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[TPSprayduster]

Hey TD again this is your perception. I think I have tried to make this point in the past with you. I enjoy these posts, I think critically and if there is sh***t going on on the fringe of norm, I am interested in learning about the nature of people. And I have been around long enough to see that anything is possible. I never thought I would experience enough in life to say the things that my grandparents once said. My children behave and say the things you say, having a very narrow view of what is going on outside of their world. Do you really have all the answers? Does anyone? If you don't have the time or inclination to do the research to find the truth in postings of this nature, why bother even commenting or defaming the posters character?

This post made by Scrum is important because this person Drake has caught the attention of many, many who are feeling hopeless about our future. And it is not Scrums reputation we are judging here but the person who is spewing this information to the masses. Critical thinkers can think rationally for themselves therefore we need not put blame on a poster, please allow me and others who have this ability to continue to think critically. If this is not your thing, move on, please stop putting your pee pee all over the thread. This is not kind or thoughtful. We have lost some interesting folks here on this forum because of this judgmental behavior. Have a nice day tomorrow and see that cute pup, she sends dog kisses. peace

Good Morning, if i searched high and low i can find an different opinion concerning any of this articles posted on You Tube. That is why i never go there unless i am looking for a flop that lebron james did or something Chris bosh done because it was hilarious and entertainment. Now some of the articles which you said you enjoy in my opinion only are out there. Now if the Government was planning a complete take over in 2012, do you not think the GOP would have there dung together so they can control the House, Senate and Presidency. If so then their is your club to ward off a takeover don't you think. The Democrats could not oppose anything that was GOP sponsored.

However, when you get distractions which are primarily on You Tube because main stream media won't touch these ideas they migrate there. If you so remember Y2J in 1999 everyone thought the world was going to end computer stop working, mayhem, chaos ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh everyone bought guns, survivor food, books on surviving moved to the hills, barricaded the doors and waited for Midnight. 2000, the crystal ball dropped in Manhattan the lights did not go out and wow 2000 nothing stop working. But it was Y2K scare which had everyone up in arms the survivalist dealers made a killing and those who took it hook, line, sinker and the whole boat were left with food guns and behind on there bills. Please i am not preventing you to think critically, that is your right. I won't respond anymore to poster X. I have been asked not to and i won't. We lost some interesting folks who forgot this is a private site and believed they were untouchable. But in closing i am sorry if you think i am the bad guy here. A lot of folks think that way. But what if and just what if these stories are complete falsies. But you do write well in away of telling to be quiet and don't respond. So basically as one mod said before if i or some others are instigators then where is the free speech? Have a nice day. By the way read my post and read some of the others if you think what i say to people is bad, then boy what they say about me must be enough to be put in jail. No worries, Be happy.

[rothsdad]

This storm may just be nothing, but I find it very odd the lack in coverage of it. I've seen hardly any live reports about it. I've not seen one live politician speaking about it and you know they are not shy of getting a PR shot handing out water bottles. 3 million people at with out electricity in this heat is kind of a big deal. The storm happened at 9 Friday night and the first Fox news alert I saw on it was 4 the next day. I could just be completely wrong but it just doesn't look right to me.

[DinarDana]

Good Morning, if i searched high and low i can find an different opinion concerning any of this articles posted on You Tube. That is why i never go there unless i am looking for a flop that lebron james did or something Chris bosh done because it was hilarious and entertainment. Now some of the articles which you said you enjoy in my opinion only are out there.

Few things I would like you to understand:
1. I do not think you are a bad guy. Nope I wouldn't send you dog kisses if I thought that. I do feel you are making judgements. This doesn't make one bad. It makes one immature. Furthermore I do not have enough information about you to make any judgement of your character based on the facts you are just the guy who likes to hijack Scrum's threads. This is all I know.

2. Just because I enjoy reading or watching YouTube videos and discussing them with the folks on this thread does not mean you have the right to judge me or the poster of the article. Do you know my opinion? Conspiracy theories are interesting, but I really like scientific theories best.

We absolutely have things to worry about, and much of it may be outside of your belief system, but it is within in mine to question everything, because much what we are told is a perception. I worked in marketing for a good part of my career and I know how to twist one's perception to get you to buy something you don't need. I know how to represent a company or an idea to twist the facts so you have a different perception from the truth, of course this is done with supplying a few facts along with the fluff or bullsh*t. Now what I learned from this video is a good lesson, people are tired of what is going on, people are looking for a way to make it stop, they feel so hopeless and helpless they will latch on to someone with a good "story". Now if our economy was good and folks were busy, we wouldn't care, would we?

Now I would like to address this situation with the strange weather. Yes I did notice there was no coverage on this 700 mile storm. I think this is because it was so sudden, it couldn't be predicted and when we hear coverage for weather we are used to the three day media hype before it arrives and then the three day coverage to review the details of the damage. This storm was described in wikipedia and I believe this "type" of storm has been named in 2005. I have never seen clouds like the photo I posted, not in my entire life, but I live in the North, I do think the cloud formations look different in the midwest?? I would be interested in hearing the scientific explanation of this type of storm. My feeling there are some atmospheric changes caused by planetary alignments amongst other critical influences beyond our control. I don't think this is a HARP operation. I have been researching the global changes and there are theories and speculation, too many, I think there are many scientists who do know the truth but cannot speak up because if it is outside the norm of their peers, they will be ridiculed and judged.

[Maggie123]

Well Said DinarDana!

[rothsdad]

Dana, I agree with your last post. I don't think TPS, cris or jonjon are at all bad guys. I think they may be a little close minded in some instances but that is okay. I see myself in them because I was just that way a few years back. But something changed in me. I thought to myself "What do I have to worry about if I am wrong?" I am not running for office. And I will be the first to admit that I am as full of sh## as anybody. But sometimes I am right and I have learned to question just about everything that's been told to us. I am no longer in the box. I think we should put ourselves in others shoes to know our "enemies". Also we need to look at all angles of science. You will discover so much.

[rothsdad]

I also think that some of us who are bringing the info out need to have a little thicker skin. It's okay to be wrong and be very weary of attaching yourself to anybodies movement whether it be RP or Drake or Mitt Romney.

[Scrumdiddles]

Hey TD again this is your perception. I think I have tried to make this point in the past with you. I enjoy these posts, I think critically and if there is sh***t going on on the fringe of norm, I am interested in learning about the nature of people. And I have been around long enough to see that anything is possible. I never thought I would experience enough in life to say the things that my grandparents once said. My children behave and say the things you say, having a very narrow view of what is going on outside of their world. Do you really have all the answers? Does anyone? If you don't have the time or inclination to do the research to find the truth in postings of this nature, why bother even commenting or defaming the posters character?

This post made by Scrum is important because this person Drake has caught the attention of many, many who are feeling hopeless about our future. And it is not Scrums reputation we are judging here but the person who is spewing this information to the masses. Critical thinkers can think rationally for themselves therefore we need not put blame on a poster, please allow me and others who have this ability to continue to think critically. If this is not your thing, move on, please stop putting your pee pee all over the thread. This is not kind or thoughtful. We have lost some interesting folks here on this forum because of this judgmental behavior. Have a nice day tomorrow and see that cute pup, she sends dog kisses. peace

Thank you DInarDana, beautifully said.

[DWitte]

Hey TPS, I wanted to let you know that I happen to agree with you. But before I go any further, I'd like to let the rest here that I don't necessarily disagree with them. I was gonna write more but I thought better of it. Realistic opinions are one thing, nonsense is another. And yes there is a difference. And when someone brings something here, they put their name on it. There are proper ways to post things that you may not agree with. Copy, paste and post with your name on it means you're gonna take the heat for it.

[TPSprayduster]

Few things I would like you to understand:
1. I do not think you are a bad guy. Nope I wouldn't send you dog kisses if I thought that. I do feel you are making judgements. This doesn't make one bad. It makes one immature. Furthermore I do not have enough information about you to make any judgement of your character based on the facts you are just the guy who likes to hijack Scrum's threads. This is all I know.

2. Just because I enjoy reading or watching YouTube videos and discussing them with the folks on this thread does not mean you have the right to judge me or the poster of the article. Do you know my opinion? Conspiracy theories are interesting, but I really like scientific theories best.

We absolutely have things to worry about, and much of it may be outside of your belief system, but it is within in mine to question everything, because much what we are told is a perception. I worked in marketing for a good part of my career and I know how to twist one's perception to get you to buy something you don't need. I know how to represent a company or an idea to twist the facts so you have a different perception from the truth, of course this is done with supplying a few facts along with the fluff or bullsh*t. Now what I learned from this video is a good lesson, people are tired of what is going on, people are looking for a way to make it stop, they feel so hopeless and helpless they will latch on to someone with a good "story". Now if our economy was good and folks were busy, we wouldn't care, would we?

Now I would like to address this situation with the strange weather. Yes I did notice there was no coverage on this 700 mile storm. I think this is because it was so sudden, it couldn't be predicted and when we hear coverage for weather we are used to the three day media hype before it arrives and then the three day coverage to review the details of the damage. This storm was described in wikipedia and I believe this "type" of storm has been named in 2005. I have never seen clouds like the photo I posted, not in my entire life, but I live in the North, I do think the cloud formations look different in the midwest?? I would be interested in hearing the scientific explanation of this type of storm. My feeling there are some atmospheric changes caused by planetary alignments amongst other critical influences beyond our control. I don't think this is a HARP operation. I have been researching the global changes and there are theories and speculation, too many, I think there are many scientists who do know the truth but cannot speak up because if it is outside the norm of their peers, they will be ridiculed and judged.

If i was hijacking that guys post then i would be off the topic, i challenge his beliefs isn't that called democracy and free speech. If none challenged post then everyone would just move along and say yes that 700 mile storm was man made!!!!! But i never said anything about it because why be accused of yet again stirring the pot!!!! While in church today i thought about that guy and how he tends to get mad when challenged. Anger is not sin, but don't let the sun set on your anger!!!! As for beliefs and ideas everyone has them, but if you do be prepared for someone to challenge you and if you are not up to defended what you post then why post. As responding to the reason why people choose to follow these stories, if the economy was good no one would care about them, well i agree but to keep it real some don't really want a job as long as they are getting unemployment. Sad but true, one of the reasons i don't like my job is because i have to travel so much but it is important i provide for my family. But Dana you are right, people will latch on to anything that replace hopeless, like some of those stories, like obama is a muslim, some people still believe that. But again you are right, i am not as open minded as some and somethings i don't believe. That guy has his beliefs and i have mine. I don't judge people i call it like i see it. Maybe that is my fault that i am like that because my military career taught me that what's in front of me is the objective and how i get there i need to get my marines their without putting in in danger but they also understood that what we were tasked with was dangerous. So that is why i don't follow along unless i know what i am dealing with not because someone says i should. Thank you for encouraging me to think.

Hey TPS, I wanted to let you know that I happen to agree with you. But before I go any further, I'd like to let the rest here that I don't necessarily disagree with them. I was gonna write more but I thought better of it. Realistic opinions are one thing, nonsense is another. And yes there is a difference. And when someone brings something here, they put their name on it. There are proper ways to post things that you may not agree with. Copy, paste and post with your name on it means you're gonna take the heat for it.

I evened you out, some folks do not thick skin and i do agree with your statement, if you are not willing to be challenged then don't post it. Thank you for your post.

[DinarDana]

If i was hijacking that guys post then i would be off the topic.

I apologize, hijack was an incorrect term. I thank you for being a true authentic person, I believe you are absolutely right about what your job requires of you and this certainly forms the way you think most of the time. I get it, really I understand, his was incredibly mature of you and heartfelt to think critically. I admire that you have this understanding, and I appreciate all you do for this country. If it wasn't for folks like you I may not have the freedom to express my opinion.

I was born with a natural curiosity to question everything. I think I annoyed my parents when I was a child because they couldn't answer my questions. I haven't stopped with that curiosity, I have been a truth seeker my whole life.

I was one of the lucky people who had Internet before it was the WWW and I loved the fact I didn't have to go to the library, I had so much information at my fingertips to feed my addiction of learning and questioning. There is a lot out there and weaving through the Bullsh*t is my challenge.

Ok now, I just want to share with you that Mitt Romney was the governor of my state. I have one positive thing to say about him, he changed Massachusetts politics and the "ole boy" network, he took some of the criminals out of politics. He disrupted the democratic regime.

Peace!

Regarding the weather here is a great link that explains this weather pattern that caused so much destruction.

[DinarDana]

Dana, I agree with your last post. I don't think TPS, cris or jonjon are at all bad guys. I think they may be a little close minded in some instances but that is okay. I see myself in them because I was just that way a few years back. But something changed in me. I thought to myself "What do I have to worry about if I am wrong?" I am not running for office. And I will be the first to admit that I am as full of sh## as anybody. But sometimes I am right and I have learned to question just about everything that's been told to us. I am no longer in the box. I think we should put ourselves in others shoes to know our "enemies". Also we need to look at all angles of science. You will discover so much.

Agree, we need to know our enemies. Failure is not an option, knowledge is power. I could never stay in the box, thank goodness I was taught respect and manners or I would have always been in trouble. Look all of us are are sharing the same threads, I think respect is due and we need to come to an understanding of each other if we want to continue learning together. I look forward to winding down a few nights a week and I come here to this forum to catch up on the dinar and I look for Scrum's posts so I can feed my addiction for a few hours before I retire for the evening. Look it's Scrum's posts or Housewives of New Jersey, Orange County, New York or Atlanta - We know what is more hazardous to my brain -

Thank you everyone, peace and

Edited by DinarDana, 01 July 2012 - 08:44 PM.

[Maggie123]

TP I appreciate your explianation of where you are coming from. Thank You

Please accept my bad spelling, I'm working on it.

The point is "we need to come to an understanding of each other if we want to continue learning together" Thank You Dinar Dana Pretty Profound Words.

[TPSprayduster]

TP I appreciate your explianation of where you are coming from. Thank You

Please accept my bad spelling, I'm working on it.

The point is "we need to come to an understanding of each other if we want to continue learning together" Thank You Dinar Dana Pretty Profound Words.

I understand you clearly, now if all of us would allow each other to think as they want then we would have a happy play ground. That war of words with that guy is over. Time to move on to bigger and better things. Example, 40oz i can deal with, he can get twisted off at times but at least he listen to reason. I know he is a die hard supporter of Dr Paul and i salute him for that. But as the voters have voted i believe and this is me only we should unite the party hit the democrats on the issues and take back the White House and Congress. When we get off topic, then we have issues with whose right and whose wrong. IF we stay divide then it is an easy 4 more years. This is my opinion and i have approved this message. Any twisting of my post is not my opinion.

[DWitte]

Agree, we need to know our enemies. Failure is not an option, knowledge is power. I could never stay in the box, thank goodness I was taught respect and manners or I would have always been in trouble. Look all of us are are sharing the same threads, I think respect is due and we need to come to an understanding of each other if we want to continue learning together. I look forward to winding down a few nights a week and I come here to this forum to catch up on the dinar and I look for Scrum's posts so I can feed my addiction for a few hours before I retire for the evening. Look it's Scrum's posts or Housewives of New Jersey, Orange County, New York or Atlanta - We know what is more hazardous to my brain -

Thank you everyone, peace and

For what's it worth Miss Dinar Dana, Excellent job. Nuff said. End

[rightsonword]

What i find funny is that Scrum is supposedly on TPS's ignore list, yet TPS always comments on Scrums threads or posts. It's really not that hard to ignore someone you've supposedly want to ignore. *face palm*

[Maggie123]

What i find funny is that Scrum is supposedly on TPS's ignore list, yet TPS always comments on Scrums threads or posts. It's really not that hard to ignore someone you've supposedly want to ignore. *face palm*

Rights on Word I very much like the points you bring in by the way.

Can you imagine if we didn't have these threads without him? It would be quiet!

[Maggie123]

I understand you clearly, now if all of us would allow each other to think as they want then we would have a happy play ground. That war of words with that guy is over. Time to move on to bigger and better things. Example, 40oz i can deal with, he can get twisted off at times but at least he listen to reason. I know he is a die hard supporter of Dr Paul and i salute him for that. But as the voters have voted i believe and this is me only we should unite the party hit the democrats on the issues and take back the White House and Congress. When we get off topic, then we have issues with whose right and whose wrong. IF we stay divide then it is an easy 4 more years. This is my opinion and i have approved this message. Any twisting of my post is not my opinion.

TP You have ONLY one agenda and that is Clear! You say... you have respect for 40oz but I have seen different. Just an observasion.

I have also seen your war EVERYTIME! Scrums makes a post. Now I see the value in it and I sure hope he does too. It has helped me to look at things that I might of not otherwise looked at. I have respect for your opinions but allow others to voice theirs without being attacked!

LETS STOP TWISTING POST! I agree! Lets look for solutions.

[DinarDana]

TP I appreciate your explianation of where you are coming from. Thank You

Please accept my bad spelling, I'm working on it.

The point is "we need to come to an understanding of each other if we want to continue learning together" Thank You Dinar Dana Pretty Profound Words.

Thank you.

Let me help you with that spelling issue if I may. When you type and see a red dotted line under a word, click on the word with the dotted line and then left click on your mouse - a list should appear and you can choose the correct spelling. Most browsers have spell check. I cannot type, I can spell, so I often make lots of typos and have to go back and correct. I actually failed typing. Funny thing I never thought that I would spend half my day using a keyboard.


Back to the topic Scrum posted, does anyone here think that maybe Drake is Oakie?

Edited by DinarDana, 01 July 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[TPSprayduster]

Rights on Word I very much like the points you bring in by the way.

Can you imagine if we didn't have these threads without him? It would be quiet!

I am not responding to that guy, maybe i should put ROW on ignore as well. I have fun with 40oz and he does not take it as personal as the other guy does. As I informed Bumper64 I would leave him alone and I will. The war has stopped and I won't be the one to break the peace that Dinar Dina has made. I swear on the souls of my mutt Albert, taco bell dog, bonkie and my 17 year old cat capy I won't reignite this war of words.

Edited by TPSprayduster, 02 July 2012 - 04:11 AM.

[DinarDana]

I am not responding to that guy, maybe i should put ROW on ignore as well. I have fun with 40oz and he does not take it as personal as the other guy does. As I informed Bumper64 I would leave him alone and I will. The war has stopped and I won't be the one to break the peace that Dinar Dina has made. I swear on the souls of my mutt Albert, taco bell dog, bonkie and my 17 year old cat capy I won't reignite this war of words.

Thank you Albert, taco bell, bonkie and capy!