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[JayP]

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Yes, there is proof of war cost/reparations to the USA. It is stated in the video. Again, might want to research yourself before you make silly statements.

Katie.. we discussed the war reparations last night, and I was curious if you asked Kap about this. Here was my last post, but I do not think you provided a response, but you then mentioned the war reparations again, using the same video we talked about earlier as proof:
"I do not disagree with that, and I understand about the costs of the war... but the very basis of the theory here is the statement made by Senator Menendez, so using that information that was provided to support this theory, it was specifically stated, that when talking about the expenses he mentioned the 58 Billion, not 800 Billion, and he specifically stated that he was only "told" by someone that the Iraqi oil would fund the costs.

I do not think that if we are going to use that as evidence to support anything, that we should be adding details to the supporting information that is not there. I completely understand your concern here if things do not add up, but I would ask Kaperoni about it since this was his supporting evidence to his theory that they need to RV to pay for a war. It sounds to me like his supporting evidence does not support what he is telling his members after all, and based on what you are telling me, it would seem you agree since you clearly agree that the evidence does not add up or make sense based on the total cost of the war per your link..."

Edited by JayP, 25 February 2012 - 05:51 PM.

[katie45]

You do realize that the DFI funds were from oil sales, the oil revenue still goes to the govt, the govt runs off of oil revenues (mostly) and the govt is paying to reconstruct and build the country....everything you listed above falls under this category LOL....its all related!!

So what I said is correct....the DFI account was just a better way to try and track where the money was going and that it was being spent properly....

Iraq is paying for practically all of the rebuilding costs.....

Now as far as my "stupid" statement I think we can clear that up for you to.....what do you think Iraq is paying back Kuwait with?? Ill give you a hint....we use it for money.....debt that iraq pays is in USD.....who is gonna accept a non-convertible currency as payment when it can't be used anywhere?? LOL....and where does the Iraqi govt get its USD from??? OIL!!!!!

Make sense now??

Boy i see how you change the subject when you been exposed. We were never talking about how Iraq was going to rebuild the country, we were talking about how Iraq was going to pay the coalition forces for the cost of the war. Are you a HS dropout?

[keepmwlknfny]

Boy i see how you change the subject when you been exposed. We were never talking about how Iraq was going to rebuild the country, we were talking about how Iraq was going to pay the coalition forces for the cost of the war. Are you a HS dropout?

I do believe we were talking about the costs of this war and who is paying for it.....all this we are talking about falls under the same subject....there has been a long time on going debate about the whole "this Iraqi war will pay for itself"....and the majority of what was meant by those statements by the administration at the time was about using Iraqs resources to fund the war....generally speaking but the majority of that was reconstruction costs....you know how much more the cost of the war would have been if they werent using Iraqs oil to rebuild the country??

ASTRONOMICAL!!!

Yes, there is still a big bill to foot for the rest, but its nothing of what it could have been....apparently what you kept referencing was talking about only like 58 billion dollars and even then it was mentioning oil paying for it!! And again, that would most likely be paid in USD.....soooo AGAIN it doesnt even matter if Iraq revalues cause it wont affect the USD they are paying with.....it has no affect....

Lets say Iraq has to pay back 800 billion dollars.....and this is all on paper and is legit....Iraq will be paying back with USD....you know why? Because what the hell are you gonna buy with dinar here?? What the heck can you use dinar here for? There is no use for it....

[skitealwedrop]

I do believe we were talking about the costs of this war and who is paying for it.....all this we are talking about falls under the same subject....there has been a long time on going debate about the whole "this Iraqi war will pay for itself"....and the majority of what was meant by those statements by the administration at the time was about using Iraqs resources to fund the war....generally speaking but the majority of that was reconstruction costs....you know how much more the cost of the war would have been if they werent using Iraqs oil to rebuild the country??

ASTRONOMICAL!!!

Yes, there is still a big bill to foot for the rest, but its nothing of what it could have been....apparently what you kept referencing was talking about only like 58 billion dollars and even then it was mentioning oil paying for it!! And again, that would most likely be paid in USD.....soooo AGAIN it doesnt even matter if Iraq revalues cause it wont affect the USD they are paying with.....it has no affect....

Lets say Iraq has to pay back 800 billion dollars.....and this is all on paper and is legit....Iraq will be paying back with USD....you know why? Because what the hell are you gonna buy with dinar here?? What the heck can you use dinar here for? There is no use for it....

The war is over Keep. Iraq is moving forward in a profound way. Let's not focus on the past. Please, be positive.

[keepmwlknfny]

The war is over Keep. Iraq is moving forward in a profound way. Let's not focus on the past. Please, be positive.

I know the war is over lol....was trying to help out Katie....she wanted to discuss something so we did....

[phredd]

phredd - awesome, you're using my picture for your avatar!

Same one since 2009

[rockinrich]

Well katie it seems no matter what you say their still gonna ignore what you say so why bother we will just see how this plays out and see who comes out looking the fool you can give them fact after fact and yet they still think lop so theres no cure for that lol

[keepmwlknfny]

Well katie it seems no matter what you say their still gonna ignore what you say so why bother we will just see how this plays out and see who comes out looking the fool you can give them fact after fact and yet they still think lop so theres no cure for that lol

Ohhh cause Iraq paying back the US and every other country involved in the war with revalued dinar is fact right??

You might be better suited at a site with okie....they would absolutely love you!!

[rockinrich]

dude you dont even have a clue about this investment or what iraq is gonna do and if i didnt believe in this investment i surely wouldnt waste my time posting on dinar sites lol

[MovieMaker]

Always loved Keepm, he always brings life to the thread with such determination to "Educate" or just share the other side. Love him!

[rockinrich]

geez speaking with your tata's lol

and the other side of the coin is weak

[GMartin]

dude you dont even have a clue about this investment or what iraq is gonna do and if i didnt believe in this investment i surely wouldnt waste my time posting on dinar sites lol

KEEP has obviously done research and come out with the conclusions he has. I enjoy his chats, insight and at times I like to combat him in some forums as well. I think he is a bright kid. I think the effort shows in his constant posts and maybe KEEP should change his profession to a consultant.

P.S. Keep I hear you work on BMW's? I need a good mechanic to work on my Z4 for the stuff I cannot do

[keepmwlknfny]

dude you dont even have a clue about this investment or what iraq is gonna do and if i didnt believe in this investment i surely wouldnt waste my time posting on dinar sites lol

Well you are right about one thing you said....and its probly the first time you have been right in a long time!! I surely dont know what Iraq is actually gonna do....which is why I still have my dinar....

But I do know what they are saying they are gonna do....didnt we go over this before sir?? Remember? The whole common sense bit.....you keep assuming that I dont believe in this investment but hello, if that was the case I wouldnt be here!! I really didnt think that was too hard to understand but I guess it is.....

KEEP has obviously done research and come out with the conclusions he has. I enjoy his chats, insight and at times I like to combat him in some forums as well. I think he is a bright kid. I think the effort shows in his constant posts and maybe KEEP should change his profession to a consultant.

P.S. Keep I hear you work on BMW's? I need a good mechanic to work on my Z4 for the stuff I cannot do

Sure! Ill take dinar as payment!

[HopefulTxn]

Boy i see how you change the subject when you been exposed. We were never talking about how Iraq was going to rebuild the country, we were talking about how Iraq was going to pay the coalition forces for the cost of the war. Are you a HS dropout?

Unfortunately researching the origin of the claims that the war will pay for itself always seems to lead back to the statements made by Paul Wolfowitz about the reconstruction of Iraq being paid for by Iraq. Which I believe is what Keepm was referring to.

Another unfortunate thing is that even if the statement had been made, it did not necessarily mean that they would be paying cash for anything but could have simply meant the the structuring of a more US friendly government in Iraq would be worth the cost.

If there is something that states that the monetary costs of the war will be repaid that is one thing, but politicians use phrases all the time that are meant to be taken in one way by the public but have a completely different actual reference.

[PTguy]

I still miss Bond Lady's input.

[keepmwlknfny]

I still miss Bond Lady's input.

Ummmmm......ok.......lol

[marknet73]

Hey Keep thanx for sharing your insight on this thing. i jumped in big in 2010 and was convinced we'd see an enormous profit before 2011 because a whole lot of ppl were saying it had to happen. I want this thing to pop as much as anyone because I'd like to give my 3 yo little girl everything in the world. But this investment ain't all peaches and cream like some continue to want to believe and like I did when I first invested. I think we still got a good shot at making some decent profit on this thing but I think we'll see it in smaller increments. I'd be thrilled to see it move to 1000 to 1 because that would be one of the clearest signs yet that they aren't planning to lop. at least 1166 was a tiny step in the right direction.

[keepmwlknfny]

Hey Keep thanx for sharing your insight on this thing. i jumped in big in 2010 and was convinced we'd see an enormous profit before 2011 because a whole lot of ppl were saying it had to happen. I want this thing to pop as much as anyone because I'd like to give my 3 yo little girl everything in the world. But this investment ain't all peaches and cream like some continue to want to believe and like I did when I first invested. I think we still got a good shot at making some decent profit on this thing but I think we'll see it in smaller increments. I'd be thrilled to see it move to 1000 to 1 because that would be one of the clearest signs yet that they aren't planning to lop. at least 1166 was a tiny step in the right direction.

I think thats the best signs to see as well! Smaller movements.....you and me are both on the same page in that respect!! I remember reading the articles about moving the dinar up to an even 1000 to 1 right after it moved up to 1166 but Im still waiting on them to act on it!!