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[Roadrunner]

You know if he had popped a cap on one of them there would have sure been an outrage. The media would have been asking "why would he be out there with a gun if he wasn't looking for trouble". I don't go anywhere without a gun and in his situation, I would have left a few of them laying there and not even bothered calling 911. But then I am the crazy guy that is more interested in self preservation than political correctness.

Roadrunner

[tandy]

lock it TG

[Sawilson]

Is the president supposed to comment on every race related crime because he not white(not black either in my book) but it seems like he should stay away from race related crimes... Is this even national news?

No he's only supposed to comment on any race on black crime like the Trayvon case. It's called equality, look it up. If he's not going to comment on cases like this then he needs to keep his mouth shut on ALL cases.
Where's Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the mobs storming the streets demanding justice? Where's the news running 24/7 on this case? The problem is that this country has gotten to a point that unless it's
white on black crime, it doesn't make press. It's called stirring the pot to get notice. I'm sorry, and I'm not racist in the least, but black on white crime has become non-news worthy. Sad but true...

[grand pubah]

I couldn't agree more... which is why I made my earlier statement which apparently got me negs... I'm sure it's because it sounded like I defended Obama and that's not that case but even still if I WAS defending Obama I'm just giving an opinion and not attacking anyone so it's not fair for people to neg me because of that. ESPECIALLY since people get banned for too many negs and for the RECORD I don't like Obama didn't vote for him and wouldn't and I'm a black guy... but Like BradyBear said we should just stop with all the racial crap because we will always see in color as long as we are trying to point out that someone should be doing something just BECAUSE they are a certain color... I'm probably the anti-thesis of my race or any race for that matter... I'm just being me and I judge people on the way I perceive them to be as a person. I don't even like to take other people's opinions on a person till I have met them and formed my own opinion. Because no matter where you come from in life you will find that EVERYONE has a reason for what they are doing or did (aside from the insane which is a reason in itsself if you think about it) but still even if the president was not black I would hold the same opinion that he should probably stay away from stories about hate crime because then he risks dividing the nation even further if he starts sticking up for one side, so that is why I hate to see Obama pandering to Blacks in this country as if to say (I'm on your side) when really if they didn't make up part of his voters he wouldn't care. In any case it is sad news hearing what happened to that couple and it really pisses me off to see any people acting that way. Especially when it's that many against just a few... I don' t know how they think it makes them feel any better.

Hi nani, thanks for the clarification. +1 from the GP to make up for the negs


Years ago I was assaulted by a large group of black Americans just because I was white and alone. I do not hold this against a whole race of people and am not bitter against blacks for what a group of knuckleheads did years ago. However I do agree with you 100% that race should not be a motivating factor to gain political points. There are some well known names today whose whole career and livelihood is based on furthering the divide between the the races rather than healing them.

GP

[Shinnidan]

"Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident."

if people are taking advantage of this, its pathetically sad. its just goes to show you what we have learned in the past 200 years...absolutely NOTHING!

i believe that Zimmerman was wrong and acted foolishly, regardless of his feeling, use of deadly force was not necessary. regardless of the boys history, at that time no ones life was being threatened, except that boy's. for everyone legally to own or carry a fire arm for defensive use should have know the difference of when and when not to pull the trigger.

for other people using this as an excuse to hurt someone else who had nothing to do with the incident....are simply Fracking IDIOTS!

[sportfisher]

Is this even national news?

is Trayvon????????

NOT!!!

You know if he had popped a cap on one of them there would have sure been an outrage. The media would have been asking "why would he be out there with a gun if he wasn't looking for trouble". I don't go anywhere without a gun and in his situation, I would have left a few of them laying there and not even bothered calling 911. But then I am the crazy guy that is more interested in self preservation than political correctness.

Roadrunner

well said.

[sportfisher]

Hey donkey! When you refer to those people as "blacks" you are not helping anything. They are people who did something horrible who happen to be african american. Your kind of idiotic nonsense with that title is why this country cant get out of its own way when it comes to race relations. Your ignorance makes me vomit.

did you mean honkey??? oh why wouldn't that be a racial slur? If your post is directed at me, I only copied and pasted the title from the story source. Maybe you have a problem with the story?

By the way, when you refer to a black person as an "African American", you are creating division amongst "Americans" and "YOU ARE NOT HELPING ANYTHING". We are all "Americans" period. It is your own ignorance that makes you vomit.

[Heavyduty053]

http://www.wnd.com/2...-buries-attack/

There’s outrage in Norfolk, Va., today after a white couple was attacked by a group of dozens of black teenagers, and the local newspaper did not report on the incident for two weeks, despite the victims being employees of the paper.

Even today, the Virginian-Pilot did not cover the crime as news, but rather as an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Washington.

“Wave after wave of young men surged forward to take turns punching and kicking their victim,” Washington wrote, describing the onslaught that began when Dave Forster and Marjon Rostami stopped at a red light while driving home from a show on a Saturday night. A crowd of at least 100 black young people was on the sidewalk.

“Rostami locked her car door. Someone threw a rock at her window. Forster got out to confront the rock-thrower, and that’s when the beating began. …

“The victim’s friend, a young woman, tried to pull him back into his car. Attackers came after her, pulling her hair, punching her head and causing a bloody scratch to the surface of her eye. She called 911. A recording told her all lines were busy. She called again. Busy. On her third try, she got through and, hysterical, could scream only their location. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. It happened four blocks from where they work, here at the Virginian-Pilot.”

Washington says neither suffered grave injuries, but both were out of work for a week. Forster’s torso ached from blows to his ribs, and he retained a thumb-sized bump on his head. Rostami reportedly fears to be alone in her home., while Forster wishes he’d stayed in the car.

The columnist admits the story has not, until today, appeared in the Virginian-Pilot.

“The responding officer coded the incident as a simple assault, despite their assertions that at least 30 people had participated in the attack,” Washington explains. “A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see ‘simple assault’ and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?”

Washington says the day after the beatings, Forster searched Twitter for mention of the attack, and one post in particular chilled him.

“I feel for the white man who got beat up at the light,” wrote one person.

“I don’t,” wrote another, indicating laughter. “(do it for trayvon martin)”

Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident.

The newspaper is coming under heavy criticism today from residents in the greater Norfolk area, known as Hampton Roads.

“It is unbelievable that the Virginian-Pilot would BURY this story for two weeks for politically correct reasons. That is sad and disgusting,” said David Englert of Norfolk. “Someone should be fired or resign over the decision not to report this attack. It is a sad enough commentary on our society and community to read about how the responding police viewed this crime, but for our only newspaper to decide that they will hide from the truth rather than report the truth is PATHETIC! Any attack by a mob of people on any innocent victim should be put under a bright spotlight for all involved to be judged and exposed as appropriate, and to make sure that the criminal justice system does its job to protect those who obey the law.”

William Tabor of Chesapeake, Va., complained: “Surely the Pilot knew about it. A racially motivated attack is certainly news. Was it not politically correct enough to be reported? Is civilization suspended in Norfolk after dark? If we can’t rely on the police for protection, and our [news] media fails to warn us of such hazards, we can only rely on ourselves.”

Charles Chandler of Norfolk indicated: “I am not sure what I am angrier about. This story, or the crowd of black teens who needlessly and thoughtlessly beat two white victims. Or am I just angry that this still occurs in the year 2012. Nearly fifty years after the marches and the speeches and the declaration of civil liberties for all people. Clearly we are nowhere near the dream Dr. King envisioned. I am angry. I am angry at the calloused cop who stated “this is what they do”. I am angry at the Pilot for hiding it under a bushel.”

And Douglas Gaynor of Virginia Beach brought up the need for self-defense, saying, “If the young lady was armed and trained, she could have whipped out P345 and taken out a few thugs.”

I did not usually side with killing and violence but if this is what black people are going to start doing because of the incident with Trayvon when they were not there and they do not know what actually took place then it is time for the offenders to be put in their places. It is wrong to carry out judgement against an innocent bystanding in their fit of rage backed up by others. These thugs are emboldened by groups together not by their selfs. It is coming to a time when people are gonna have to carry protection and use it. These people who willingly commit these crimes should be dealt with in a manor that is permanent.

[txcountryman]

"Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident."

if people are taking advantage of this, its pathetically sad. its just goes to show you what we have learned in the past 200 years...absolutely NOTHING!

i believe that Zimmerman was wrong and acted foolishly, regardless of his feeling, use of deadly force was not necessary. regardless of the boys history, at that time no ones life was being threatened, except that boy's. for everyone legally to own or carry a fire arm for defensive use should have know the difference of when and when not to pull the trigger.

for other people using this as an excuse to hurt someone else who had nothing to do with the incident....are simply Fracking IDIOTS!

I agree it is sad to take advantage of this case for gains. And yes I agree Zimmerman should not have followed trayvon but IF and I emphasize IF trayvon attacked Zimmerman like he says he did then he was well within his rights to defend himself. Trayvon was almost twice zimmermans size. But I still say Zimmerman should not have followed trayvon

[Shabibilicious]

This is a very interesting article. This is roughly the same area where Allen Iverson (former NBA player) grew up. There were racial tensions in his younger years there. He even went to prison for a spell for a group of black teens beating up some white kids in a bowling alley. I saw this on ESPN a couple months ago. Sounds like this area of the country is steeped in racial tension. I don't have a link for that particular story......it happened sometime around 1993-94.

GO RV, then BV

[pattyangel]

I just hate and I hate using the word "Hate" in knowing that our world is going down the drain at a pace never before witness. This mess has to stop and it has to start somewhere.
Since Obama put his two cents in and stirred this up...and why he would even given such a comment is boggling. He needs to put his mouth of words where it counts and let the people know that we the people of America will not tolerate this in our country.
I know I'm asking for miracles. I know it will never happen... so it began with us, the good people.

As I was driving home from visiting my mother yesterday, I witness two bodies on the ground, of course dead... because of domestic violence, two bodies. It just breaks my heart that the violence is rising more and more each day. Useless violence, unnecessary deaths. This was a young mother who's life was taken from her and now her 2 year old is with out a mother...and father because he took his life also. Sad, sad world we live in.

I my tears roll down not only from this incident, but for our world. It's turning so ugly.

[umbertino]

I will only say that I am sorry for what happened to that couple and I hope the Individuals involved in that absurd and senseless beating all get caught and punished. Nuff said.
I do hate racism coming from anybody towards anybody else.. No exclusions ever.

Edited by umbertino, 02 May 2012 - 07:30 AM.

[Luigi1]

Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson were to speak out of racial violence on the uprise yesterday but both reclined.

[PhillyDinar]

seewhat our lovley government has created. lets us crime as a way to create profits and see if it wont hurt our economy at all.. eh who cares right?!

[bladowzanow]

This is a very interesting article. This is roughly the same area where Allen Iverson (former NBA player) grew up. There were racial tensions in his younger years there. He even went to prison for a spell for a group of black teens beating up some white kids in a bowling alley. I saw this on ESPN a couple months ago. Sounds like this area of the country is steeped in racial tension. I don't have a link for that particular story......it happened sometime around 1993-94.

GO RV, then BV

Hi bud, Norfolk and Hampton (Iverson's hometown) are both in Hampton Roads but they are across the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel from one another. They are close but are two separate areas in Hampton Roads, VA. I know we have crime in the area and I work near a rough area in Hampton but I can tell you "this area of the country" is not "steeped in racial tension". We have crime like most high populated areas but I'd be willing to bet it's not typically racially motivated.

I am very proud of where I was born and raised. It saddens me to think other people across the country think that way about Hampton Roads or Virginia. Hopefully this article and Allen Iverson don't skew your view of Hampton Roads, VA and the people that live here too much.

Take care.

Edited by bladowzanow, 02 May 2012 - 07:59 AM.

[Kaduku]

THIS IS ONE OF MANY OF OBAMA'S PLANS FOR AMERICA...IS THAT WE ARE DIVIDED, BANKRUPT, AND FIGHTING AMONGST EACHOTHER, DESTROYING OURSELVES WITHIN. IT IS THE DECEIT, MANIPULATIONS, SCAMS, CONFUSION ETC... OF OBAMA'S SAUL ALINSKY STYLE GOVERNING!!!!

OBAMA AND ALL HIS CORRUPTED CZARS, BRAINDEAD LIBERALS, AND ZOMBIE DEMONCRATS MUST BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kaduku]

FOX NEWS IS NOT OUT THERE CONFUSING/TWISTING THE NEWS ONTHIS LIKE ALL THEM LIBERAL NEWS MEDIAS WERE DOING ON TREYVON ISSUE. NO KKK ASKING FOR ALL THEM 100 BLACK PEOPLES HEAD...DEAD OR ALIVE, NO REVEREN GRAHAM ON THE MIC ACCUSING THE BLACKS OF RACIST. EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TREYVON MURDER WAS OBAMA'S PLAN TO GAIN CONFIDENCE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT HE IS WITH THEM, NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE GAS PRICES/ECONOMY ETC...

[Shabibilicious]

Hi bud, Norfolk and Hampton (Iverson's hometown) are both in Hampton Roads but they are across the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel from one another. They are close but are two separate areas in Hampton Roads, VA. I know we have crime in the area and I work near a rough area in Hampton but I can tell you "this area of the country" is not "steeped in racial tension". We have crime like most high populated areas but I'd be willing to bet it's not typically racially motivated.

I am very proud of where I was born and raised. It saddens me to think other people across the country think that way about Hampton Roads or Virginia. Hopefully this article and Allen Iverson don't skew your view of Hampton Roads, VA and the people that live here too much.

Take care.

Sorry friend.....never my intention to hurt any feelings. This is perfect example of how the media can skew things. I was simply repeating what I saw. That was an hour long show too....with a story line, editing, interviews....whole shooting match. With what you say, the story was completely one sided. My apologies.

GO RV, then BV

[dinarprospect]

I am sad that this happened . All those involved should be bought to jail; However, I do think that the story is extremely puffed up. Seriously, over a hundred people attacked someone and the victim only have a few bumps and bruises . In most cases when someone is attacked by 2-3 person the injuries are far more severe much less 100+, really.

Edited by dinarprospect, 02 May 2012 - 08:24 AM.

[bladowzanow]

Sorry friend.....never my intention to hurt any feelings. This is perfect example of how the media can skew things. I was simply repeating what I saw. That was an hour long show too....with a story line, editing, interviews....whole shooting match. With what you say, the story was completely one sided. My apologies.

GO RV, then BV

Oh no apology necessary. I had a similar response to the article as well. I forwarded it to my co-workers, friends and family because it's very scary. We have a lot of crime here which is bad enough. I just don't think they are typically racially spurred. I don't know that for a fact but I have to rely on the media to inform us (clearly that's not working well).

I didn't take any offense to your comment. Everybody has their own opinion based off whatever info they know/hear about a person or place.

Take care.