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#1 divemaster5734

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:36 PM

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This was sent to me from a friend that is not invested and refused to invest when I discussed the Dinar with him.
He is a financial planner, and does very well for himself.

I have heard, just like the rest of you, about global monetary overhauls for a couple years.
The news was always attached to some self proclaimed "guru" or some global consciousness thing.

I have never heard this from non-invested serious money people before.

I wont venture to guess anything other than to say it would make a LOT of sense to have an RV right now, it's probably the only chance obots have to get the clown re-elected.






CNBC Stand-In Reporter Admits Financial System Changeover: “They’re Going to Put the Old System In a Coma”!


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From the CNBC show Squawk Box – August 10, 2012

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000108212

Stephen: This IS amazing! A stand-in finance reporter for CNBC, Kevin Ferry from Kronus Futures Management – after being told, bizarrely, by Squawk Box host Joe Kernen, twice, “whatever you do don’t screw this up” – has just disclosed that the current financial system and, importantly, the Libor, is about to be overhauled.

After saying that a Pandora’s Box is going to be opened up in the Libor area (in reference to the separate story posted below on the subpoenas now heading JP Morgan Chase’s way) Kevin Ferry told Joe Kernen – and the rest of us: “I think what they’re going to do, Joe, is basically put the old system in a coma, and work to devise something that’s a little bit better, and it’s going to be tricky.”

Essentially, he is saying that things are going to be seriously overhauled.

Separately, I have personally heard from several different sources in the past two days, that big things are about to happen this coming week with regards the world’s financial system. A good weekend indeed!

Edited by divemaster5734, 12 August 2012 - 05:38 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:38 PM

Yep i believe this is coming i dont know about next week but i sure hope its true. Thanks for the post.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

Thanks for the post, I'm ready for a change. :twothumbs:
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:59 PM

that would be very cool if ,,, iraq ,,, the dong ,,, the south won ,, and a few others went over the .ooo mark ,,,, but that is a streach ,,, hope they don`t go in reverse
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:07 PM

Yep i believe this is coming i dont know about next week but i sure hope its true. Thanks for the post.

From what I gather they're just going to "reboot" the system without changing the rates that were fraudulent.I fail to see where this is going to help anywhere or anyone without resetting the rates to where they should have been all along.Maybe you might have some ideas or could clarify how this is going to change our current situation? Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this Easy.. :peace:
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:57 PM

From what I gather they're just going to "reboot" the system without changing the rates that were fraudulent.I fail to see where this is going to help anywhere or anyone without resetting the rates to where they should have been all along.Maybe you might have some ideas or could clarify how this is going to change our current situation? Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this Easy.. :peace:


I believe that countries can no longer back their currency 100% any longer its just not working any longer and the debt is beyond recognition so that leaves us with Assets backing their currencies so if this is put in place that will determine countries exchange rates and well that would mean a reset.

Edited by easyrider, 12 August 2012 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:02 PM

Thanks for the post. Had to look up LIBOR.

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The Libor gets its name from the City of London, one of the largest financial centers in the world.

The London Interbank Offered Rate is the average interest rate estimated by leading banks in London that they would be charged if borrowing from other banks.[1] It is usually abbreviated to Libor (play /ˈlaɪbɔr/) or LIBOR, or more officially to BBA Libor (for British Bankers' Association Libor) or the trademark bbalibor. It is the primary benchmark, along with the Euribor, for short term interest rates around the world.[2][3]

Libor rates are calculated for ten different currencies and 15 borrowing periods ranging from overnight to one year and are published daily at 11:30 am (London time) by Thomson Reuters.[4][5] Many financial institutions, mortgage lenders and credit card agencies set their own rates relative to it. At least $350 trillion in derivatives and other financial products are tied to the Libor.[6]

Introduction

In 1984, it became apparent that an increasing number of banks were trading actively in a variety of relatively new market instruments, notably interest rate swaps, foreign currency options and forward rate agreements. While recognizing that such instruments brought more business and greater depth to the London Interbank market, bankers worried that future growth could be inhibited unless a measure of uniformity was introduced. In October 1984, the British Bankers' Association (BBA)—working with other parties, such as the Bank of England—established various working parties, which eventually culminated in the production of the BBA standard for interest rate swaps, or "BBAIRS" terms. Part of this standard included the fixing of BBA interest-settlement rates, the predecessor of BBA Libor. From 2 September 1985, the BBAIRS terms became standard market practice. BBA Libor fixings did not commence officially before 1 January 1986. Before that date, however, some rates were fixed for a trial period commencing in December 1984.

Member banks are international in scope, with more than sixty nations represented among its 223 members and 37 associated professional firms as of 2008. Eighteen banks for example currently contribute to the fixing of US Dollar Libor. The panel contains the following member banks:[10]
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:04 PM

I believe that countries can no longer back their currency 100% any longer its just not working any longer and the debt is beyond recognition so that leaves us with Assets backing their currencies so if this is put in place that will determine countries exchange rates and well that would mean a reset.

I'm with you on that, something has to give to lessen the blows from all the overt spending running rampant these days.Do you think the re introduction to the Glass-Steagall act along with this reset, that we would be on the right track? I welcome your opinion on this as well as others who are familiar with what all has been going on with this matter as of late,Thanks for getting back to me Easy, always a pleasure. :peace:
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:08 PM

I'm with you on that, something has to give to lessen the blows from all the overt spending running rampant these days.Do you think the re introduction to the Glass-Steagall act along with this reset, that we would be on the right track? I welcome your opinion on this as well as others who are familiar with what all has been going on with this matter as of late,Thanks for getting back to me Easy, always a pleasure. :peace:



How It Works/Example:

Currency can be either fiat or tied to an underlying asset. Fiat money has no intrinsic value and is backed by the full faith and credit of the issuing government. That is, this type of currency is not worth very much in terms of its value as a raw material. Most paper money is fiat money, and its value comes from what it represents rather than what it is. Asset-backed currencies tied to gold, silver or other valuable commodities are rare in present day markets.

Why It Matters:

Currency serves an important role in an economy, and has three universally accepted economic advantages: it acts as a medium of exchange, a store of value, and a standard of value. Meaning it allows buyers and sellers to quickly arrive at comparative prices instead of haggling over how many of one good is worth compared to an unlimited number of others.

It is important to remember, though, that fiat money is only as good as the organization that issues it. If the entity defaults, the currency is worthless.

My thoughts: Basically if they default the Euro then thats where we are headed for sure. I have believed for some years now the Fiat system has slowly deteriorated and basically has been holding on by a thread, now its coming to an end imho.

Not familiar with that act but i will read into it and get back to ya on what i think :)

Edited by easyrider, 12 August 2012 - 07:11 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:19 PM

Definition of 'Glass-Steagall Act'
An act passed by Congress in 1933 that prohibited commercial banks from collaborating with full-service brokerage firms or participating in investment banking activities

The Glass-Steagall Act was enacted during the Great Depression. It protected bank depositors from the additional risks associated with security transactions. The act was dismantled in 1999. Consequently, the distinction between commercial banks and brokerage firms has blurred; many banks own brokerage firms and provide investment services.

Source: http://www.investope...p#axzz23O9yUBX7
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:24 PM

Thanks Easy: I just read the same thing in Rumormillnews. What I was wondering is whether this overhaul of the "old"system, only effects the rate change created by the recent revelation about the Libor rate fraud, as was mentioned or would it also include issuance of the new "US Treasury Note that is alleged to replace the fiat US Reserve Note that is about to fall?

Seems to me...that if they were going to reset the worlds economy and put it in a coma in order to figure out what to do, that they would certainly consider another contributing factor...that is the fiat Reserve Note. With our government being controlled by the New World order fascist criminals it makes me wonder who is it that is steering our economy? Certainly "someone" is making determinations and decisions supposedly on the behalf of the american people.

What ever happens I hope it's for the best and that the Banker Gangsters are taken down. And, that those who sold out our country and it's people for forty coins of silver meet the justice that has been long overdue. This includes most of our elected officials in Washington, and the heads of every bank in the country, and the heads of most Corporations, especial those involved in the manufacturing and sale of military weapons and equipment, and every lobbyist in the country.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:46 AM

IMF release on Friday


The Chicago Plan Revisited


Summary:At the height of the Great Depression a number of leading U.S. economists advanced a proposal for monetary reform that became known as the Chicago Plan. It envisaged the separation of the monetary and credit functions of the banking system, by requiring 100% reserve backing for deposits. Irving Fisher (1936) claimed the following advantages for this plan: (1) Much better control of a major source of business cycle fluctuations, sudden increases and contractions of bank credit and of the supply of bank-created money. (2) Complete elimination of bank runs. (3) Dramatic reduction of the (net) public debt. (4) Dramatic reduction of private debt, as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation. We study these claims by embedding a comprehensive and carefully calibrated model of the banking system in a DSGE model of the U.S. economy. We find support for all four of Fisher's claims. Furthermore, output gains approach 10 percent, and steady state inflation can drop to zero without posing problems for the conduct of monetary policy.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:01 PM

Are The Government And The Big Banks Quietly Preparing For An Imminent Financial Collapse?

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August 13, 2012
Something really strange appears to be happening. All over the globe, governments and big banks are acting as if they are anticipating an imminent financial collapse.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the quiet conversations that are taking place in corporate boardrooms and in the halls of power in places such as Washington D.C. and London, so all we can do is try to make sense of all the clues that are all around us. Of course it is completely possible to misinterpret these clues, but sticking our heads in the sand is not going to do any good either. Last week, it was revealed that the U.S. government has been secretly directing five of the biggest banks in America “to develop plans for staving off collapse” for the last two years. By itself, that wouldn’t be that big of a deal. But when you add that piece to the dozens of other clues of imminent financial collapse, a very troubling picture begins to emerge. Over the past 12 months, hundreds of banking executives have been resigning, corporate insiders have been selling off enormous amounts of stock, and I have been personally told that a significant number of Wall Street bankers have been shopping for “prepper properties” in rural communities this summer. Meanwhile, there have been reports that the U.S. government has been stockpiling food and ammunition, and Barack Obama has been signing a whole bunch of executive orders that would potentially be implemented in the event of a major meltdown of society. So what does all of this mean? It could mean something or it could mean nothing. What we do know is that a financial collapse is coming at some point. Over the past 40 years, the total amount of all debt in the United States has grown from about 2 trillion dollars to nearly 55 trillion dollars. That is a recipe for financial armageddon, and it is inevitable that this gigantic bubble of debt is going to burst at some point.
In normal times, the U.S. government does not tell major banks to “develop plans for staving off collapse”.
But according to a recent Reuters article, that is apparently exactly what has been happening….
U.S. regulators directed five of the country’s biggest banks, including Bank of America Corp and Goldman Sachs Group Inc, to develop plans for staving off collapse if they faced serious problems, emphasizing that the banks could not count on government help.
The two-year-old program, which has been largely secret until now, is in addition to the “living wills” the banks crafted to help regulators dismantle them if they actually do fail. It shows how hard regulators are working to ensure that banks have plans for worst-case scenarios and can act rationally in times of distress.
Does it seem odd to anyone else that only five really big banks got such a warning?
And why keep it secret from the American public?
Does the federal government actually expect such a collapse to happen?
If federal officials do expect a financial collapse to occur, they would not be the only ones. An increasing number of very respected economists are speaking about the coming financial collapse as if there is a certain inevitability about it.
For example, check out the following quote from a recent Money Morning article….
Richard Duncan, formerly of the World Bank and chief economist at Blackhorse Asset Mgmt., says America’s $16 trillion federal debt has escalated into a “death spiral,” as he told CNBC.
And it could result in a depression so severe that he doesn’t “think our civilization could survive it.”
A former World Bank executive is warning that our civilization might not survive what is coming?
That is pretty chilling.
Economist Nouriel Roubini says that he believes that the coming crisis will be even worse than 2008….
“Worse because like 2008 you will have an economic and financial crisis but unlike 2008, you are running out of policy bullets. In 2008, you could cut rates; do QE1, QE2; you could do fiscal stimulus; you could backstop/ringfence/guarantee banks and everybody else. Today, more QEs are becoming less and less effective because the problems are of solvency not liquidity. Fiscal deficits are already so large and you cannot bail out the banks because 1) there is a political opposition to it; and 2) governments are near-insolvent – they cannot bailout themselves let alone their banks.The problem is that we are running out of policy rabbits to pull out of the hat!”
Across the pond, many European officials are echoing similar sentiments.
What Nigel Farage told King World News the other day is very ominous….
Today MEP (Member European Parliament) Nigel Farage spoke with King World News about what he described as the possibility of, “a really dramatic banking collapse.” Farage also warned that central planners want to enslave and imprison people inside of a ‘New Order,’ and he described the situation as “horrifying.”
The situation in Europe continues to get worse and worse. The authorities in Europe have come out with “solution” after “solution”, and yet unemployment continues to skyrocket and economic conditions in the EU have deteriorated very steadily over the past 12 months.
If all of that was not bad enough, there are an increasing number of indications that Germany is actually considering leaving the euro.
Needless to say, that would be a complete and total disaster for the rest of the eurozone.
Of course there are any number of ways that the financial crisis in Europe could potentially play out.
But all of the realistic scenarios would be very bad for the global economy.
Meanwhile, our resources are dwindling, war in the Middle East could erupt at any moment and our planet is becoming increasingly unstable. The following is from a recent article by Paul B. Farrell on Marketwatch.com….
Fasten your seat belts, soon we’ll all be shocked out of denial. Some unpredictable black swan. A global wake-up call will trigger the Pentagon’s prediction in Fortune a decade ago at the launch of the Iraq War: “By 2020 … an ancient pattern of desperate, all-out wars over food, water, and energy supplies is emerging … warfare defining human life.”
It is almost as if a “perfect storm” is brewing.
Of course the historic drought that is ravaging food production in the United States this summer is not helping matters either. Another summer or two like this one and we could be looking at a return of Dust Bowl conditions.
Anyone that is watching what is going on in the world and is not concerned at all about what is happening is simply being delusional.
Recently, a “team of scientists, economists, and geopolitical analysts” examined the current state of the global economic system and the conclusions they reached were absolutely staggering….
One member of this team, Chris Martenson, a pathologist and former VP of a Fortune 300 company, explains their findings:
“We found an identical pattern in our debt, total credit market, and money supply that guarantees they’re going to fail. This pattern is nearly the same as in any pyramid scheme, one that escalates exponentially fast before it collapses. Governments around the globe are chiefly responsible.
“And what’s really disturbing about these findings is that the pattern isn’t limited to our economy. We found the same catastrophic pattern in our energy, food, and water systems as well.”
According to Martenson: “These systems could all implode at the same time. Food, water, energy, money. Everything.”
Hmmmm – it sounds like they have been reading The Economic Collapse Blog.
The truth is that a massive worldwide financial collapse is coming.
It is inevitable, and it is going to be extremely painful.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:12 PM

:( We never heard much before the 2008 collapse, why would they tell us now?
Scary stuff.. Gotta get out of the city!

Thanks Flyhigh, :( :(
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:48 PM

We can only hope !!!
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