Loosing Faith in "modern medicine"

divemaster5734 · April 10, 2012

There have recently been "revelations" concerning the profits driven pharmaceutical industry.

From the fake swine flu epidemic to the leaked medical findings that many vaccines can have "side effects" that include incurable diseases,( ie polio vaccine can cause autism and has in millions of children)

There are new laws about to go into effect that will dramatically reduce the amount of natural remedies, herbs, and vitamins you will be "allowed" to purchase.

The FDC is only the muscle for the big corporations and globalists that are intent on forcing you to buy only their products.

A lot of you guys already know some "home remedies" that work better than anything you need a prescription for.

That's what this thread is about.

Please feel free to share your own remedies and links to quality information.

I am going to start it out with a link to CureZone.com

This site has been around for a few years, and has been very useful to a lot of people.

There is a search feature to help you sort out the thousands of posts by regular people that post their experiences, remedies, and rate the listed treatments.

It is a community driven site, by the people for the people.

NEODinar · April 10, 2012

Legalize it!!!!!!!!

bamagirl · April 10, 2012

Legalize it!!!!!!!!

Wonders!! We finally agree on something, lol....

Danan · April 10, 2012

I have believed for years that the doctors have prostitued themselves to the pharm companies. I was on Lipitor for a couple of years. Had never had high cholesterol until my primary doc retired. In came a new doctor and lo and behold my cholesterol was off the charts. I took the med then had to have blood tests every 6 weeks to make sure it wasn't killing my liver. I said enough. Started taking niacin and a glass of wine every night ""I am not taking that **** anymore."

He stuttered and stammered and finally tried to convince me he didn't accept any of that stuff. I looked at him and said, "So the rep I just saw come in with all the bags of food from Chili's didn't bring you guys lunch?" He just said, "I will see you next time."

I have since quit taking Plavix, and take an aspirin, Hormone therapy Hey we all get old, and an antidepressant. I am normally and naturally a Bi$$ch. Why cover it up?

So, yes, everyone of us need to look at what they have prescribed and get back to the more natural remedies.

tadams · April 10, 2012

I grew up around the medical field and have also lost all confidence in the dr.s now.I have heard and seen many healthy people become sick and die going to the dr. And in the hospitals.why are we trusting these people to practice medicine on us?

fox · April 10, 2012

We need to be able to keep our freedom to use supplements! I found a great supplement that has tons of vitamins, essential minerals, mangosteen, aloe vera and green tea. It is the most powerful liquid antioxidant available. It helps with inflammation and improves your immune system. Personally, I was aching and stiff in the mornings when I woke up, and this product has helped me feel so much better! I am not in so much pain, and the stiffness is so much better. You can find it at www.vemmaproducts.net. The main product averages out to about 2 dollars a day, and it is so worth it to have energy and feel great! They also have weight management products that are good.

I hate that the government wants to limit my freedom by saying what I can buy, eat, or drink, etc. The pharmaceutical companies don't want people to know about things like Vemma that help people stay healthy. They know it will cut into their profits!

BrokeNoMore · April 10, 2012

There are books out there that teach about healing yourself with nutrition.

Try to eat organic all the time. The problem with non organic isn't just decreased nutrition. It's what the pesticides do to the natural flora of the gut. It's a recipe for DISASTER. Don't ever take an antibiotic unless your life depends on it. If possible, get it IV. Never oral.

Learn about naturally fermented foods. They're a powerhouse of exponentially increased nutrition, as well as the probiotic factor. Buy jars for fermenting safely at www.pickl-it.com

Learn about healthy whole grains. "Healthy Traditions" talks about the nutrition of soaking and sprouting grains, legumes, and nuts. How to get rid of the anti-nutrients in whole grains and why it's important to process your grains at home and not buy "whole grain" packaged products.

Learn about organic juicing. LeQuip is coming out with an affordable (less than $200) press juicer this summer, that is the BEST way to nutritionally capture the concentrated enzymes and phyto-nutrients in organic vegetables, especially when you're sick with chronic immune disorders.

Man I learned a lot since I got sick. Small changes. All of this is overwhelming to even think about all at once. Move away from packaged foods.

Clean up your environment. Reduce the toxic load on your body. Nikken.com makes an exceptional, best on the market at any price home air purifier that can't be beat. Don't underestimate the health cost of breathing contaminated indoor air.

My favorite antibiotic recipe:

Get your hands on an organic goldenseal root. Available on the web, or from Hardings Ginseng Farm, google it. You want enough to loosely fill a quart jar.

Rinse debris off of it, it will probably come with the soil still on it, as washing it and then shipping will promote mold. Put in a clean quart jar.

Purchase 100 proof vodka, and pour in the jar, completely submerging the root.

Place in refrigerator for a few months, may begin using off the top after 2 months or so.

After 6 months or so, pour off the liquid, and bottle. Allow to settle (you won't be able to rinse off all the dirt), using off the top.

This is much more concentrated stuff than the health food store version, and much cheaper.

Start with 1-2 drops total per day, increasing to 3 drops, 3x per day, for a maximum dosage of 9 drops per day. Super detoxifying stuff, don't abuse it.

Use for up to three weeks, then take a 1 week break, even if still sick (which almost never happens to anybody). Use dropper and place directly on the tongue. Rinse down with juice or whatever, the taste might be a little hard on you at first.

Can be used topically for wound disinfection.

Shelf life: forever, store in a cool dark place, preferably in a dark bottle, out of the sunshine or heat.

Nadita · April 10, 2012

Wonders!! We finally agree on something, lol....

LOL LOL LOL

Finally

DinarMillionaire · April 10, 2012

One of the greatest non-pharma's I've heard of is 'Colloidal Silver' check into it.

Edited April 10, 2012 by DinarMillionaire

Snotrocket · April 10, 2012

One of the greatest non-pharma's I've heard of is 'Colloidal Silver' check into it.

I have a generator and make my own colloidal silver. It cured my aunt of a nasty case of shingles last month - sprayed it on and within minuted the itching and burning STOPPED. Healed within a week (usually lasts 6 weeks). Kids use it for acne, we use it on bandages instead of neosporin, knocks out sinus infection....I could go on and on. The basic idea is that no bacteria, virus or fungus can live in the presence of silver. This is the unit I have but there are less expensive ones and there are instructions on web and you tube on how to make a crude, emergency batch with a 9 volt battery, distilled water and some pure silver wire.

http://www.silverlungs.com/

General information http://www.healthrecoverysystems.co.nz/content/Colloidal-Silver/Colloidal-silver.php

Here's what some experts have to say http://www.thesilveredge.com/experts.shtml

Some success stories and testimonials http://www.thesilveredge.com/mpgtest.shtml

(if half of these are true it's miraculous stuff!)

Big Pharma hates colloidal silver because it works, it's safe and they can't charge you for it!

RodandStaff · April 10, 2012

Divemaster... and anyone reading this... one question, and one only.... if a doctor's average life span is 58 years.. that's right... "58"... why in the world would we even be listening to them for "health advice" when they die so young???

Don't get me wrong... if I break a bone, no problem, I'll see a doctor. If I need some form of life saving surgery... maybe??? ...that depends what it is, and are their alternatives. But they are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies.. and so why would I listen to someone of a profession that hasn't learned to live past 60???... unless I don't want to live long enough to see my future grandchildren grow up.

Started taking niacin and a glass of wine every night ""I am not taking that **** anymore."

A glass of wine every night... ... I like your perscription Dr. Danan ... should that be a name brand wine or can I go with a generic?

pattyangel · April 10, 2012

Great thread. I myself have looked into other source of healing. Dogmatic at one time mentioned about our pH balance and to keep it high, when your pH is high your body is carrying healthy cells and as for a cancer patient going on 4 yrs as a survivor, we need healthy cells, still researching it but do find it very interesting.

It boils down to our diet and how much of it, is doing good for the body. We have to be aware of what we are consuming. I also juice a lot of organic vegetables. I have seen an increase in my endurance, my mentality and physical well being. Every time I go to my oncologist, reports have been positive and truly feel its because I've changed my lifestyle of what I'm consuming.

http://www.relfe.com/health_natural/pH_human_body_balance_health_level_1.html

http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/Killing_Cancer_Cells_with_High_pH_Therapy.html

bbbeauti · April 10, 2012

If you are looking for natural therapies....

find a good theraputical massage therapist, espically if you have pain, loss of range of motion, or just cant move very well. and I mean one that understands how to do trigger point therapy, not one that just does sweedish to get your dollar. Massage can help Migranes, corpal tunnel, numbness, tighten skin, tone and awaken...it brings blood flow to places most of us have not used in years!

Second look into Theraputic grade essential oils, it truly is amazing how much they help! I have a web site but I wont post it here just email me and I can give that to you.

third, make sure if you are not eating right (healthy and organic) that you are getting suppliments of quality and taking them, but dont over do them! But a good multi vitamin, and an Antioxidants to help stop free radical damage will do wonders.

and finaly get up and move! Most of our modern issues are from not moving, get up and move!

precious1 · April 10, 2012

Faith. Not faith in man but faith in God and His word. He told us to heal one another. He also had said Life and Death are in our words. I will go to God. By -His stripes I am healed. He wants that we should have life and have it more abundantly. Thank you Father!

carlos in san diego · April 10, 2012

I have been going to the doctors in Tijuana Mexico for decades now. I don't want American health insurance. It's overpriced and they set up too many conditions, exclutions etc. I just went to a urologist for an exam on last saturday. I walked right in with no appointment and saw a specialist. I never fill out any forms. The doctor examined me and wrote a statement of my condition for the doctor on the San Diego side of the border who is taking care of the medical exam for my commercial driver's license, It requires a physical every two years.

Anyway, the Urologist charged me $50.00 and I got some renal ultrasounds for $120.00 for a set of 4. I was back home by 3:00 PM the same day. I have long ago given up on the American Medical system. Since then I have found out that the Health Care Industry, the food industry, and insurance companies are mostly owned by the Elite.

Here it takes a month or two to get an appointment, Then spend another hour or two filing out forms and waiting for the doctor to see you, then they fill you full of pills that leave you nausious, to make matters worse, if the treatment does'nt kill you, the bills will.

Carlos

divemaster5734 · April 11, 2012

I have a generator and make my own colloidal silver.

http://www.silverlungs.com/

I have been procrastinating getting some.

I have heard about that stuff for years.

After your testimonial I'm just going to jump right in and pick out a generator.

Thank you.

DinarMillionaire · April 11, 2012

I have been procrastinating getting some.

I have heard about that stuff for years.

After your testimonial I'm just going to jump right in and pick out a generator.

Thank you.

I bought some from GNC, $27.95, found out I can buy online for $14.95, 30 ppm. Not a bad idea to have a way to make your own. I learned of coloidal silver from a thread here on DV, read a lot about it and believe in it, just don't over do it. I believe it can make a positive difference in our lives.

Usaok · April 11, 2012

Great thread. Thank you . Keep the info comming please .

divemaster5734 · April 11, 2012

Divemaster... and anyone reading this... one question, and one only.... if a doctor's average life span is 58 years.. that's right... "58"... why in the world would we even be listening to them for "health advice" when they die so young???

Don't get me wrong... if I break a bone, no problem, I'll see a doctor. If I need some form of life saving surgery... maybe??? ...that depends what it is, and are their alternatives. But they are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies.. and so why would I listen to someone of a profession that hasn't learned to live past 60???... unless I don't want to live long enough to see my future grandchildren grow up.

A glass of wine every night... ... I like your perscription Dr. Danan ... should that be a name brand wine or can I go with a generic?

When you start to check it out, you will see the biggest single contributor to medical degree scholarships and medical schools are the big pharmaceutical corps.

Doctors are taught to medicate from the beginning, and most are completely brainwashed by the time they finish the PH.d 6 to 10 years later.

Then when you start finding out about the monopolies they have over America, and the fact we Americans pay up to as much as 10 times the cost for the exact same drugs in Canada, so congress did the big corps a favor and made bringing them across the border illegal.

The excuse is that if Americans don't pay much higher drug costs then they will have to stop doing research on new drugs.

HUH?

The statement " The higher prices of American drugs are what support our research and development" was made during testimony to a congressional hearing, and the freaking patsy politicians, from "both" sides agreed with the twisted reasoning.

Wow, open contempt and corruption from politicians.. who would have figured...

40oz · April 11, 2012

I gave this topic 5 stars and used up all of my + rep. Nice job everyone! Keep 'em comin'.

Snotrocket · April 11, 2012

I have been procrastinating getting some.

I have heard about that stuff for years.

After your testimonial I'm just going to jump right in and pick out a generator.

Thank you.

You are welcome, Divemaster - happy to be your "nudge"! I'm very concerned about antibiotic-resistant superbugs. Some friends of ours lost their 11 year old son to a resistant strain of strep a few months ago - that was my nudge. I did a lot of research and looked at many, many generators. Most are probably fine but I decided to go kinda top-of-the-line because I knew I would be sharing it with friends and famiy and I want to be sure I'm producing a consistent, quality silver.

Here's the skinny...all generators make IONIC silver which is used topically and in the ears, eyes and lungs (with a nebulizer). True colloidal silver is ionic silver with a couple more steps - adding a reducing agent and heat to break it up into "nano particles" used for oral ingestion and sinuses. It's not regulated so no one can really tell you how or how much to use - that's why the testimonials are good to see how others have had success with it. So far, I'm thrilled with my results.

RodandStaff · April 11, 2012

Wow, open contempt and corruption from politicians.. who would have figured...

Power corrupts... absolute power corrupts absolutely!

Thanks for the post divemaster... hopefully post RV we will be able to do much better with taking better care of our health as naturally as possible!

BrokeNoMore · April 11, 2012

When you start to check it out, you will see the biggest single contributor to medical degree scholarships and medical schools are the big pharmaceutical corps.

Doctors are taught to medicate from the beginning, and most are completely brainwashed by the time they finish the PH.d 6 to 10 years later.

Then when you start finding out about the monopolies they have over America, and the fact we Americans pay up to as much as 10 times the cost for the exact same drugs in Canada, so congress did the big corps a favor and made bringing them across the border illegal.

The excuse is that if Americans don't pay much higher drug costs then they will have to stop doing research on new drugs.

HUH?

The statement " The higher prices of American drugs are what support our research and development" was made during testimony to a congressional hearing, and the freaking patsy politicians, from "both" sides agreed with the twisted reasoning.

Wow, open contempt and corruption from politicians.. who would have figured...

You'd better make friends with your local Naturopath now.....

For those who don't know, the difference between a Naturopath and a Medical Doctor is very simple:

A Medical Doctor learns in school how to diagnose and treat disease with Pharmaceutical Drugs, which means treating symptoms, not actually finding cause and correcting imbalances that cause disease.

A Naturopath has all of the same training, except he becomes a doctor and learns how to use Everything Else. They also tend to be very aggressive with continuing education. They focus on cause of symptoms, not making symptoms go away.

For example, high blood pressure is not the problem. It is a symptom of a problem. Headaches are not the problem. They are a symptom of a problem. Acid reflux is not the problem. It's another symptom, and the list is endless.

Except for how Obama care is taxing us to death to pay for it, I'm not terribly interested in Medical care, outside of emergencies. Allopathic medicine is a lousy way to manage your health.

To your good health.

CRYPTO REWARDS!

Loosing Faith in "modern medicine"

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