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[umbertino]

I will accept one small bad investment IF - You (umbertino) continue to post in all of SPOTLIGHT threads....... Sorry, but your post in that one thread still crack me up...... Quote - Taken into account. You do sound very confident I concur. It's called Netiquette I see.... Meaning?

Best comments in a thread poster for May --- Umbertino

You have 10,000 post for a reason....... Thanks

Thanks for the kind words, my Friend... They are appreciated.

ZeekRewards is one of the best opps I've come across... I love it because everybody is a prospect... most people are lazy and don't want to work and although you don't have to recruit a single soul to make any money,... once you see how easy it is... and how you can completely automate it, you'll start sharing your experience with others and your business will grow faster. However, Zeek is not an HYIP... the company is sharing in real revenues from its penny auctions and from a few other sources. With 2 of the top compliant attorneys in the country, debt free, part of a 15 year parent company, the largest ratio of customers to affiliates... and the fact that Zeek just made the front cover of the network marketing business journal as the company leading the industry in compliance... I believe Zeek is here to stay! just my two cents...

and btw, the money's not so bad either... There is this guy I know called Mahi Mahi making over 4k per day. It's the real deal folks!

Interesting... Thanks for sharing all that info.

I think I overlooked your last statement... $4k per day???????? Did I get that right? You need no RV then...Smile.. What's your strategy ( I know you can't reveal it right here...)?
Congrats.

Edited by umbertino, 25 May 2012 - 07:26 AM.

[umbertino]

Would somebody please tell me what an HYIPS is? Sorry to show my ignorance but your topic interests me. Thanks, Gary2

High Yield Investment Programs.. They want to pretend they're real investments when in actuality they're all scams all ending up inevitably with the "managers" running away and leaving Investors dry-mouthed.

Some are complex enough apparently well- studied frauds ( fancy sites, more or less articulate investing structures / strategies ) ... Others are obvious easily spottable scams ( promising you 10% or more per day and such) ..Still some folks fall for them... ( I did in the beginning)

Most of them function like Ponzi schemes... No real money is invested in anything and they just use new members money to pay old members until it's not doable anymore and they run.

Edited by umbertino, 25 May 2012 - 07:37 AM.

[DinarDiva007]

I love to hear that there are some REAL programs out there. How long have you guys been in Zeek?

[easyrider]

High Yield Investment Programs.. They want to pretend they're real investments when in actuality they're all scams all ending up inevitably with the "managers" running away and leaving Investors dry-mouthed.

Some are complex enough apparently well- studied frauds ( fancy sites, more or less articulate investing structures / strategies ) ... Others are obvious easily spottable scams ( promising you 10% or more per day and such) ..Still some folks fall for them... ( I did in the beginning)

Most of them function like Ponzi schemes... No real money is invested in anything and they just use new members money to pay old members until it's not doable anymore and they run.

actually yes u can make a lot of money with HYIPS but it does require to have a lot of money prior because yes MOST are short lived and you have to get in and get out its very quick money. I'd stay away from the ones that offer extemely high %'s and its always a MUST to check the HYIP ranking boards to see which ones are paying out and sticking around or been around for a while, but i have been in some and still currently doing some as well and they are making me a good ROI but very short lived key is to play with their money and to take out your initial investment. It takes money to make money and if u dont have it i would not suggest getting involved with HYIP's at all. Now zeek rewards and jss tripler to name a few are a good way to build a business also to create wealth but its compounding and take patience.

KEY point: Diversify but dont spread yourself to thin.

Edited by easyrider, 25 May 2012 - 09:36 AM.

[umbertino]

actually yes u can make a lot of money with HYIPS but it does require to have a lot of money prior because yes MOST are short lived and you have to get in and get out its very quick money. I'd stay away from the ones that offer extemely high %'s and its always a MUST to check the HYIP ranking boards to see which ones are paying out and sticking around or been around for a while, but i have been in some and still currently doing some as well and they are making me a good ROI but very short lived key is to play with their money and to take out your initial investment. It takes money to make money and if u dont have it i would not suggest getting involved with HYIP's at all. Now zeek rewards and jss tripler to name a few are a good way to build a business also to create wealth but its compounding and take patience.

KEY point: Diversify but dont spread yourself to thin.

Agreed.... Point is they all run in the end... True that in the beginning they'll pay you for awhile just to entice you and convince you to put more money into it ....but they'll xxxx you real good in the end....Like the Casino shows... The House cannnot lose...Surely they have to give the token just once in awhile for impressing folks...

But....Casinos are usually real and lcensed while most of those HYIP's are not.... Not saying that maybe in the Future there won't be authentic HYIP's .. Imo It will only happen if the sector gets regulated and rules enforced somehow...
I realize it's very difficult ( various jurisdictions, etc.) if not impossible to do so.

Also there's the justified suspicion that some among the biggest HYIP's may be one of the various systems Organized Crime uses to launder money....Many of those HYIP's originate in ex Soviet Union Countries and also Central / South America ( Panama etc.)

Edited by umbertino, 25 May 2012 - 09:55 AM.

[DinarDiva007]

The bottom line with MOST if not ALL of them is your profit is someone eles loss... Once I got that I could not endorse them anymore. I want to only be involved in things that everyone wins or has an opportunity to win. It just left me with a big ole ICK factor.

[umbertino]

The bottom line with MOST if not ALL of them is your profit is someone eles loss... Once I got that I could not endorse them anymore. I want to only be involved in things that everyone wins or has an opportunity to win. It just left me with a big ole ICK factor.

True........Infact whenever I was lucky enough ( few times) to succeed with those I would wonder about this you just mentioned....

Of course there are many online opps to pick from besides HYIP's......

Also I can't totally exclude that there are at least some HYIP's which happen for once to be the real deal and really do what they state they do...

[easyrider]

True........Infact whenever I was lucky enough ( few times) to succeed with those I would wonder about this you just mentioned....

Of course there are many online opps to pick from besides HYIP's......

Also I can't totally exclude that there are at least some HYIP's which happen for once to be the real deal and really do what they state they do...

Yep itss all a gamble anyhow... thats why i said diversify and do your research i actually have had a buddy of mine do about 5-6 different HYIPS and was making about 20k-25k a month by just doing them alone not counting his other things but he said u must diversify in them because if one goes down you have others and thats what he lived off of for years while attending law school. So yes it works some are legit just gotta find the ones and thats the hard part but yes HYIPS arent for the faint of heart and are very very risky.

[umbertino]

Yep itss all a gamble anyhow... thats why i said diversify and do your research i actually have had a buddy of mine do about 5-6 different HYIPS and was making about 20k-25k a month by just doing them alone not counting his other things but he said u must diversify in them because if one goes down you have others and thats what he lived off of for years while attending law school. So yes it works some are legit just gotta find the ones and thats the hard part but yes HYIPS arent for the faint of heart and are very very risky.

Ok, let me tell you my best ( luckiest actually) HYIP encounter

.. I was totally unaware (had begun doing HYIP's only for a few months) of the problems frauds, ponzi schemes, etc and I was younger than I am now and was ready to risk very much without thinking twice about it... Yep.. I was greedy.

So... Once I saw this very crappy ad- page where Mr. Nobody was offering to double one's spend in a 5 days time...Wow.....Thought about for, maybe 10 minutes.....and decided to go for it... Began with a 250 dollars spend.....At that time I used to have many e-gold accounts ( some of you remember e-gold?) as they were free anyway and at the time every HYIP' was taking mainly e-gold.

Okay.. After 4 or 5 days I went check in my e-gold acct. and there they were .. 500 bucks... after 2 mins I made my new spend to mr.nobody.....500 dollars....

After 4-5 days I got back 1,000 bucks....


And on and on.......Let's cut it short... I finally got back from Mr. Nobody 25,000 ( twentyfive thousand) bucks... I wanted to send them back for doubling once again when my wife of that time told me " don't do that thing" ( she used a more icolorful expression....).. I insisted and wanted to do it anyway hiding it from her....

In the end I didn't....And I felt real bad for a few days cos I thought I had lost my 50,000 bucks deal....

Anyway... Maybe a week later I checked that site again... And you guessed it.. ...POOF......It was gone.....Later I read on a Forum that some folks ( maybe pooling) had sent 100k and lost them all......

[easyrider]

Ok, let me tell you my best ( luckiest actually) HYIP encounter

.. I was totally unaware (had begun doing HYIP's only for a few months) of the problems frauds, ponzi schemes, etc and I was younger than I am now and was ready to risk very much without thinking twice about it... Yep.. I was greedy.

So... Once I saw this very crappy ad- page where Mr. Nobody was offering to double one's spend in a 5 days time...Wow.....Thought about for, maybe 10 minutes.....and decided to go for it... Began with a 250 dollars spend.....At that time I used to have many e-gold accounts ( some of you remember e-gold?) as they were free anyway and at the time every HYIP' was taking mainly e-gold.

Okay.. After 4 or 5 days I went check in my e-gold acct. and there they were .. 500 bucks... after 2 mins I made my new spend to mr.nobody.....500 dollars....

After 4-5 days I got back 1,000 bucks....


And on and on.......Let's cut it short... I finally got back from Mr. Nobody 25,000 ( twentyfive thousand) bucks... I wanted to send them back for doubling once again when my wife of that time told me " don't do that thing" ( she used a more icolorful expression....).. I insisted and wanted to do it anyway hiding it from her....

In the end I didn't....And I felt real bad for a few days cos I thought I had lost my 50,000 bucks deal....

Anyway... Maybe a week later I checked that site again... And you guessed it.. ...POOF......It was gone.....Later I read on a Forum that some folks ( maybe pooling) had sent 100k and lost them all......

Wow, yea its totally different now but still risky and that does suck.

[umbertino]

Wow, yea its totally different now but still risky and that does suck.

Yes.. I did realize later anyway thay I had stupidly risked a lot... I had been lucky in that case... Bu in normal investments one shouldn't rely on luck ( maybe for a minimal percentage only)

[genx4me]

Ok, let me tell you my best ( luckiest actually) HYIP encounter

.. I was totally unaware (had begun doing HYIP's only for a few months) of the problems frauds, ponzi schemes, etc and I was younger than I am now and was ready to risk very much without thinking twice about it... Yep.. I was greedy.

So... Once I saw this very crappy ad- page where Mr. Nobody was offering to double one's spend in a 5 days time...Wow.....Thought about for, maybe 10 minutes.....and decided to go for it... Began with a 250 dollars spend.....At that time I used to have many e-gold accounts ( some of you remember e-gold?) as they were free anyway and at the time every HYIP' was taking mainly e-gold.

Okay.. After 4 or 5 days I went check in my e-gold acct. and there they were .. 500 bucks... after 2 mins I made my new spend to mr.nobody.....500 dollars....

After 4-5 days I got back 1,000 bucks....


And on and on.......Let's cut it short... I finally got back from Mr. Nobody 25,000 ( twentyfive thousand) bucks... I wanted to send them back for doubling once again when my wife of that time told me " don't do that thing" ( she used a more icolorful expression....).. I insisted and wanted to do it anyway hiding it from her....

In the end I didn't....And I felt real bad for a few days cos I thought I had lost my 50,000 bucks deal....

Anyway... Maybe a week later I checked that site again... And you guessed it.. ...POOF......It was gone.....Later I read on a Forum that some folks ( maybe pooling) had sent 100k and lost them all......

Sounds a lot like my story! Very similar.

[GARY2]

Okay, thanks MD! These sound pretty good until you remember the laws of Karma. Gary2

[cyklerider]

Hoping for good Karma on this one.....Here is my two cents about Zeek Rewards.....I have been in Zeek since Nov. I also believe that it is here to stay. It working very well for my family. I am not some kind of salesmen, I'm just an average guy(construction worker) who has been working the opportunity faithfully, every day, 3 to 5 minutes a day, for six months. I believe that it is the one opportunity that EVERYONE can earn money in, IF they are willing to spend a few minutes a day....MahiMahi is right....the money isn't bad at all....at least it will have to do until the RV!!!!!

[DinarDiva007]

The bottom line with MOST if not ALL of them is your profit is someone eles loss... Once I got that I could not endorse them anymore. I want to only be involved in things that everyone wins or has an opportunity to win. It just left me with a big ole ICK factor.

Ok... after this thread and actually someone I knew pretty well called me the same day about Zeek. I decided to give it a go. All the ponzies left a really bad taste in my mouth but this does seem like the real deal. Real Company ,Real Opportunity Fingers Crossed I was in network marketing for many years and was successful and this is something I can help anyone make money at too.

[LA2009]

Good Morning fellow DV's

This network marketing biz has kept me alive for awhile now, everything from HYIPs to stocks to currencies..... you name it, I have been doing it
over 15 years. My background is accounting, I love how everything has to balance:-)

anyway, HYIPs are amazing and really are the same thing that all the big boyz are doing/
the good ones are the smart boyz who hated what they learned the hard way from the greedy
"legitimate" traders in the big corps/banks ....so they put together a better system that can pay longer than the
big ones....risky? yes, and please educate yourself == I like to read up on the latest on what
is happening with the never ending cycle of names of the HYIP list: www.goldpoll.com is a good one,
but please read up and as far as payment processors, you have them -- so learn about them before
you do anything. I don't really invest in HYIPs much anymore although I do have a little interest in the oldest ones at the top of the page
on the link.



I learned the hard way on these, but if these programs are run correctly - they work. As far as legitimate, I assure you this
'plan' of borrowing and paying back is what keeps this good ol' USA going.

The JSStripler caught me by surprise and has been unbelievable. I am in zeek, but I really don't pay as much attention to it anymore and that is because the JSStripler
started taking off and I was like: holy cow! not to mention the story behind it. I assure you -- most of the people I have gotten to know over the years here at DV
would at least want to hear about it. I ran from it for 6 months until my longtime friend begged me to at least look at it (he sent me info in August and it was
December and I still hadn't paid any attention to it!) well, it was my mistake! I am getting paid every single day and the friend....well he is making at least $500
per day....he made $1100 this week one day! I have proof!

I don't think I can post a link here so I won't break the rules, but you can pm me and I will send you the facts with guidance......
it doesn't require any money to start NOR does it require a SS.

All the best,

L

[DinarDiva007]

HYIP's are still ponzi schemes IMO but Zeek is a real business with a real product. I will not do another HYIP

[iinvest2]

If anyone wants to know about the zeek rewards program I can tell you a little about it, a real close friend of mine got in it about 5-6 months ago to see how good it was and told me about it about 2 months ago it took me about 1 month to do my checking out of the program now that I see what my friend is making a week...Not a month but a week I joined right away and now I have my account set up and making 1.6 % a day compounded daily... Yes you heard me right per day average per week...since his joining approximately 5-6 months ago and starting his account with 10k which is the most you can come in with, he has already pulled out over 40k...4 times what he invested only 5-6 months ago and his account that pays the 1.6% a day is at over 100k...these kind of numbers are why I got into this program right a way I also came in at the 10k level and now have my account set up and am making the 1.6% avg. Per day as well with very little to do ec. Day only about 5-10 min. A day...that's what makes this program so good and why I would recommend it for anyone who wants to make fantastic returns with very little work...now if you want to sell you can make even more by signing people up... But I'm telling you now this program sells it self once you tell someone about this program there hooked just like I was it's a no brainier.
I would be more than happy to explain any part of the program to anyone who is interested... Or even get you on board if you think this would be for you... What a way to wait for the RV

Thanks Best Regards
Iinvest2

[Jmasters]

Would somebody please tell me what an HYIPS is? Sorry to show my ignorance but your topic interests me. Thanks, Gary2

High Yield Investment Program.Run from them like the plague..If you want something solid get into Zeek Rewards.

[Jmasters]

Ok... after this thread and actually someone I knew pretty well called me the same day about Zeek. I decided to give it a go. All the ponzies left a really bad taste in my mouth but this does seem like the real deal. Real Company ,Real Opportunity Fingers Crossed I was in network marketing for many years and was successful and this is something I can help anyone make money at too.

Ponzies utilize incoming funds alone to operate and eventually fail when it becomes unsustainable.Zeek having the auction to generate additional revenue is the key to their success.I know many who are following the 80/20 rule and cashing out 4k a month and have been for a while now.My brother started off low with like 130 in april and is now over 400 bringing in about 8 or 9 bucks a day.It wont take him or myself long to up the ante once we get past the jitters of old.One other thing I like is they do have a cap at ten grand,others that allow higher amounts are the ones that fail,but I really can't see any flaws with this.If you ever hear of a guy called Troy Dooley (sp) he's usually tearing these programs apart for their flaws,the more he looks at zeek the more hes really pleased.Not to mention their Alexa rating is rather nice as well .Good program to do while waiting on the RV in my book.