63 replies to this topic

[caz1104]

From where do you get your sources to back up your statements? And I am asking for sources outside of any dinar forum.

Iraq says they will become a superpower of the ME. They can say all they want. Could happen, though.

The main question is - How many years will it take for Iraq to mature politically and economically in order for a 20% increase in IQD value?

The end of my statement was for "someone to show me." You showed me nothing.

"someone to show me", "You showed me nothing", Since when is up to others to provide you or anyone else proof of there opinions? This is not a joint venture investment where one should care what others think,or the need to hold others hand. This is real life and if you need others to substantiate your lack of commitment in this investment maybe you should sell out and move on to another venture. Your snide remark about others being "simpletons" shows a lack of class and imo " simpleton" mindset. Tho I know you not, even I can speculate on you and your intellgence,is that fair? No. So I will just assume you mis-spoke and wish you the best.

[jackster]

This isn't for you....that's all

So, no sources then?

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On a separate issue:

06/11/2012: "In 4 days they have the UNSC meeting." There was only a report to be presented. No meeting.

Iraq/DFI report due June 15th.

Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
Resolution 1956 (2010) of 15 December 2010
Para. 6: requests the Secretary-General to provide written reports on an ongoing basis to the
council every six months, with the first report due no later than 1 January 2012, about the United
Nations compensation fund, evaluating the continued compliance with the provisions of
paragraph 21 of resolution 1483 (2003).
The report of the Secretary-General is expected to be issued during June 2012

No one has seen this yet?

Edited by jackster, 15 June 2012 - 04:19 PM.

[easyrider]

Amen to that SWFG, this guy argues against EVERYTHING! Can you say DOWNER! I wonder what the heck he is doing here also. He doesn't sound like one of the hopeful Dinar holders. NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE!

absolutely agree with you, frankly it just gets boring. Truth be told you either believe in something or you dont if NOT why waste your time? makes no sense to me what so ever. Kind of like if you believe in jesus christ you read his word and seek him if you dont usually athiests wont bother to pick up a bible, or even look at it or go to church until they start to see the light. Its funny cause this investment all of a sudden has turned people into professional economists that know the ends and outs of what must come about, yet they say we are going off articles and history well let me be the first one to burst their bubble we are entering a WHOLE BRAND NEW banking system and yes what i posted about scooter's smart card thing kinda explains How Iraq will be implementing one of its first kind to ever be seen in history of the world.

Edited by easyrider, 15 June 2012 - 04:29 PM.

[caz1104]

absolutely agree with you, frankly it just gets boring. Truth be told you either believe in something or you dont if NOT why waste your time? makes no sense to me what so ever. Kind of like if you believe in jesus christ you read his word and seek him if you dont usually athiests wont bother to pick up a bible, or even look at it or go to church until they start to see the light. Its funny cause this investment all of a sudden has turned people into professional economists that know the ends and outs of what must come about, yet they say we are going off articles and history well let me be the first one to burst their bubble we are entering a WHOLE BRAND NEW banking system and yes what i posted about scooter's smart card thing kinda explains How Iraq will be implementing one of its first kind to ever be seen in history of the world.

History changes daily for some. If one thinks something can't just because it's never happen before is very shortsided. Sometimes things are not what they appear,you have to be open to the possibilty of change to accept that it just might. Not tryin to belittle anyone just my opinion.

[jackster]

"someone to show me", "You showed me nothing", Since when is up to others to provide you or anyone else proof of there opinions? This is not a joint venture investment where one should care what others think,or the need to hold others hand. This is real life and if you need others to substantiate your lack of commitment in this investment maybe you should sell out and move on to another venture. Your snide remark about others being "simpletons" shows a lack of class and imo " simpleton" mindset. Tho I know you not, even I can speculate on you and your intellgence,is that fair? No. So I will just assume you mis-spoke and wish you the best.

You're taking what I said out of context. This was a conversation I was having with someone else.

Someone stated that the people in here are not simpletons. I wouldn't say that the people that I converse with in here are simpletons. Even the people I disagree with. We all have varying degrees of intelligence. Some may be strong in mathematics. Other in science or the English language. Even business. But, to state that there are no simpletons wouldn't be true. I didn't call any one person a simpleton. But, I think that there are some simpletons in this forum. I don't think any of my conservations have been with them.

Quite a few others speculate on me and my intelligence quite often.

[caz1104]

You're taking what I said out of context. This was a conversation I was having with someone else.

Someone stated that the people in here are not simpletons. I wouldn't say that the people that I converse with in here are simpletons. Even the people I disagree with. We all have varying degrees of intelligence. Some may be strong in mathematics. Other in science or the English language. Even business. But, to state that there are no simpletons wouldn't be true. I didn't call any one person a simpleton. But, I think that there are some simpletons in this forum. I don't think any of my conservations have been with them.

Quite a few others speculate on me and my intelligence quite often.

Point taken and accepted

[JWJW11]

So, no sources then?

######################################

On a separate issue:

06/11/2012: "In 4 days they have the UNSC meeting." There was only a report to be presented. No meeting.

Iraq/DFI report due June 15th.

Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
Resolution 1956 (2010) of 15 December 2010
Para. 6: requests the Secretary-General to provide written reports on an ongoing basis to the
council every six months, with the first report due no later than 1 January 2012, about the United
Nations compensation fund, evaluating the continued compliance with the provisions of
paragraph 21 of resolution 1483 (2003).
The report of the Secretary-General is expected to be issued during June 2012

No one has seen this yet?

I stopped trying to explain this thing to people who don't get it a long time ago my boy......its pretty simple either your in or your out......not interested in proving to you anything....frankly I couldn't care less if you understand it all or not.


Ps everything I stated previously is out there for you to find.....and yes its available outside dinar forums.....

[jackster]

I stopped trying to explain this thing to people who don't get it a long time ago my boy......its pretty simple either your in or your out......not interested in proving to you anything....frankly I couldn't care less if you understand it all or not.


Ps everything I stated previously is out there for you to find.....and yes its available outside dinar forums.....

However, you couldn't stop yourself from trying to explain it to me earlier. "my boy"? Very condenscending. You were interested in proving it to me.

I've looked out there and found plenty that I have presented to this forum that does not support an RV, but rather an RD. It's out there. Go look for it.

I'm off to a winetasting with my wife.

[JWJW11]

However, you couldn't stop yourself from trying to explain it to me earlier. "my boy"? Very condenscending. You were interested in proving it to me.

I've looked out there and found plenty that I have presented to this forum that does not support an RV, but rather an RD. It's out there. Go look for it.

I'm off to a winetasting with my wife.

Sounds fun......enjoy!

[jackster]

6-11-2012 SWFloridaGuy: This month is an important one for Iraq. In 4 days they have the UNSC meeting. Tariffs go into effect at the end of the month and on the 26th and 27th of June is the World Banking and Financial Summit in London. Shabibi of the CBI will be speaking and will examine the changing shape of global banking and finance in the light of the macroeconomic imbalances in the world economy. The World Gold Council, DeLaRue company and major banks from around the world will be in attendance. The agenda will explore the key economic factors that will shape the financial industry’s drive for profits and growth in different countries, and consider the prospects of a possible reserve currency system reflecting the surfacing of important emerging economies and the subsequent shift in economic power. In addition to Dr. Shabibi of the CBI, speakers include international economic decision-makers: economists, academics and other leading monetary figures. I don't expect a RV overnight but I do believe that after the National Meeting, if we see announcements of permanent Ministers, Erbil power sharing and the Strategic Council, the CBI will move ahead with their economic reforms and we could see a higher exchange rate on the IQD. For some time the IMF and World Bank have instructed the CBI on how to correct abuses, implement policies, improve economic efficiency, and enter the next phase of their currency reform project. Although there are still many areas in need of improvement (as we saw listed at last year's World Bank mtg with the IMF), Iraq has come a long way. At this point they may just be waiting for the opportune time and a stable political environment that will ensure the success of the project. Stability and inflation have always been key factors. Look for a date announced for the National Meeting and the outcome of the ones I previously mentioned. I am providing a link for the Conference Overview of the World Bank Financial Summit: http://www.omfif.org...nda 06 June.pdf

SWFloridaGuy, the month of June has come and almost gone.

1. There was no UNSC meeting like you said. There was only a report due. PDF Page 6. Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
2. Did the Tariffs go into effect? They might have, but I didn't feel the earth move.
3. World Banking and Financial Summit in London on June 26th and 27th. Shabibi did not speak. He was not on the speakers list. PDF Look at page six which is the speakers list.

Like I said, it wasn't that big of a meeting. You placed a lot of emphasis on this one. All the forum readers gave you pluses and negged me big time. Sorry people.

So, when is the National Meeting?

[Texas1]

SWFloridaGuy, the month of June has come and almost gone.

1. There was no UNSC meeting like you said. There was only a report due. PDF Page 6. Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
2. Did the Tariffs go into effect? They might have, but I didn't feel the earth move.
3. World Banking and Financial Summit in London on June 26th and 27th. Shabibi did not speak. He was not on the speakers list. PDF Look at page six which is the speakers list.

Like I said, it wasn't that big of a meeting. You placed a lot of emphasis on this one. All the forum readers gave you pluses and negged me big time. Sorry people.

So, when is the National Meeting?

Tune in tomorrow, Same Bat time, same Bat channel

[zul]

SWFloridaGuy, the month of June has come and almost gone.

1. There was no UNSC meeting like you said. There was only a report due. PDF Page 6. Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
2. Did the Tariffs go into effect? They might have, but I didn't feel the earth move.
3. World Banking and Financial Summit in London on June 26th and 27th. Shabibi did not speak. He was not on the speakers list. PDF Look at page six which is the speakers list.

Like I said, it wasn't that big of a meeting. You placed a lot of emphasis on this one. All the forum readers gave you pluses and negged me big time. Sorry people.

So, when is the National Meeting?

1. UNSC meeting was held on the 19th.
2. Tariff ~ July 1st.

[easyrider]

1. UNSC meeting was held on the 19th.
2. Tariff ~ July 1st.

it seems the july 1st tariffs are still on board. Zul, i think he was referring to the national meeting which there is no date when they will have it but i presume it will be "Soon"

[DinarThug]

SWFloridaGuy, the month of June has come and almost gone.

1. There was no UNSC meeting like you said. There was only a report due. PDF Page 6. Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
2. Did the Tariffs go into effect? They might have, but I didn't feel the earth move.
3. World Banking and Financial Summit in London on June 26th and 27th. Shabibi did not speak. He was not on the speakers list. PDF Look at page six which is the speakers list.

Like I said, it wasn't that big of a meeting. You placed a lot of emphasis on this one. All the forum readers gave you pluses and negged me big time. Sorry people.

So, when is the National Meeting?

I Just Ran This Through The CNN Google Translator And All It Said Was - Neener, Neener, Neener .....




Btw Don't Worry About It SWFG !

Some Of Us Are Capable Of Understanding That Things Change In Iraq And Don't Hold U Personally Responsible !

U Just Keep Bringing' It Bro And We'll Be Happy To Keep Giving U Plusses For All Ur Hard Work + Research !

The Rest Of Us Don't Suffer From Plussey Envy !

[SWFloridaGuy]

SWFloridaGuy, the month of June has come and almost gone.

1. There was no UNSC meeting like you said. There was only a report due. PDF Page 6. Iraq - Development Fund for Iraq
2. Did the Tariffs go into effect? They might have, but I didn't feel the earth move.
3. World Banking and Financial Summit in London on June 26th and 27th. Shabibi did not speak. He was not on the speakers list. PDF Look at page six which is the speakers list.

Like I said, it wasn't that big of a meeting. You placed a lot of emphasis on this one. All the forum readers gave you pluses and negged me big time. Sorry people.

So, when is the National Meeting?

Ok my turn:

#1. The link you provided is older than the one I provided almost a month ago.
#2. The official report and transcript has not been released yet. So, you have no idea who spoke and who didn't and neither do I until it is released. "World Banking & Finance Summit 2012 took place in London on 26-27 June. A summary of discussions will be available shortly." http://www.omfif.org..._banking_summit (That is not the full list of speakers, just some confirmed main speakers).
#3. I made it clear time and again it is an important meeting where economic policy for the next 10 years is laid out and that's it. I also admitted I had no clue if the dinar would be discussed or not. How could I? What I said was if Iraq was planning to make any changes anytime in that amount of time they lay out policy for, then it would be a topic of interest.
#4. A day or two before Shabibi was scheduled to be in London he was rumored to be in Switzerland. I am not exactly sure of his travel plans because he must have found my tracking beacon I had stuck to his forehead. You'll have to forgive me, I also am not sure if he had frosted flakes or buttered toast. I slept in that morning.
#4. Do you have any idea what's going on with the tariffs? Does anyone? Why would you expect that I do? We've all known they could be postponed again just like they have many times before. I can only go by what we read in print and like everything else, that is subject to change and out of our control.
#5. They have have been trying to hold a successful National Meeting since January. I said look for a date announced. Did I give a date? I'm still waiting on that myself.
#6. No dates ever seem to pan out but all we have to work with is what's in print. How long have you been in this?
#7. You would be the master of the obvious weren't it for the fact that hindsight is 20/20 with you implying the existence of a rule to which you are the exception
#8. Relax man, we're in this together. I don't pretend to have the answers. I read hundreds of articles a day and do my best to report accurately. What else can I do?

Shabibi at world banking summit Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 am

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THEMES
The conference will be supported by sponsorship, with an audience of 100-150 expected to attend from Europe, Asia, the Americas, Africa and Oceania. Themes to be discussed at this meeting include:
 Growth models for the future – driving balanced economic development
 Macroeconomic policy challenges - status quo and perspectives for the world economy in mid-2012
 Balancing risk and reward in financial services – sustainable pursuit of profit for a responsible industry
 Highlights of banking and finance regulatory changes connected to profitability and structure amid upsurge in capital reserve requirements
 Implications for world banking given the expanding role of central banks – greater government involvement and less reliance on market mechanisms
 The looming internationalisation of the renminbi and changes in the global reserve currency structure
 Leading the way forward - encouraging lending, improving access to capital flows and restoring consumer and investor confidence
 The financial and banking climate according to creditors and debtors – a future decade perspective and potential opportunities and pitfalls

SPEAKERS
Speakers include international economic decision-makers; economists; academics and other leading monetary figures. By combining analysts and policy-makers from the public and private sectors in a thoughtful and illuminating fashion, the conference aims to add an extra dimension to the understanding of the global economic scene. Confirmed speakers for 2012 include:
 H.E. Dr. Sinan Al Shabibi, Governor, Central Bank of Iraq
 Prof. Josef Bonnici, Governor, Central Bank of Malta
 Prof. Lord Desai, Chairman of the Advisory Board, OMFIF
 Antoine Gosset-Grainville, Director-General, Caisse des Depôts
 Gerry Grimstone, Chairman, Standard Life
 Dr. Jeffrey Jaensubhakij, President (Europe), Government of Singapore Investment Corporation
 Lord Lamont, former UK Chancellor of the Exchequer
 Gerard Lyons, Chief Economist, Standard Chartered Bank
 Peter Norman, Minister for Financial Markets, Government of Sweden
 Saker Nusseibeh, Chief Executive Officer, Hermes Fund Managers
 Howard Shore, Founder & Chief Executive Officer, Shore Capital
 Miroslav Singer, Governor, Czech National Bank
 Prof. Niels Thygesen, Emeritus Professor of Economics, University of Copenhagen
 Lord Tugendhat, Select Committee on Economic Affairs, House of Lords, former Vice-President, European Commission

Lets try to be a little more tolerant shall we? "Scan not a friend with a microscopic glass." -- George Harrison. Hope you have a great weekend.

Edited by SWFloridaGuy, 29 June 2012 - 10:34 PM.

[respectron]

What Thug said

[cashman54]

Thanks for all your contributions and analysis SWFLGUY!

[Texas1]

I Just Ran This Through The CNN Google Translator And All It Said Was - Neener, Neener, Neener .....




Btw Don't Worry About It SWFG !

Some Of Us Are Capable Of Understanding That Things Change In Iraq And Don't Hold U Personally Responsible !

U Just Keep Bringing' It Bro And We'll Be Happy To Keep Giving U Plusses For All Ur Hard Work + Research !

The Rest Of Us Don't Suffer From Plussey Envy !

I agree. I appreciate all of the big news and tips that folks like SW Fl guy give.......I really like Bondladys big tips too.

[SWFloridaGuy]

I agree. I appreciate all of the big news and tips that folks like SW Fl guy give.......I really like Bondladys big tips too.

I like Bondlady too and apparently... I really like the #4

[DinarThug]

Ok my turn:

#1. The link you provided is older than the one I provided almost a month ago.
#2. The official report and transcript has not been released yet. So, you have no idea who spoke and who didn't and neither do I until it is released. "World Banking & Finance Summit 2012 took place in London on 26-27 June. A summary of discussions will be available shortly." http://www.omfif.org..._banking_summit (That is not the full list of speakers, just some confirmed main speakers).
#3. I made it clear time and again it is an important meeting where economic policy for the next 10 years is laid out and that's it. I also admitted I had no clue if the dinar would be discussed or not. How could I? What I said was if Iraq was planning to make any changes anytime in that amount of time they lay out policy for, then it would be a topic of interest.
#4. A day or two before Shabibi was scheduled to be in London he was rumored to be in Switzerland. I am not exactly sure of his travel plans because he must have found my tracking beacon I had stuck to his forehead. You'll have to forgive me, I also am not sure if he had frosted flakes or buttered toast. I slept in that morning.
#4. Do you have any idea what's going on with the tariffs? Does anyone? Why would you expect that I do? We've all known they could be postponed again just like they have many times before. I can only go by what we read in print and like everything else, that is subject to change and out of our control.
#5. They have have been trying to hold a successful National Meeting since January. I said look for a date announced. Did I give a date? I'm still waiting on that myself.
#6. No dates ever seem to pan out but all we have to work with is what's in print. How long have you been in this?
#7. You would be the master of the obvious weren't it for the fact that hindsight is 20/20 with you implying the existence of a rule to which you are the exception
#8. Relax man, we're in this together. I don't pretend to have the answers. I read hundreds of articles a day and do my best to report accurately. What else can I do?

Shabibi at world banking summit Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03

I like Bondlady too and apparently... I really like the #4

I Might Be A Little Slow (Major Understatement) But It Took Me A Looooooong Minute To Figure Out That Ur #4 Reference Had To Do With Ur Previous Post + The Accidental Double Numbering Of #4 ! Lol !

Try Not To Let It Ever Happen Again Or A Month Later Some Lopster Will Call U Out On It !