we don't wanna hear but I'll offer up whatever they say and we can come to our own conclusions.  I'm searching for currency experts who are well versed in macroeconomics, RDs, RVs, PEPs, Floats, Lops  etc.  Not looking for some idiot who knows nothing about Iraq and says the IQD is a scam like that retarded video the other day.  Also, not looking for some pumper idiot who's gonna tell me what I want to hear.  I'm screaning them pretty good and you'll be able to check his or her credentials. Anyway, prolly only a couple months away at the most unless these other two come through but they are gonna charge a lot for their time.  Oxford Club is free once you're a member.  Keep ya posted.  Hopefully, it won't be bad news but expert or not, even an educated opinion is still just an opinion.

[SWFloridaGuy]

 

You are more naive than I thought--after all this time you don't get it - there is an obvious monetary agenda per each one of your exclusions mentioned below, they are making money while you are presenting an academia textbook synopsis which has no application in this well casted scenario....catch a cab to the real world, while they snicker at you.

"Once again I'd like to thank thos who continue to apply themselves and provide solid research such as Kaperoni, Enorrste, Adam Montana, Tlar, Scooter EG, Stryker, Enoch8, Yota691, Proteus and some I'm sure I forgot."

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147935-swfg-5413/#ixzz2SODGWGwK"

 

 

Thanks for the ignorant comment aimed toward my personal preference.  I enjoy watching Game of Thrones also. Please forgive me for daring to share an opinion.  By the way, you may want to explain to Scooter, Adam Montana and Proteus that they, according to you, are pumpers.  At least that's what I think you were implying.  You're not that well-spoken so a battle of wits would be rather boring. Up for something a little more active?  A little MMA sparring perhaps.  I way outta practice trust me and I'm sure the world's snickering over me would only carry over.  Keep in touch.  Would make for a good youtube video while we wait for this elusive RV.  Great chatting with you buddy. 

Thanks everyone.  I still start off every morning by coming in hear and reading.  I just don't usually have the energy to leave a lot of comments anymore.  Feel like I'm just repeating myself.  Love reading everyone's comments though. Very informative and also crack me sometimes when you let those guys have it.

Edited May 5, 2013 by SWFloridaGuy

[TomRiddle]

SWFG, What's your take on this:

 

Urgent .. Barzani signed the agreement with Maliki

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz2S3uqSBsZ

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147631-adams-wed-chat-5-01-2013/#ixzz2SOLKoYGR

 

Also,

 

 

Seven Point Agreement

 

http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147652-seven-point-agreement/#entry1162917

[DinarThug]

You are more naive than I thought--after all this time you don't get it - there is an obvious monetary agenda per each one of your exclusions mentioned below, they are making money while you are presenting an academia textbook synopsis which has no application in this well casted scenario....catch a cab to the real world, while they snicker at you.

"Once again I'd like to thank thos who continue to apply themselves and provide solid research such as Kaperoni, Enorrste, Adam Montana, Tlar, Scooter EG, Stryker, Enoch8, Yota691, Proteus and some I'm sure I forgot."

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147935-swfg-5413/#ixzz2SODGWGwK"

Hmmm, Where Do I Start - Ok, I'll Start At The Top And End There .......

How Dare U Come On To This Site And Take A Swipe At Our Yota !

He's The Hardest Working NewsHound There Is - Period !

- CNN

[SWFloridaGuy]

Great post Thug.  For real Yota is the Dinar King in my opinion.   K98 knights is awesome also.  But I swear I don't know how Yota does it, I really don't.  We all owe him a lot, he's spoiled us.

SWFG, What's your take on this:

 

Urgent .. Barzani signed the agreement with Maliki

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz2S3uqSBsZ

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147631-adams-wed-chat-5-01-2013/#ixzz2SOLKoYGR

 

Also,

 

 

Seven Point Agreement

 

http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/147652-seven-point-agreement/#entry1162917

 

Thanks for the question and good to see you again.  Honestly, I've just finished a glass of wine and getting ready to crash but I have been researching that a lot as I'm sure many here has as well.  I'd love to bounce some ideas around with everyone tomorrow though.  Nite DV. 

[respectron]

Thanks for your post SWFG. I really enjoy them and missed seeing them. Repeat or not its a pleasure to read your input and breakdown of information.

Enjoy your evening SWFG.

[DinarThug]

Great post Thug.  For real Yota is the Dinar King in my opinion.   K98 knights is awesome also.  But I swear I don't know how Yota does it, I really don't.  We all owe him a lot, he's spoiled us.

Ya, I Hear U Bro - And No 'Dis To Woody (K98Knights) But His Name Wasn't Originally Mentioned !

I Appreciate Both Of Those NewsHounds And Won't Tolerate Any Unwarranted Criticism Of Them !

[Bumper64]

Hmmm, Where Do I Start - Ok, I'll Start At The Top And End There .......

How Dare U Come On To This Site And Take A Swipe At Our Yota !

He's The Hardest Working NewsHound There Is - Period !

- CNN

FYI: he/she will not be able to make comments back to you. Don't need people like that here at DV!

This is not the first time he/she has taken shots at Adam.

[OZmosis]

Thank you SWFG and I acknowledge Thug also, for standing by your mates viz Yota and k98knights.  I too, appreciate the efforts of the newshounds and also the honesty of Adam, SWFG and one or two others and for their knowledge and informed opinions they share with us. 

 

However, I am completely fed up with the whacko gurus who put their own vested interests ahead of any sense of integrity or ethics and, day in and day out, lie to us openly and blatantly.  While they might prove to be some comic relief on one level, the reality is that after a while they do get under the skin and I believe that recently the guru's have sunk to a level where they are compromising the essence of what dinarvets is all about.  I also consider that they do much more harm than good and I have expressed that sentiment on threads here on more than one occasion.  I think that providing internet space on this forum for the corrupt gurus is a waste of dinarvet's resources.  Is it time to refuse to give them any more free air space on dinarvets?   At the very least, can we not have a trash can to toss them in, placed down near the lopster bin perhaps.

[SWFloridaGuy]

Hey Ozmosis.  I totally get where you're coming from and I'm kinda torn on the issue myself.  However, lets face it... the rumors are out there.  There's just too many dinar sites and we all know the rumors whether they're posted here or not.  Honestly, I think people like Thug who post the rumors are doing the community a great favor because if this site were void of such ridiculous rumors the only comments the average dinarian would be suseptable to are the.... oh we love you Okie, please bare my children and Bulldog thank you for being my investment prophet and leading me to the promised land nonsense. When someone posts a rumor here it receives an reaction deserving of the content. 

 

This is the only way people will be able to hear both sides. For example: Some OOM idiot sees a link to DV about the a guru rumor and reads it and possibly for the first time his eyes are opened or at the very least he asks the right questions... which of course will lead to him being banned or castrated depending upon Okie's mood. I feel this way because as ashamed as I am to admit it over 2 years ago before I woke up and got banned from OOM I was actually one of those idiots defending him, waking up at 4 am thinking we RVd and waiting for the Hale Bop comet to accend to the heavens on Okie's spaceship. 

 

A couple years ago I used to think Adam Montana and another site were some kind of villians secretly plotting to make us sell dinar, reconstruct the Death Star and end the world as we know it (OOM Brainwash). Anyway, we can't be too harsh on the newbies because we were all their ourselves. This is also a good learning tool because it's one thing to be naive for a few months but when you perpetuate lies for years, there is no other explanation other than... well you already know.  Anyway, if any site ever should keep a rumor section, it's Dinar Vets because this is one place members can learn the truth.  Lemme put it this way... show me one guru rumor calling the rv that could possiblily motivate anyone to go out and spend their life savings on IQD or for that matter ever give origin posteror their chat room the time of day.

[OZmosis]

Hello SWFG.  Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my post.  I DO hear you.  In particular - Thug (CNN) is one of my favourites and his humour helps life my mood when things get a bit slow but I must admit I have struggled as to why some of those gurus raves have ended up here....but, I do understand that they may help those who would otherwise believe the rubbish from those unscrupulous "gurus" - so in that sense Thug's work plays an important part to help us see the reality.    I have had dinar for 9 years.  I used to do a net search every 6 months or so to see if dinar had revalued and inbetween time put it all to the back of my mind.  I then found dinarvets late last year, and quietly read forums before joining as a VIP in January this year.  I have in the past been conned by the bad gurus - so much so I would get very excited and in anticipatory mode, only to be let down - time and time again.  I tried to keep the faith but in fact after a while it just made me sick.  Dinarvets has opened a new world to me, and I am in a much better place being part of dinarvets.  It was very lonely and isolating just doing my own net searches for years on end, without having anyone to trust, or anyone to share this journey with.  I now try to focus on the news and see the progress made the last 6 months in particular - re resolution of oil issues, opening up of air transport, the UK/Iraq visas, focus on infrastructure development, and so on.  I also see that there are still issues to resolve.  However, in my mind I consider, from facts that I have read, that Iraq does want to increase the value of its currency, to improve the quality of life for the Iraqi people, and to achieve its proper status on a global level.  These facts and many more lead me to believe that at some point in time there will be a RV.  Lots of talk right now about the zeros.  I believe that the zeros will have to go - but AFTER a RV - and to me, a RV of 1:1 seems most logical.  I believe this because of the opportunity for Iraq to use a RV process to increase the value of the dinar as this appears to me to be the most beneficial choice that could be made - for Iraq and its people.  I myself am a lay person without credentials - and this is why I enjoy your posts -SWFG - as you back up your opinions with facts and logic...and we can then form our own opinion like I have - whether my opiniont proves to be right or wrong.   This is also why I enjoy reading the top quality debates that regularly emerge unexpectedly on various threads on this forum.  We have a wealth of knowledge here and I am grateful to all of those who contribute their opinions and analysis of news items....I have learned so much in recent months and continue to do so.  I still get really upset that the crazy "gurus" continue to deceive and hurt so many people but now understand that if their comments are posted here that they can be exposed - and maybe that does in fact help people to be more aware and not be enticed to rush out and buy more dinar if they cannot really afford to do so.   

[SWFloridaGuy]

Hello SWFG.  Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my post.  I DO hear you.  In particular - Thug (CNN) is one of my favourites and his humour helps life my mood when things get a bit slow but I must admit I have struggled as to why some of those gurus raves have ended up here....but, I do understand that they may help those who would otherwise believe the rubbish from those unscrupulous "gurus" - so in that sense Thug's work plays an important part to help us see the reality.    I have had dinar for 9 years.  I used to do a net search every 6 months or so to see if dinar had revalued and inbetween time put it all to the back of my mind.  I then found dinarvets late last year, and quietly read forums before joining as a VIP in January this year.  I have in the past been conned by the bad gurus - so much so I would get very excited and in anticipatory mode, only to be let down - time and time again.  I tried to keep the faith but in fact after a while it just made me sick.  Dinarvets has opened a new world to me, and I am in a much better place being part of dinarvets.  It was very lonely and isolating just doing my own net searches for years on end, without having anyone to trust, or anyone to share this journey with.  I now try to focus on the news and see the progress made the last 6 months in particular - re resolution of oil issues, opening up of air transport, the UK/Iraq visas, focus on infrastructure development, and so on.  I also see that there are still issues to resolve.  However, in my mind I consider, from facts that I have read, that Iraq does want to increase the value of its currency, to improve the quality of life for the Iraqi people, and to achieve its proper status on a global level.  These facts and many more lead me to believe that at some point in time there will be a RV.  Lots of talk right now about the zeros.  I believe that the zeros will have to go - but AFTER a RV - and to me, a RV of 1:1 seems most logical.  I believe this because of the opportunity for Iraq to use a RV process to increase the value of the dinar as this appears to me to be the most beneficial choice that could be made - for Iraq and its people.  I myself am a lay person without credentials - and this is why I enjoy your posts -SWFG - as you back up your opinions with facts and logic...and we can then form our own opinion like I have - whether my opiniont proves to be right or wrong.   This is also why I enjoy reading the top quality debates that regularly emerge unexpectedly on various threads on this forum.  We have a wealth of knowledge here and I am grateful to all of those who contribute their opinions and analysis of news items....I have learned so much in recent months and continue to do so.  I still get really upset that the crazy "gurus" continue to deceive and hurt so many people but now understand that if their comments are posted here that they can be exposed - and maybe that does in fact help people to be more aware and not be enticed to rush out and buy more dinar if they cannot really afford to do so.   

Yeah I hear ya man.  Just got done slamming Okie pretty bad on Recaps but doubt it will be approved.  It kind of sucks because I'm usually a relatively happy go lucky fellow and it seems the longer I stay wrapped up in Dinar Land the more bitter I get.  I really like DV though.   I like the mix of intelligent comments, great newshounds, mods and sense of humor.  Anyway  time for me to take a bottle of ZZZQuil and pass out.....zzzzzz

[goldorsilver]

why are some of you people on here so rude to each other? ......yoda does a fantastic job and so does swfg....plus many others. if you dont agree with what they say then go somewhere else......go be a jerk on okie site.

[Silverdinar]

I don't know if what SWAG has said is true, but if it is I want one of them there  "CODE NUMBERS. '' How do you get a membership  into one of these CLUBS and move up to Tier 1. That's where I want  to be when this thing pops.

[Bunk]

why are some of you people on here so rude to each other? ......yoda does a fantastic job and so does swfg....plus many others. if you dont agree with what they say then go somewhere else......go be a jerk on okie site.

You tell em...

[SocalDinar]

Thanks and GM SWFG

You are respected by many here including myself.

Your opinions are always welcome.

Sounds like you have a case of Dinar burnout.

I too get this sometimes and take a break from this but like you I always come back for more.

One way or another there will be an end to this ride.

I'm still ALL IN until they make me get off

PC