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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:37 PM
Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:42 PM
Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:15 PM
Is the president supposed to comment on every race related crime because he not white(not black either in my book) but it seems like he should stay away from race related crimes... Is this even national news?
By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it.
The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired." - Nikos Kazantzakis
Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:30 PM
I couldn't agree more... which is why I made my earlier statement which apparently got me negs... I'm sure it's because it sounded like I defended Obama and that's not that case but even still if I WAS defending Obama I'm just giving an opinion and not attacking anyone so it's not fair for people to neg me because of that. ESPECIALLY since people get banned for too many negs and for the RECORD I don't like Obama didn't vote for him and wouldn't and I'm a black guy... but Like BradyBear said we should just stop with all the racial crap because we will always see in color as long as we are trying to point out that someone should be doing something just BECAUSE they are a certain color... I'm probably the anti-thesis of my race or any race for that matter... I'm just being me and I judge people on the way I perceive them to be as a person. I don't even like to take other people's opinions on a person till I have met them and formed my own opinion. Because no matter where you come from in life you will find that EVERYONE has a reason for what they are doing or did (aside from the insane which is a reason in itsself if you think about it) but still even if the president was not black I would hold the same opinion that he should probably stay away from stories about hate crime because then he risks dividing the nation even further if he starts sticking up for one side, so that is why I hate to see Obama pandering to Blacks in this country as if to say (I'm on your side) when really if they didn't make up part of his voters he wouldn't care. In any case it is sad news hearing what happened to that couple and it really pisses me off to see any people acting that way. Especially when it's that many against just a few... I don' t know how they think it makes them feel any better.
Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:41 PM
Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:31 PM
Is this even national news?
You know if he had popped a cap on one of them there would have sure been an outrage. The media would have been asking "why would he be out there with a gun if he wasn't looking for trouble". I don't go anywhere without a gun and in his situation, I would have left a few of them laying there and not even bothered calling 911. But then I am the crazy guy that is more interested in self preservation than political correctness.
Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:41 PM
did you mean honkey??? oh why wouldn't that be a racial slur? If your post is directed at me, I only copied and pasted the title from the story source. Maybe you have a problem with the story?
Hey donkey! When you refer to those people as "blacks" you are not helping anything. They are people who did something horrible who happen to be african american. Your kind of idiotic nonsense with that title is why this country cant get out of its own way when it comes to race relations. Your ignorance makes me vomit.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:42 AM
There’s outrage in Norfolk, Va., today after a white couple was attacked by a group of dozens of black teenagers, and the local newspaper did not report on the incident for two weeks, despite the victims being employees of the paper.
Even today, the Virginian-Pilot did not cover the crime as news, but rather as an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Washington.
“Wave after wave of young men surged forward to take turns punching and kicking their victim,” Washington wrote, describing the onslaught that began when Dave Forster and Marjon Rostami stopped at a red light while driving home from a show on a Saturday night. A crowd of at least 100 black young people was on the sidewalk.
“Rostami locked her car door. Someone threw a rock at her window. Forster got out to confront the rock-thrower, and that’s when the beating began. …
“The victim’s friend, a young woman, tried to pull him back into his car. Attackers came after her, pulling her hair, punching her head and causing a bloody scratch to the surface of her eye. She called 911. A recording told her all lines were busy. She called again. Busy. On her third try, she got through and, hysterical, could scream only their location. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. It happened four blocks from where they work, here at the Virginian-Pilot.”
Washington says neither suffered grave injuries, but both were out of work for a week. Forster’s torso ached from blows to his ribs, and he retained a thumb-sized bump on his head. Rostami reportedly fears to be alone in her home., while Forster wishes he’d stayed in the car.
The columnist admits the story has not, until today, appeared in the Virginian-Pilot.
“The responding officer coded the incident as a simple assault, despite their assertions that at least 30 people had participated in the attack,” Washington explains. “A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see ‘simple assault’ and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?”
Washington says the day after the beatings, Forster searched Twitter for mention of the attack, and one post in particular chilled him.
“I feel for the white man who got beat up at the light,” wrote one person.
“I don’t,” wrote another, indicating laughter. “(do it for trayvon martin)”
Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident.
The newspaper is coming under heavy criticism today from residents in the greater Norfolk area, known as Hampton Roads.
“It is unbelievable that the Virginian-Pilot would BURY this story for two weeks for politically correct reasons. That is sad and disgusting,” said David Englert of Norfolk. “Someone should be fired or resign over the decision not to report this attack. It is a sad enough commentary on our society and community to read about how the responding police viewed this crime, but for our only newspaper to decide that they will hide from the truth rather than report the truth is PATHETIC! Any attack by a mob of people on any innocent victim should be put under a bright spotlight for all involved to be judged and exposed as appropriate, and to make sure that the criminal justice system does its job to protect those who obey the law.”
William Tabor of Chesapeake, Va., complained: “Surely the Pilot knew about it. A racially motivated attack is certainly news. Was it not politically correct enough to be reported? Is civilization suspended in Norfolk after dark? If we can’t rely on the police for protection, and our [news] media fails to warn us of such hazards, we can only rely on ourselves.”
Charles Chandler of Norfolk indicated: “I am not sure what I am angrier about. This story, or the crowd of black teens who needlessly and thoughtlessly beat two white victims. Or am I just angry that this still occurs in the year 2012. Nearly fifty years after the marches and the speeches and the declaration of civil liberties for all people. Clearly we are nowhere near the dream Dr. King envisioned. I am angry. I am angry at the calloused cop who stated “this is what they do”. I am angry at the Pilot for hiding it under a bushel.”
And Douglas Gaynor of Virginia Beach brought up the need for self-defense, saying, “If the young lady was armed and trained, she could have whipped out P345 and taken out a few thugs.”
Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:50 AM
"Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident."
if people are taking advantage of this, its pathetically sad. its just goes to show you what we have learned in the past 200 years...absolutely NOTHING!
i believe that Zimmerman was wrong and acted foolishly, regardless of his feeling, use of deadly force was not necessary. regardless of the boys history, at that time no ones life was being threatened, except that boy's. for everyone legally to own or carry a fire arm for defensive use should have know the difference of when and when not to pull the trigger.
for other people using this as an excuse to hurt someone else who had nothing to do with the incident....are simply Fracking IDIOTS!
Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:56 AM
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:58 AM
This is a very interesting article. This is roughly the same area where Allen Iverson (former NBA player) grew up. There were racial tensions in his younger years there. He even went to prison for a spell for a group of black teens beating up some white kids in a bowling alley. I saw this on ESPN a couple months ago. Sounds like this area of the country is steeped in racial tension. I don't have a link for that particular story......it happened sometime around 1993-94.
GO RV, then BV
Edited by bladowzanow, 02 May 2012 - 07:59 AM.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:59 AM
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:06 AM
Hi bud, Norfolk and Hampton (Iverson's hometown) are both in Hampton Roads but they are across the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel from one another. They are close but are two separate areas in Hampton Roads, VA. I know we have crime in the area and I work near a rough area in Hampton but I can tell you "this area of the country" is not "steeped in racial tension". We have crime like most high populated areas but I'd be willing to bet it's not typically racially motivated.
I am very proud of where I was born and raised. It saddens me to think other people across the country think that way about Hampton Roads or Virginia. Hopefully this article and Allen Iverson don't skew your view of Hampton Roads, VA and the people that live here too much.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:19 AM
Edited by dinarprospect, 02 May 2012 - 08:24 AM.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:28 AM
Sorry friend.....never my intention to hurt any feelings. This is perfect example of how the media can skew things. I was simply repeating what I saw. That was an hour long show too....with a story line, editing, interviews....whole shooting match. With what you say, the story was completely one sided. My apologies.
GO RV, then BV
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