msmortgagewiz Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 This is a very long transcript therefore I am posting the link that will direct you to the interview in it's entirety. Again, form your own opinion. http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/01/toppt-transcript-conversation-with.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarDana Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Thanks for sharing, yes this was a long read and I read fast. Interesting, is my comment. I started reading about this about a year ago and lost interest this past fall because I couldn't wrap my head around it. I still have a difficult time with idealism, although I have plenty of my own. To me until I see concrete changes in the systems I will remain a hopeful skeptic. I still log on to my banking web site and see the same balance as yesterday and owing the same to creditors for my homes, college loans and car and I get up in the morning and get in the car, pay for gas and go to work, knowing I am compromising my value to the world because I was born into this system. I didn't have a choice. Occasionally, I can put energy into a creative idea and it gets lost because tomorrow I still have to go to work and have no more time or energy to pursue what I am passionate about. I haven't discounted much, yet, even the dinar, but if this is true. I guess I am surely wasting my time here. :unsure:src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 ***///***/// Sometimes when we're privy to these reports we can't help but open dialogue amongst ourlselves on what it all means exactly.... to us as individuals --- in real time... here & now. Okay, we been set free, so... If you're a slave, enslaved by supposed debt to some other person or entity, that's a slavitude you apparently entered into willingly at the time... agreed to the terms as laid before you... you accepted through your sworn signature (promise)... so why are you not liable for repayment of that debt? :blink:/> Just because a whole bunch of property notes & docs changed hands and nobody can find them today, does that mean we can all just stop paying our mortages as of today? Your attorney can tell a bank in court to piss off because they cannot produce the original docs to prove the debt is owed, okay... but: the debt can be enforced by the Judge because the financial entity may be able to prove that by virtue of your making multiple previous payments, you yourself are acknowledging -- having established by doing so -- owing the debt. So where does it all end...? now your attorney tells the Judge that he/she cannot force you to pay anybody anything ever again because you want him/her (the Judge) to prove that he/she has the power to make you do so? That they cannot because you are a "free Person"....? That the Judge must produce valid documentation that THEY have that supreme power over you?.... :blink:/> the comments submitted below the article included a Brit who tried this in the real here & now.... read what happened to THAT poor bastard. Something's not right with the concept as presented in the article. and the Brit proved it. we move on.... We know that big business & big pharma have it in for the average Joe/Jill in order to keep us controlled for their benefit. If we want to get off THEIR plantation and quit working for them, how exactly does one go about it? If you're a member of what we've come to know as a civilised society, do not certain obligations fall on you to be a participating member of same? If we are all now set free, how do we retain civility? Do we not need law enforcement to retain the peace? (such as it is).... Now who is going to give them the power..? What rights do we now have to keep you from harming us? And who is in authority to say you must'nt?..... :blink:/> What about all the loonies & nutzos & crazies.... how do we protect ourselves from THEM? and who's to decide who the loonies, nutzos & crazies are? Hey... whose in charge...?!!!!!!! When referring to us all as FREE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD now, are they not taking into consideration the dysfunctional elements of the global population? People will always be able to be enslaved by their own kind. Happens every day.... Us to our U.S. Government through deceit (especially through taxation without representation...), Iranians to Amadininut.... billions of Chinese to some inanimate commie entity so they can't stop a highway going through their chicken farm.... :mellow:/> Does mankind require leadership? Does each individual human being require someone to boss them around? And does that make that person a slave because he/She's beholden to someone to protect him/her? Hard to be free when you got people with guns, planes and tanks chasing you telling you you'd better do this or that or else. :blink:/> So... Give us each our 500 million and set us loose like so many free-ranging yard birds and watch how fast it all comes unglued, folks. There's a reason mankind has been so easily manipulated for so long. Ushering in a new day, a new freedom, a new world, an equitable one at that, is wrought with difficulty --- as it has everything to do with human nature... and we're the most inhumane animal on this planet. A lot in that "conversation" seemed to hinge on all us freed slaves acting with Grace and Dignity -- with mutual respect --- we all know that ain't how we're wired. T'ain't gonna be all rainbows n' unicorns, kids. It brings with it a whole other set of problems.... So, we get to take all the gold away from those who've been hoarding it all this time and divvy it up amongst ourselves... 500 million a piece.... :)/> yup.... as soon as you get yours you just know some crackhead from across town is gonna cruise into yer neighborhood and take it away from you. :lol:/> :P/> ***/// The More You Know ;)/> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog53 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 This post is simply to stupid to respond too. WHOOPS !!!! guess I just did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothsdad Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 ***///***/// Sometimes when we're privy to these reports we can't help but open dialogue amongst ourlselves on what it all means exactly.... to us as individuals --- in real time... here & now. Okay, we been set free, so... If you're a slave, enslaved by supposed debt to some other person or entity, that's a slavitude you apparently entered into willingly at the time... agreed to the terms as laid before you... you accepted through your sworn signature (promise)... so why are you not liable for repayment of that debt? :blink:/>/> Just because a whole bunch of property notes & docs changed hands and nobody can find them today, does that mean we can all just stop paying our mortages as of today? Your attorney can tell a bank in court to piss off because they cannot produce the original docs to prove the debt is owed, okay... but: the debt can be enforced by the Judge because the financial entity may be able to prove that by virtue of your making multiple previous payments, you yourself are acknowledging -- having established by doing so -- owing the debt. So where does it all end...? now your attorney tells the Judge that he/she cannot force you to pay anybody anything ever again because you want him/her (the Judge) to prove that he/she has the power to make you do so? That they cannot because you are a "free Person"....? That the Judge must produce valid documentation that THEY have that supreme power over you?.... :blink:/>/> the comments submitted below the article included a Brit who tried this in the real here & now.... read what happened to THAT poor bastard. Something's not right with the concept as presented in the article. and the Brit proved it. we move on.... We know that big business & big pharma have it in for the average Joe/Jill in order to keep us controlled for their benefit. If we want to get off THEIR plantation and quit working for them, how exactly does one go about it? If you're a member of what we've come to know as a civilised society, do not certain obligations fall on you to be a participating member of same? If we are all now set free, how do we retain civility? Do we not need law enforcement to retain the peace? (such as it is).... Now who is going to give them the power..? What rights do we now have to keep you from harming us? And who is in authority to say you must'nt?..... :blink:/>/> What about all the loonies & nutzos & crazies.... how do we protect ourselves from THEM? and who's to decide who the loonies, nutzos & crazies are? Hey... whose in charge...?!!!!!!! When referring to us all as FREE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD now, are they not taking into consideration the dysfunctional elements of the global population? People will always be able to be enslaved by their own kind. Happens every day.... Us to our U.S. Government through deceit (especially through taxation without representation...), Iranians to Amadininut.... billions of Chinese to some inanimate commie entity so they can't stop a highway going through their chicken farm.... :mellow:/>/> Does mankind require leadership? Does each individual human being require someone to boss them around? And does that make that person a slave because he/She's beholden to someone to protect him/her? Hard to be free when you got people with guns, planes and tanks chasing you telling you you'd better do this or that or else. :blink:/>/> So... Give us each our 500 million and set us loose like so many free-ranging yard birds and watch how fast it all comes unglued, folks. There's a reason mankind has been so easily manipulated for so long. Ushering in a new day, a new freedom, a new world, an equitable one at that, is wrought with difficulty --- as it has everything to do with human nature... and we're the most inhumane animal on this planet. A lot in that "conversation" seemed to hinge on all us freed slaves acting with Grace and Dignity -- with mutual respect --- we all know that ain't how we're wired. T'ain't gonna be all rainbows n' unicorns, kids. It brings with it a whole other set of problems.... So, we get to take all the gold away from those who've been hoarding it all this time and divvy it up amongst ourselves... 500 million a piece.... :)/>/> yup.... as soon as you get yours you just know some crackhead from across town is gonna cruise into yer neighborhood and take it away from you. :lol:/>/> :P/>/> ***/// The More You Know ;)/>/> You make some good points. However along with the freedom that they mention in the financial area, there is also the freedom to all the shelved technology that could warp speed the world into the future. I haven't seen any, I've only heard of it. But if it's true then the money becomes a non factor. Who really cares about stealing someones gold when you have a place to live, a vehicle, and a whole lot of good food in the fridge. Also, it seems to me that most of these crazies are CIA created. They continue the illusion that you are not safe in a theater. You are not safe in a school. You are not safe in your own skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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