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  1. I know some of you will think this is insane, but I have a different take on this. I too believe that the players have already been selected, and are waiting for a certain date to seat offically to the world. There has been several statements, most recent from cnn, allawi about september 10th. I believe this might be the date, and has been there target date all along. Now heres where I think it might be influenced by our current goverment. It would be a great time for the President, as well as the democratic party if it was around this date. When I heard that O'bama might meet with Amid a din a job ( I know I did not spell it right) in September that kinda clicked in my head that he is setting this up. If President O'bama sits with (iran), and perceives to have orchristrated the GOI seating, then he would look to be a strong Foriegn Policy Leader in the eyes of the public. Now once seated, the RV would be announced, and if it was lets say 3.22-3.86, then there would be alot of new millionaires all over the world. Now most people invested would be buying homes, starting new businesses, etc., which in turn would start stimulating the Economy. The first month October, would see a spike everywhere in the US. The second month Nov would be even greater. Maybe this is why O'bama is shoving all these new stimulous bills and healhcare, cause he knows that he can say "See my plan is working". I know this might be out there, but I'm sure he remebers just before the Pesidential Election September he got a big spike when the the Economy took a big dive. McCain could not recover in time. This would help the democratic party the same way. This to me is why the rv has dragged out. If the rv was early like april, it would give the republicans time to fight the point that it was Bush, and the Republican side who delivered this blessing, therefore it would weaken the impact in november for the democratic side. I may be wrong about this, but when I heard bidden talk about Iraq, and how it would be good for us, he was very much against the war, and for him to be smiling from ear to ear, something stinks. If you step back, and think about it, it fits like any other scenario. Most americans have no idea of this investment, so they wont put it together. Maybe biden was sent in July to prime it for O'bama to save the day in September. Ok let the bashing begin!
    22 points
  2. this was emailed to me this morning. An Opinion I am putting this particular analysis in my traditional point by point reference. MY OPINION is based on various information I have come across, been sent to me for analysis, or discussed with others. I want to clarify for everyone - I am not now a member of any chat site that deals with the Dinar, or other currencies. The only posting I have ever done and that was about 2weeks ago with my 11 point post, after which I left. Neither am I associated with any information bank. I am simply an individual who enjoys solving mysterious puzzles. When there is a Why? to anything - there is always A LOGICAL ANSWER. Most of the time I have found the answer is right in front of our face. Why are we are not seeing the answer to the Why of the Revaluation of the basket of currencies, especially the Dinar? IMO - The answer is the most obvious, the obvious which has been overlooked by so many of us. A Slight Review: IMO - Sadr and his List/Coalition have moved into the Iraqi camp. From information coming out of Iraq they would not support M any longer. IMO - with the above position of Sadr and his followers the clock for completion was fast reaching the Hour for a final decision. IMO - the hands of the clock were inching closer and closer to a final decision - A or M - once time ran out there would be no more extentions of time allowed. IMO - the Kurds then aligned themselves with A because it would be more benifical to their coalition in being garranteed in writing the majority of the demands. IMO - from information, from various sources, the inital meeting(s) between A and M fell apart - and the two individuals did not join together to share the PM positon. With each individual recieving a 2 year appointment as PM then serving the remaining 2 years as President. A to fill the first 2 years and M to serve the last 2 years. We know the Iraqi Parliment was seated some time ago. We also know the Parilment was not suspended. Was this because the Parilment could not finish their Constitutional duties, until the various Lists/Coalitions completed what they had to do? IMO - I have every reason to believe the that everything is over - IMO - from the information coming out of Iraq via what ever means it is being delievered, there seems to be a lot of celebrating going on. A lot of Joy among the people. Why I ask? Does anyone else find it very odd that Muslims around the world are celebrating Ramadam - and the followers of Islam in Iraq are not - hummm I wonder why that is? IMO - If you have nothing more to discuss - no more issues to work out - then additonal meetings to make a choice are no longer needed - Then its time to go home and have one heck of a party. Of course this is JUST my opinion. IMO - Is TiaC the only one who finds it very odd that Muslims around the world are celebrating Ramadam, which lasts for exactly 30 days - and as of today, the 12th of August the followers of Islam,in Iraq are not. For those of you who are not Muslim - Ramadam is also the traditonal period of time a devotee of Islam makes their piligramage to Mecca. This journey is made by foot, not by train, plane, or automobile, or other modern conveyance. Seems the powers that be in Iraq are delaying Ramadam - apparently 1 day at a time! Why on earth would that be? Hummm TiaC asks - Is it possible the reason for the delay in the start of Ramadam has something to do with the finalization and installation of the Iraqi PM (A) and the Presidents? Is there more to the delay of the formal announcement of the offical Iraqi government - including the global announcement of the RV of their currancy - IMO there is something more and may very well answer the magic question of - Why has the 'new offical Iraqi Government along with the RV for their currency not been announced? Please REMEMBER this is just the opinion of TiaC. IMO -1. It is my understanding when a countries currency is going to finally revalue a final accounting/auit is done to determine the current, not the past, value of their assets. IMO - 2. #1 is or has been done. (reports recieved of mass celebrating be done in Iraq) The total value of Iraqi's assets in the early 1970's through the late 1990's is vastly different from the assessed value of their assets as of the 11th of August 2010. IMO - 3. Because of the massive increase in the overall value of Iraq's sovern assets I am of the opinion the declared value of a Dinar will be substancially more than the original estamite of $3.21/$3.22. IMO - 4. Due to the higher asset value is would not shock me to see the amount of the RV's Dinar to be between $3.68 and $4.25. IMO - 5. I will go with $4.10 - $4.25 (Just my opinion of course) Please Remember this is just the opinion of TiaC: I believe that what I am next going to say can be borne out by various articles and intel which has been recieved over a lengthy period of time. IMO - The RV of the Dinar has to take place very shortly. IMO -(1) for Ramadam to be celebrated in Iraq. IMO -(2) in preparation for the Iraqi currency to be a viable tradeable currency for offical placement on the ISSX (Iraqi Stock Exchange) IMO - (3) It is my understand a country's currency has to be considered a tradeable currency 30 - 45 days prior to being placed on the ISSX (Iraqi Stock Exchange) - ISSX rules not mine... It has been stated the Iraqi currency, the Dinar, will be going on the ISSX (Iraqi Stock Exchange) October of 2010. Now for the million dollar question? If #3 is so, then when would the Iraqi Dinar be most likely be RV'D? In My Humble Opinion - August 14th - August 31st. IMO - Folks we are looking at it square in the face. Personally, I like the 14th thru the 21st of August for those days hold the fondest memories for me. Just my humble opinion,
    14 points
  3. * Groovgal chat: Dinar Speculator 8/12/10 AUGUST 12, 2010 · POSTED IN CHATS / POSTS groovgal: Well, if you read the news coming out of Iraq, one would almost believe that it is truthful… LMAO… I mean seriously??? The news is like ground hog day! butterfly: lol groovgal: But, there is one piece of information that has come out in the articles: and I knew the information 2 weeks ago Both Butterfly and Medic can support it butterfly: groovgal: I just couldn’t say anything and that is that UN Troops were flown into Iraq As well as US troops I also know as many of you do that a lot of the troops who have been serving in Iraq are heading home A friend of mine is already back with his family So here the dish on that… now that the actual act of having flown them in is no longer secret The UN Troops are being flown in for what many of you most likely have already guessed and that is for peace keeping They are prepared for a civil war Actually let me rephrase that There has been a civil war for years but they are prepared for another outbreak or another rise in crime But this new set of troops aren’t there for war but are there mainly for peace keeping and to gain control if something were to go wrong or get out of had hand**** Now, I personally couldn’t care less who takes control of the government They can do whatever they want at this point, if it would only promise that I or you don’t have to read another dang article about Iraq LOL brownbaby: i would love that! mountainman: I hear that groovgal: me too guys I’m so sick of hearing this crud as I’m sure y’all are as well But, there’s some news that I cannot share This news was given to me again 2 weeks ago glo123: how bout a hint lol groovgal: and Med called me about 6 days ago butterfly: guys come on dont ask groovgal: with the EXACT same information I shared this info with Butterfly when i got it I didn’t share it with Medic Why?? Because to be honest It was the first time that I had receieved information and I thought it was crap LOL brownbaby: lets let her finish please…..we are all anxious to see what she has to say groovgal: So I didn’t see a point in wasting Med’s or anyone else’s mountainman: groovgal I’m broken hearted over here groovgal: LOL MM Thanks BB Well, come to find out the information I had was true and correct and I shouldn’t have doubted it guess I’m just getting burnt out like everyone is One day we’re in the game and the next we’re playing the darn hokey pokey it seems Anyhow, I’ll say this… I’m told that the government well be made up of the Kurds and the List Maliki is out but that doesn’t rule out the ROL INA or NC It will be an inclusive government but my friend is still saying absolutely no Maliki IMO it seriously doesn’t matter except for the people of Irq Iraq*** and also a time frame Allawi wants his country to leap into prosperity Maliki wants power for us it’s best if Allawi gets it The RV will occurr either way but It’s my opinion that it will happen sooner with Allawi Now, I’m also hearing continued questions as to how the RV will go down I want to say this and I’m not trying to ruin anyone’s hope but keep everyone grounded on what is realistic We won’t see an RV immediately upon seating the government it will take some time for them to go through the process it is my opinion that while we don’t need a release of chapter 7 for them to RV That the IMF does and in all honesty WE SHOULD TOO why?? because it will give them more assets to support a higher rate Now, we’ll most likely see a removal of Ch7 and an RV within 72 hours imo of each other NOT FROM TODAY lol had to make that one clear. Lord knows what would happen if that got out on the web Oh, and realistically the rate will not shoot up above $4 Iraq cannot sustain it although peeps on the web are saying some pretty strange things nowadays butterfly: $5.26 groovgal: I think Butterfly showed me something where someone was saying $9 bucks or so LMAO Butterfly mountainman: There goes butterflys $5.26 groovgal: I’ll take 5.26 well, that’s about all I had… or all I can say… Things are happening… WATCH THE UN NEWS AND CH7 News mountainman: 10 to 1 odds we see the RV before Iraq is out of Chpt 7 butterfly: i disagree mm could be but i think they will release ch 7 then rv groovgal: MM.. possible but we’ll see a release within 72 hours butterfly: i am with gg on this one lol groovgal: Doh, MM… she’s with me! mountainman: Nope butterfly they rv first … lower value … then they get outa Chpt 7 and increase the value of the dinar butterfly: ok mm, u have your theory, i have mine lol groovgal: What’s the point of that MM all they are doing is spawning big time speculation mountainman: groovgal gives Iraq time to collect more dinars in at a lower rate butterfly: and under IMF rules, they cant change the rate that much once they are un art 8, correct? groovgal: That is correct Butter 402raptor: gg you said iyo allawii would show a quicker rv,it would have rv’d months ago if maliki wasnt around butterfly: soooo blows that theory out then there mm aceandspeed: groovgal, there’s alot of different opinions on seating of gov’t. What’s your thoughts on when that will happen? groovgal: I agree 402 butterfly: it shoudl have happened last year raptor groovgal: lol butter mountainman: My new prediction is early Sept groovgal: T as Pres… A as PM… etc etc butterfly: for govt or rv mm 402raptor: hell it could be longer than we think if maliki is pm butterfly: not really raptor again, under IMF rules they cant stall it out like before 402raptor: hope not butterfly butterfly: there is tremendous world pressure now on this more than ever keep that in mind jim1943: why not bf butterfly: this has a global impact groovgal: I HIGHLY doubt that Maliki finds a chair well, in the government He might find one in another country instead moonbeam: GG, do you still think the UN will force the gov’t to form, as we had anticipated at the Aug 4th meeting? groovgal: Med and I both agree that what is about to happen isn’t right yes, moonbeam, I do… although we won’t read about it we’ll read about additional threat but never a forceful seating 402raptor: gg your opion,weeksor months after goi formed groovgal: propaganda, imo it’s really hard to say 402. After they seat we’ll have a better idea 402raptor: ty groovgal: according to what i’m hearing now, it’s possible that it could happen by Oct… but that could change…. butterfly: meaning the RV, not seatin govt groovgal: Right BF butterfly: gotta clarify groovgal: yes, sorry BF alphonse43: gg, in any event, you like sometime in 2010 ? groovgal: alright, well I’m off for the night peeps… Everyone have a blessed evening… and YES I do Alphonse which is only within the next 4 months butterfly: if i can change ,and yous can change, we all can change! groovgal: Keep the change Tags: no tags COMMENTS
    10 points
  4. Thank You to kcw for taking the time to copy the chat [scooter] So what's the latest [scooter] anybody have any juicy news [scooter] I've been in lock down in some research [scooter] it's now blossomed into [scooter] mega topics [RDP_62] Scooter i think everyone is waiting on your next post [Cyn] Scooter Keepm..Thought you might have some good news coming!!! [scooter] Always [Cyn] Scooter And? [scooter] There's good news all over --- the tasc are getting completed -- [scooter] everything is running smoothly from what I see [scooter] lets see [scooter] The MofF is completing the distributions [scooter] I have a much better translation of of the law itself [scooter] and chasing an interesting lead in terms of the schedule [scooter] RDP_62 My next post huh? [RDP_62] Scooter thats what keep said [scooter] I was hoping to have that out earlier this week [scooter] Sorry [scooter] a little late [scooter] It was the vacation thing [scooter] happens all the time [RDP_62] Scooter np,enjoy all your work [scooter] [Cyn] Scooter Have you read Groovegal latest post? [scooter] TY [scooter] Parts of it -- [scooter] What did you think [Cyn] Scooter It has followed alot of what you have been saying for a while... [scooter] ohhhhh [scooter] very very cool [RDP_62] Scooter we all would like to have this done tomorrow,but as long as it is this year i think we can wait it out [Cyn] Scooter She is talking more like October timeframe... [scooter] RDP_62 It has to be this year [RDP_62] Scooter yessssssss [scooter] The aftershocks and problems would be very harmful to the people of Iraq [scooter] Cyn Excellent !!! [scooter] October 31 is when the Banking reform concludes [scooter] I need to check however the public finance reform [scooter] schedule [scooter] They just added some addtional task [cook100] Scooter how much does the ISX going international play into this time frame [scooter] Plays very well [Cyn] Scooter But is there a deadline for ISX? Or can they jump in anytime?? [scooter] October is the month that two other items occur [beancounter8] isx cant go intl unless currency is recognized, but they have set dates to go intl in the past and moved them, so no guarantee this date will be any different [scooter] The ISX is targeted for international recognition [scooter] and two [scooter] The US is bringing over a bunch of corps over for a trade show and meetings [scooter] beancounter8 correct! [Cyn] Scooter Would they want an RV BEFORE those meetings or after?? [cook100] Scooter iyo how much lead time for the currency to settle down [beancounter8] http://www.aknews.com/en ••• /173419/ read this [scooter] The currency first -- it's the basis -- then the stocks and equities [scooter] one minute [Cyn] Scooter Tick Tock Tick Tock..lol [scooter] haha [scooter] ok -- consolidation period [scooter] hmmmm [scooter] It believe it should be in the 30 -60 day period [scooter] However, I'm chasing a lead that suggest 30 days [scooter] Caught me off guard [RDP_62] Scooter sorry i had to step out...30 days for rv? [scooter] RDP_62 [RDP_62] Scooter i musta missed sometin [scooter] ok -- consolidation period [Cyn] Scooter You are still not concerned with the GOI having to form first? [scooter] Cyn Not at all [chas32] Scooter so...you're not thinking Labor Day weekend anymore? [scooter] chas32 I think September is high target month [chas32] sounds good to me! Thank! [scooter] Just a couple phrases that I didn't like [scooter] nothing to be concerned with though [scooter] Scooby Doo Scooby Doo Scooby Doo Scooby Doo Scooby Doo What am I posting? [chas32] phrases? [scooter] chas32 TY -- that means a great deal! [scooter] RDP_62 I have not yet -- but intend to -- [RDP_62] Scooter good read [scooter] Big fan of AM [Scooby Doo] I thought you said you were going to post something last week? [scooter] chas32 I think labor day weekend is a great place to set up and test the system and Ramadan ends the 11th [chas32] Scooter yes...makes sense. [scooter] and there's a task that concludes at the end of the month that I need to verify [scooter] Other than that -- I like September -- it scores the highest out of all the months [Cyn] Scooter Do you know if all the provences received their allocations? [RDP_62] Scooter did you read adams cash in guide for dummies? [chas32] Scooter glad to hear it. You put together more factual information than anyone I've read. [scooter] Cyn I thought they did -- yet -- I saw another item get distributed yesterday [scooter] I think the majority is complete http://newdinarchat.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1445&mode=linear#post1445
    9 points
  5. Is it just me? Now days it seems like people are saying things like, "I had this information last week but couldn't say anything". Or, "I have new information but can't talk about it". I guess my question would be, why bother. I can come in here and say I had this information a week ago, or I have great news but I can't tell you just yet. What is the point? Please don't waste our time with this nonsense. We really don't care if you had the news a week ago or not, and we really don't care if you have news you cannot share. If you can't share then don't say anything. Really, is it just me? IMO
    9 points
  6. just click the link and watch the video here are 3 diffrent link so watch and Enjoy and remember me in your prayers Go Rv .. Iraqi Dinar : When will the Iraqi Dinar be Revalued http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3cypsISuc 2nd : Iraqi Dinar : FACTS & FICTIONS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfzPZkMXl2c 3rd one...Iraqi Dinar : RISKS & REWARDS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jp94jSPQv8
    8 points
  7. This was just sent to me by my friend Bob. Hot news from the GET ChatRoom...! CONF CALL NOTES: Formation of Government and RV/RI Soon - 12 August 2010 Below is the text from Enorrste's speech on our last minute call tonight: Hello, everyone. I am happy to report that I have some good news for you all. Everything that I am going to say is based upon news articles that are available to anyone, so this is not a rumor. The INA has officially separated with the State of Law, as of yesterday. They are going to align themselves with the Iraqiya List of Allawi. This means that Maliki no longer has a claim on the PM position, since he is back to 89 votes, while Allawi has 91 plus the 70 of the INA, as soon as that alliance is announced. In addition, the Kurds met with Allawi and Maliki in the last couple of days. They gave a list of 20 demands to each of the candidates and said that whoever agreed to the most demands, they would follow. Maliki balked, but Allawi signed off on all 20 demands immediately. Therefore, the official coalition will consist of the INA, Iraqiya, and the Kurds, as I stated some 8 weeks ago. Maliki will NOT be offered a position in the government. Furthermore, Talabani, who is president of the republic, announced that Maliki’s term of service is now over, as of yesterday. He further announced that he himself has Vwithdrawn his support for Maliki entirely. Finally, Talabani has also announced that the Parliament will be reconvened as soon as possible to formally announce the formation of the new government. Since tomorrow is a holy day, we should expect parliament to meet on Saturday. The announcement of the formation of the new government will open the doors for the RV/RI, which should be announced within a couple of days after that. Our long wait is nearly over. Now, this is consistent with what was announced by TerryK, Gottabme, and hifox17, who was copying a chat from hiram601 last night on chat. They all had received “intel” that the announcement of the new government would be made on Friday. This could very well happen. Then on Saturday we would have the official voting in of the 3 Presidencies, and the RV/RI will follow shortly after that, possibly as early as Monday. That’s it. (of course, "I could be wrong") SUPPORTING NEWS ARTICLES: http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=1&id=21921 Al-Kenani: We expect an agreement soon with the Iraqi National Alliance on behalf of to the exclusion of Al-Maliki Naji Mohammed -11/08/2010 ad-5: 10 | readers number: 33 Liberal bloc said of the sadrist movement والمنضوية in the national coalition, Wednesday, that the coalition is currently negotiating with the Iraqi List, a coalition to form the government, but to the exclusion of the candidacy of the leader of a coalition of the rule of law, nouri Al-Maliki, for a second term, expected of an agreement between ndp and Iraqi Kurdish coalition, as well as to a candidate for prime minister from the coalition in the next few days. The Secretary-General of the cluster Prince Kanani said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "The National Coalition will agree with the list of Iraq to form a government on behalf of the National Alliance, with the exclusion of Maliki's nomination for a second term," noting that "the approval of the Iraqi negotiating with the National Coalition on behalf of the coalition or not It is up to them. " Iraqi President calls for formation of cabinet in Ramadan Politics 8/11/2010 1:02:00 PM BAGHDAD, Aug 11 (KUNA) -- Iraqi President Jalal Talibanai urged on Thursday for formation of the new cabinet during the holy month of Ramadan. In a message to the Iraqi people and the Muslims of the world on the occasion of the holy month, he also urged more cooperation and unity among all Iraqis to enable the nation to realize its ambitions. He added that Ramadan inspires a sense of responsibility towards building the homeland and bringing stability and economical prosperity. Speeding up efforts to form a united government to lead Iraq through its many challenges is one means of ensuring the future of all Iraqis, he said. (end) mhg.*** KUNA 111302 Aug 10NNNN http://www.kuna.net.kw/N ••• guage=en (link doesn't work, trying to get corrected link ASAP) Kurdistan Alliance delegation meets Iraqiya list in Baghdad Wednesday, August 11th 2010 9:47 PM Erbil, Aug. 10 (AKnews) – A member of Kurdistan Alliance announced that the Kurdistan Alliance delegation met on Wednesday the leader of Iraqiya list Ayad Allawi to discuss the current political situation in Iraq and the latest updates regarding the new government formation. The Kurdistan Alliance has planned to ally with the winning Iraqi political parties based on a proposal which deals with the Kurdish basic rights in the national constitution, such as Article 140, the oil contracts and the Kurdish forces "Peshmarga". Dara Mohammad said about the meeting, "We have submitted the Kurdistan Alliance's a proposal that includes 20 points in order to encourage Allawi to shape the Iraqi new government." The Kurdistan Alliance delegation also submitted on Tuesday its proposal to the head of the Iraqi Supreme Islamic Council (ISIC) Ammar al-Hakim in Baghdad. Ba/ae AKnews. TV news/Baghdad The Liberal bloc of the comrades there, the national coalition, Wednesday, the Coalition is currently in negotiations with the Iraqi list of national coalition Government was formed, but excluding leader Maliki law State Coalition for a second term, unexpected occurrence of agreement among national and Iraqi Kurdistan Alliance with out a candidate for Prime Minister of the Coalition during the next few days. JULY 11, 2010 BY FRED WILSON LEAVE A COMMENT BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Iraqiya bloc leader Iyad Allawi on Friday expected the Iraqi government lineup to take form in August and the three top state posts to be clear late this month. “I believe that matters are God willing heading in the right direction. Negotiations are in the final stages and we hope to end this affair as soon as possible,” Lebanon’s national information agency quoted Allawi as saying after a meeting with Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri. “I have briefed Prime Minister Hariri on developments in Iraq and the negotiations to form an Iraqi government as soon as possible,” said Allawi, a former prime minister of Iraq. This week has seen a breakthrough between Allawi’s al-Iraqiya bloc, which won 91 seats in the March 7 legislative elections, and incumbent Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s Dawlat al-Qanoon (State of Law), which came second with 89 seats. The constitutional deadline to name a president of the republic and a speaker of parliament will end on July 13. The president, according to the constitution, would designate a prime minister within 15 days. Allawi confirms the need to agree on the three presidencies outside parliament « on: Today at 08:12:31 PM » Quote Allawi also stressed that Iraq needs a strong government with words and political concepts and clear, noting that the concepts of its list of Atnaqd or contrary to religion and rejecting at the same time the process of politicization faced by schools of thought. In the context of his speech was interpreted by Dr. Iyad Allawi, the need to agree on the three presidencies outside the parliament that the political process is now going through a transition and it should get political agreements outside the scope of Parliament for fear of collapse of the political situation and the whole process in the country. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alfayhaa.tv/news/iraq/37379.html&rurl=translate.google.com
    7 points
  8. With all due respect to you, I have my Birth Certificate and have no problem showing it to anyone on request. Showing it to you for example whould in no way endanger me to identity theft nor would it compromise me in any way. For example, my Social Security Number is not listed on my Birth Certificate and a casual glance by someone, such as yourself, would only reveal my place of birth, parents and date of birth. I guess I must be a birther because I would like to see President Obama's Birth Certificate because there is so much speculation about his USA citizenship. This controversy would go away forever with the production of Obama's Birth Certificate. Until it is produced, it is a controversy and any Constution respectiing individual must have a legitimate concern about Obama's ability to serve as President of the United States of America. The fact that Obama's Birth Certificate is not available casts a "cloud" over his legitimacy to hold office.
    7 points
  9. Plane Crash A plane crashed in the middle of rural Oklahoma . Panic stricken, the local sheriff mobilized and descended on the ranch in force. When they got there, the disaster was clear. The aircraft was totally destroyed with only a burned hulk left smoldering in a tree line that bordered a farm. The sheriff and his men entered the smoking mess but could find no remains of anyone. They spotted a lone farmer plowing a field not too far away as if nothing had happened. They hurried over to the man's tractor. "Hank," the sheriff yelled, panting and out of breath. "Did you see this terrible accident happen?". "Yep. Sure did." the farmer mumbled unconcernedly, cutting off the tractor's engine. "Do you realize that is the airplane of the President of the United States ?" "Yep." "Were there any survivors?" "Nope. They's all kilt straight out," the farmer answered. "I done buried them all myself. Took me most of the morning.." "President Obama is dead?" the sheriff shouted. "Well," the farmer grumbled, restarting his tractor. "He kept a-saying he wasn't ... But you know how much that sumbitch lies."
    6 points
  10. Americans reject Obama in record numbers August 4, 11:08 AM According to a new USA TODAY/Gallup poll, Obama's approval rating has now reached an all-time low of 41%. Support for President "Change" is bottoming out on virtually every issue, from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, to the economy. Even his seemingly invincible personal popularity is now beginning to suffer. Voters reject his radical Marxist ideas, want his tyrannical leftist agenda immediately repealed and only inside-the-beltway Washington elites think this country is headed in the right direction. 84% of Mainstream Americans, on the other hand, grasp that Obama and his Constitution-trampling war on the free market is destroying this country. http://www.examiner.com/x-35976-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m8d4-Americans-reject-Obama-in-record-numbers
    6 points
  11. The President Without A Country By Pat Boone "We're no longer a Christian nation." - President barack obama, June 2009 " America has been arrogant." - President barack obama "After 9/11, America didn't always live up to her ideals."- President barack obama "You might say that America is a Muslim nation."- President barack obama, Egypt 2009 Thinking about these and other statements made by the man who wears the title of president. I keep wondering what country he believes he's president of. In one of my very favorite stories, Edward Everett Hale's "The Man without a Country," a young Army lieutenant named Philip Nolan stands condemned for treason during the Revolutionary War, having come under the influence of Aaron Burr. When the judge asks him if he wishes to say anything before sentence is passed, young Nolan defiantly exclaims, "Damn the United States ! I wish I might never hear of the United States again!" The stunned silence in the courtroom is palpable, pulsing. After a long pause, the judge soberly says to the angry lieutenant: "You have just pronounced your own sentence. You will never hear of the United States again.. I sentence you to spend the rest of your life at sea, on one or another of this country's naval vessels - under strict orders that no one will ever speak to you again about the country you have just cursed." And so it was. Philip Nolan was taken away and spent the next 40 years at sea, never hearing anything but an occasional slip of the tongue about America. The last few pages of the story, recounting Nolan's dying hours in his small stateroom - now turned into a shrine to the country he fore swore - never fail to bring me to tears. And I find my own love for this dream, this miracle called America , refreshed and renewed. I know how blessed and unique we are. But reading and hearing the audacious, shocking statements of the man who was recently elected our president - a young black man living the impossible dream of millions of young Americans, past and present, black and white - I want to ask him, "Just what country do you think you're president of?" You surely can't be referring to the United States of America, can you? America is emphatically a Christian nation, and has been from its inception! Seventy percent of her citizens identify themselves as Christian. The Declaration of Independence and our Constitution were framed, written and ratified by Christians. It's because this was, and is, a nation built on and guided by Judeo-Christian biblical principles that you, sir, have had the inestimable privilege of being elected her president. You studied law at Harvard, didn't you, sir? You taught constitutional law in Chicago? Did you not ever read the statement of John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and an author of the landmark "Federalist Papers": " Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers - and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation - to select and prefer Christians for their rulers"? In your studies, you surely must have read the decision of the Supreme Court in 1892: "Our lives and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian." Did your professors have you skip over all the high-court decisions right up till the mid 1900's that echoed and reinforced these views and intentions? Did you pick up the history of American jurisprudence only in 1947, when for the first time a phrase coined by Thomas Jefferson about a "wall of separation between church and state" was used to deny some specific religious expression - contrary to Jefferson' s intent with that statement? Or, wait a minute . were your ideas about America's Christianity formed during the 20 years you were a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ under your pastor, Jeremiah Wright? Is that where you got the idea that " America is no longer a Christian nation"? Is this where you, even as you came to call yourself a Christian, formed the belief that "America has been arrogant"? Even if that's the understandable explanation of your damning of your country and accusing the whole nation (not just a few military officials trying their best to keep more Americans from being murdered by jihadists) of "not always living up to her ideals," how did you come up with the ridiculous, alarming notion that we might be "considered a Muslim nation"? Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans? Out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians? Does that make us, by any rational definition, a "Muslim nation"? Why are we not, then, a "Chinese nation"? A "Korean nation"? Even a "Vietnamese nation"? There are even more of these distinct groups in America than Muslims. And if the distinction you're trying to make is a religious one, why is America not "a Jewish nation"? There's actually a case to be made for the latter, because our Constitution - and the success of our Revolution and founding - owe a deep debt to our Jewish brothers. Have you stopped to think what an actual Muslim America would be like? Have you ever really spent much time in Iran? Even in Egypt? You, having been instructed in Islam as a kid at a Muslim school in Indonesia and saying you still love the call to evening prayers, can surely picture our nation founded on the Quran, not the Judeo-Christian Bible, and living under Shariah law. Can't you? You do recall Muhammad's directives [surah 9:5,73] to "break the cross" and "kill the infidel"? It seems increasingly and painfully obvious that you are more influenced by your upbringing and questionable education than most suspected.. If you consider yourself the president of a people who are "no longer Christian," who have "failed to live up to our ideals," who "have been arrogant," and might even be "considered Muslim" - you are president of a country most Americans don't recognize. Could it be you are a president without a country?
    6 points
  12. No bashing here; I think you are spot on, which depresses me because the last thing I want to see is an economic upturn right as we head into the mid-term elections. Those of us who want a change in the Congress need to keep people focused on the ongoing downturn and the train wreck that is Obama's track record to date. Send your note to a Republican Senator/Congressman. I will. We need to get their attention so they can work around this situation to their advantage.
    6 points
  13. A Saudi plant ? that's possible. What we do know is that he is a muslim, not a christian. He has no US birth record, evidence of birth in Kenya is overwhelming, and he is destroying our Country possibly beyond repair .
    6 points
  14. If I'm reading this correctly, it seems like Frank is sticking to what he's been saying for some time now. He's repeating that his intel says the goi has already been seated, but they're working behind the scenes to get everything nailed down before they release this to the world. It seems that he's also sticking to the timeline that he put out there weeks ago, which is that the RV should happen on the 15th. Call me a sap, but why not believe that it could be happening? Somebody has to have decent intel, why not Frank? Go RV!!!
    6 points
  15. Doesn't matter. It is none of your concern and very rude for you to point out to the rest of the forum. All are welcome to post their findings. Some research finance, others political structure. Their posts normally reflect what interests them the most. It does not point to an obsession. Perhaps, just perhaps, you have taken just enough psychology/sociology classes to make you a pain in the a$$.. Just an idea.. Think about it.. The rest of us will be......... Carla, thanks for all you do....... Ron
    5 points
  16. Please... Back off, I only respond to your personal bashings to me, so if you stop you will not have a response to your personal jabs. Just post about the subject and you will be fine. Enough said and your welcome to send me a pm if you wish to attack me personally but keep it off the forum. Geesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessings, carla
    5 points
  17. Your welcome to read my posts, but back off and post about the subject if you wish, not me. I see you have nothing constructive to say about this read. So say nothing.
    5 points
  18. This was a joke man….you need to lighten up. Frankly, I am offended that you would suggest that I would want to see a president killed, sitting because I posted a stupid joke. Furthermore, you have no right to call into question my patriotism. You, friiend just stoked my fires and the flame burns brightly! Get off your high horse! Dawg
    5 points
  19. VERY WELL STATED.... Thanks for the posts everybody.. It always comes down to the same thing..... We just don't know...... Stay positive, It will happen, but it will happen in their time and space with no regard to us at all... It is not about us. I wonder sometimes, if there are folks on here who get in their closet and look at their stack of "Savings Bonds" and wonder if they are still OK . And if you don't, in this volatile economy, why don't you?? Maybe because it is out of your hands. Well, this is also. Relax, its coming.......
    5 points
  20. I like Frank, he's a good Christian brother! I think his posts are fun to read, like a big puzzle! Go RV!!!!
    5 points
  21. Frank has advocated $3 plus since the beginning. Everyone reads him and hopes for more info. But only b**ch about his cryptic writing. He is a man of god and someone I look forward to meeting. The bashers even gave me a -2 because I called them out. Funny how that works. Countless chats/posts are copied and put in this site for members. Frank gets as much h**l as the GET team. It's a catastrophe. I like your comments...like a sage older man who knows that he knows what he knows. I find him enlightening and refreshing. His is the only post worth waiting for. Lucky for members here, Frank is not posting again till after the 15th. I am a member of his site too. Very good information there too.
    5 points
  22. Not one positive reply...zero. stop reading him or read and hush. All of you are being so bloody rude. Frank will not change...so change must come from you. He was highlighting how difficult the .01% of people are towards him. And all of you just proved him right.
    5 points
  23. The Infamous De La Rue Machine Stop Relying on Your Certificate and/or a De La Rue Machine Scan for Authenticity of Your IQD Most holders of IQD know that they are printed by the De La Rue Corporation of Viables, Basingstoke, Hampshire, England with some of the most sophisticated equipment in the world while utilizing some of the most difficult to counterfeit features imaginable. It only makes sense that they would also produce a cash counting machine with verification/authentication features. We’ve all heard about how the De La Rue Machine, specifically the Brandt 8625, which is used to authenticate IQD by most vendors ... and when IQD are run through them you get a certificate telling you that your IQD is the real deal! When I started buying I didn’t get a certificate … nor did I fret since I was purchasing IQD from the largest purveyor of IQD in America at the time and because I understood that the certificate proffered is only as good as the people who write it and will be good only as long as they are in business (when they close their doors and you haven’t verified your IQD; if they are indeed counterfeit, you are stuck … no one to take to court and only yourself to blame).My plan was to learn the security features of the IQD which seemed more prudent than a certificate … and become as expert as possible rather than rely on someone else. We have a small group in SW Florida that helps folks purchase IQD by sharing banking fees and FedEx expenses. As our little group grew I taught all that bought IQD; insisting that they count the number of bills that they received to verify that they had indeed received what was due them and then one by one go through the steps of authenticating an Iraqi Dinar. After a few tries, most could carry on a conversation while going through the steps taking anywhere from 1.5 – 3 seconds per bill. Several weeks ago a friend who had purchased for himself and his friends called. He was worried because two bills appeared to have the same serial number. I told him that I was sure that with careful scrutiny that he would see a slight difference in the Arabic numbers but that if he would bring them over I would replace them with other notes. He agreed and arrived within minutes. I examined the notes and with my 55 year old eyes they did look very similar … I told him that non-familiar scripts often appear the same. I used a 10X diamond loupe and the differences were obvious immediately. I handed him the loupe and he instantly concurred. Regardless, I handed him two different notes to give his friend and explained that they were obviously sequential … at least within 9 digits of each other (still not knowing their numbering system). We later discovered that they were indeed sequential … the Eastern Arabic numbers for 2 and 3. He was grateful that I knew what it was and that I handled it quickly and succinctly. For me … I merely swapped two good bills for two other good bills. No big deal. This past weekend, this same friend called me and asked what I thought about buying a De La Rue machine. “That way, everyone could run their’s through the machine and have increased confidence in their purchase/investment/currency exchange/whatever.” I really didn’t see the need for one … however, I did understand that he or his friend were still a bit unnerved about the sequential bills ... in fact the only reason that I could see to buy one would be to help me accurately count bills for buyers and I told him that I had heard that they were very expensive. He told me that he had located some used units (the same ones used by all of the IQD vendors) and their price was not all that bad if I could find a couple of guys to go in with us. He sent me a link and I spent the weekend looking into it. What I found was eye opening to say the least! Briefly, I discovered that there are various types of counterfeit detection systems, including multi-currencies: * UV (Ultraviolet) * IR (Infra-Red) * EMG (Enhanced Magnetics) * MTD (Metal Thread) * PPD (Paper Properties Detection) for US$ * SMDS (Superior Magnetic Detection System) or €III detector and more. Mostly I discovered that these were for authentication of the most highly counterfeited currency on the planet, the USD. They don’t apply to IQD or hardly any other currency that you might be familiar with. To see exactly what was going on when a De La Rue 8625 processed bills, I called De La Rue (now Talaris) and asked for the most experienced rep that they had regarding all of their models and authentication. I had to wait for a call back from a different time zone but the wait was worth it because this guy knew all of the products new and old. When I quizzed him about IQD he told me that the only feature that it has that was identifiable by a currency counter is UV. (This is actually borne out in the video above, about 16 seconds into the clip, as he explains, “that the Saddam Dinar has a different UV signature than the New Iraqi Dinar”.) I told him that the UV feature is possibly the least impressive feature on the IQD (which is rated as the 4th most difficult to counterfeit) and that any concert/bar/dance hall patron had experienced a version of it when their hand/etc. was stamped with an ultraviolet ink via a rubber stamp which was only visible under a wood’s lamp/UV light/black light. Most people think it’s great because it seems like it “magically” appears from nowhere … when in reality using a rubber stamp of the same size and shape and applied to the correct location on a bill with ink of the approximate wave length is “child’s play”. When I asked him if doing the aforementioned on a piece of white paper cut to the same size as an IQD and placed in a stack of IQD, would be rejected as a counterfeit or whether it would pass as authentic he responded, “it’s possible” that it would be authenticated. I asked about other models at any price and I was told that when a machine had other detection systems that they had to be turned off! The only exception to this were two European systems with patent right infringement problems in America and costing about $45,000 (named N-Tegra and N-Vision) and designed for tellers for a buy/sell currency situation where the currencies were identified by authenticating software and stored in the systems vault (in and out) rather than involving the main vault. My guy didn’t know whether the authentication software even existed for IQD! Bottom line … IQD authentication is by the easiest to fake security feature …the postage stamp size UV feature on the back of the IQD! Not the raised ink. Not the water mark. Not the foil strip. Not the color changing ink. Not the metallic ink at the dove nor the backside of the foil strip. Not the paper. Not the webbing. Not positional placement of objects in relation to other objects on the bills. And certainly not a combination of any of these security features! To counterfeit the IQD you would not only have to be a master forger but a master paper maker. These two skills are not one in the same but are two separate skill sets. The fourth most difficult to counterfeit! Yet the currency counter authentication feature is not MTD (metal thread) AND UV … Nor is it just MTD ... it is just UV … UNBELIEVABLE!!! For the record, the serial numbers are written in Eastern Arabic. The numeral conversions can be discovered here: http://www.dinarprofits.com/iraqi_dinar_information/security_features/ My friend and I have since decided that we don’t need a De La Rue machine to authenticate anything! Counting machines can be purchased at Sam’s Club for less than a used De La Rue machine. I believe that the “intel” from various sites regarding banks requiring a De La Rue machine to "actually authenticate" IQD for RI/RV is at the least suspect … they may use it for convenience sake but a $5 hand held black light will do the same thing. Yes, I understand that processing hundreds of thousands of bills will preclude them from doing this ... that is why I said "actually authenticate" ... and they do need something to speed up the process or they would hold up our money forever ... and yes it is the only thing available to them. If I haven't already made my point it's just that the equipment be used ... isn't really up to the job of authenticating anything. As far as bank employees requiring training on the De La Rue machine … I have serious doubts. I mean 1) plug unit in 2) turn unit on 3) place stack of bills in tray 4) press start button … there … you’ve been trained. Didn’t get your training? Here’s the Operator’s Manual : www.welchsystems.com/DTP-DATA-8625-0302.pdf take a minute … okay, now you are trained! Please understand, I’m not taking a shot at Frank … I’m taking a shot at those who I believe lied to Frank! I don’t like it when other folks lie to the folks who help me on a regular basis. Further, I’m not taking a shot at vendors … as far as I can tell … short of individually teaching buyers how to authenticate IQD they’ve done what they can to protect themselves and buyers by utilizing the DLR 8625. In fact many have an authentication page showing the 25K note features on their website for this reason. And while I’m not happy with the De La Rue Corp … I’m not taking a shot at them either. What I’m really doing is shining a light on the inadequacy of the technology that is supposedly standing between us and counterfeiters. I support buying from legitimate IQD vendors with IRS/US Treasury licenses. The problem is that millions of IQD are sold on ebay, Craig’s List, and the like. I’m not saying that they are all counterfeit and I’m not saying that all vendors are solid. I’m saying that you had better know your “stuff” when buying from anyone! How much was supposedly “brought back” to the States by an acquaintance? How many times have you heard “I trust so-and-so”? When investing or exchanging your hard earned cash for IQD that just won’t cut it! I recommend learning these and the procedure that we go through is this: 1) Don’t forget that one of the simplest ways to identify an authentic IQD is to take the bill between your fingers (we recommend upper right and lower left corners with the numbers facing you that’s the front) and search for “texture” … a color copy will have none. Raised ink on a bill is a special ink and process that generally requires heat to activate (an extra step in the printing process that many counterfeiters will be unable to duplicate). 2) With it still between your fingers hold it up to the light and find the horse’s head watermark on the right of the bill (25K note) 3) Also search for the foil strip/thread usually about 40% from left edge 4) Tip the bill toward you (not flip) until it is flat and follow the foil strip from step #3 and you should see a metallic ink in small rectangles and even intervals down the backside 5) With the bill still tipped, move your eyes to the right side of the bill and find a silver dove (looks like a mustache) nearest to you which is a second metallic ink feature. 6) Straight down the bill from the dove, at the bottom of the bill is a webbed button … rock the bill back and forth slightly and verify the color changing ink feature 7) Place the backside of the bill under a black light/UV light and a small postage stamp area will glow in what looks to be a bush at about the upper right 1/3 margin. There are more features written in Eastern Arabic that are wasted on us but these 7 steps will give you the confidence that you are looking for. Educating yourself and placing yourself among the elite IQD holders is paramount in accomplishing your financial goals. And here’s a link with a partial list of the security features on the IQD if you don’t have one: http://www.iraqpapermoney.com/new/images/25000dinar.jpg I hope that this has been helpful to you. Peace Doc a.k.a. Doc31, Whatsupdoc31 (depending on what blog or forum you might be on)
    4 points
  24. I have a question. Why do people that have a black dad and a white mom tell people that they are black? Why not tell people that you are white? How about telling the truth and just say my dad is black and my mom is white? Maybe it has to do with playing the race card? Poor me..........I'm the victim..........I'm black. I am not bashing anyone with mixed parents as no one can choose who their parents are. In fact I used to have a good friend that told people he was a sand ni&&er. (Sorry for the language. I'm just telling you what he told people since he had parents from different nationalities.) I also have a daughter that was born to parents from different nationalities and she tells people she is black. This by no means has anything to do with one nationality. It happens with native americans, latinos, you name the race and you will find people throwing out the race that is the minority. Why? My desire would be that race would have no bearing on who or what a person is. I believe our govt. is the major proponant pushing the minority race card. They want people to feel like they are the victim of our society and whatever political party was in place imposing the downfall in their lives. I wish the only real question was, "Are you an American?" That is the most important question. It is good to know about you nationality and your heritage. I am not trying to put down that part of you or your families background. In fact, I support people learning about their heritage and genealogy. But, ARE YOU AN AMERICAN? If you're not, I'm fine with that too. You are then a legal immigrant or an illegal alien. If you are a legal immigrant, I applaud you for being here legally. Playing the AMERICAN card will give you all the credibilty and respect that all of us deserve. It shows that you do not believe the govt. putting into the minds of the people, that you are a victim of anything. You are responsible for your own decisions and actions. I love being an American. I am grateful for my rights and for all those who have fought and died to provide me and my family the freedoms I enjoy. We live in the greatest country on earth.
    4 points
  25. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_4c7cNCVE I've read so many rumors on this site that I don't know if I'm coming ot going. From boots on the ground to boots in the air, to naked dirty freak streakers running down the street, to the tards reposting info that was posted 6 months ago. The RV will happen when it happens, stop the madness. I've owned my Dinar since Jan 2004, put it in a safe deposit box and listen to every Tom, **** and Harry tell me how they are going to be rich tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and I wonder what's next? My advise is to close your eyes, take a deep break and relax. An investment takes time unless your the last person to jump in before the boom! Peace and hurry the F up! I'm tied of waiting!
    4 points
  26. Uhhh, I think you have G.W. confused with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid's Congress.
    4 points
  27. Take this into consideration (Just my thoughts...) There are about 3,000,000 Millionaires in America. That is roughly 1% of our population with a total net worth of $1,000,000 or more. I can't recall who posted or when it was posted but somebody put up some information (rough estimate) as to how many people hold Dinars in America.. I really don't remember exactly how many people but let's say it was around 300k people. That is 10% of the 1% already existing millionaires in America. I would say a 10% increase in millionaires is a significant increase. It is also my assumption that about 5% of Americans are business owners while the other 95% are employees. The small increase of millionaires could significantly impact jobs and the employed/unemployed. JMO
    4 points
  28. Thank you!!!! I sure hope people wake up rather than sleep walk. I sure look forward to oBOWma going back to where ever he is from.
    4 points
  29. I agree... Actually come to think of it... Franks posts aren't any harder to decipher than some of these "translated" articles that we read daily! I like him. Reminds me of a wise one - sorta like a grandpa I never had
    4 points
  30. I'm with you Joe. People, if you don't like Frank...then don't waste your time reading it. There is no point in being rude. That just shows lack of character! Have a blessed day all... Go RV!
    4 points
  31. Take this fwiw, just a follow up to the post Ron has from Ennorste.....I told myself I would not post any more GET items but could not help myself. They are calling for some news on this, this weekend so I figured I'd share. * The GET Team CC Chat : August 12, 2010 9:30PM Ctl. Allawi may be PM August 13, 2010 · Posted in · Comment [Highlander] Thanks everyone for showing up on this impromptu call[Highlander] Reason is we have information the Ennorste brought to Management call [Highlander] Terry thought it was imperative that we do a call because he feels it is very significant information [Highlander] Steve says hello to everyone. [Highlander] he believes he has god news for us all. Based on articles and is not a rumor [Highlander] INA broke away from sol [Highlander] Will align with list as well as kurds [Highlander] The official coalition will consist of the INA, list and curds [Highlander] maliki not offered a position [Highlander] Maliki’s term officially ended yesterday [Highlander] Calling for meeting asap to announce the new government [Highlander] Intel has been received that the new government will be announced on Friday and voting of positions on Saturday with RI/RV to follow. [Highlander] RV4Me333 will be posting the corresponding articles in the forum. [Highlander] this is not a call to go buy dinar [Highlander] don’t buy more than you can lose [Highlander] This info is strictly article information not intel [Highlander] don’t go out and buy more as we are only passing along information not advice to buy more [Highlander] The information was obtained from about 6 or 7 articles and it will be posted in the forum for all to read. [Highlander] Everything I am going to say is based on news articles [Highlander] The INA coalition has officially serperated from the rule of law [Highlander] malaki no longer has claim on PM as he only has 89 to Allawis 91 [Highlander] Kurds gave a list of 20 demands to the parties. Who ever agreed to the demands would get the kurds. Allawi signed off immediately. [Highlander] We are expecting the announcement for the formation on Saturday. [Highlander] members in the room last night received intel that the announcement would be made on Friday and made official on Saturday and Cash in on Monday. [RV4Me333] Hello, everyone. I am to report that I have some good news for you all. Everything that I am going to say is based upon news articles that are available to anyone, so this is not a rumor. The INA has officially separated with the State of Law, as of yesterday. They are going to align themselves with the Iraqiya List of Allawi. This means that Maliki no longer has a claim on the PM position, since he is back to 89 votes, while Allawi has 91 plus the 70 of the INA, as soon as that alliance is announced. In addition, the Kurds met with Allawi and Maliki in the last couple of days. They gave a list of 20 demands to each of the candidates and said that whoever agreed to the most demands, they would follow. Maliki balked, but Allawi signed off on all 20 demands immediately. Therefore, the official coalition will consist of the INA, Iraqiya, and the Kurds, as I stated some 8 weeks ago. Maliki will NOT be offered a position in the government. Furthermore, Talabani, who is president of the republic, announced that Maliki’s term of service is now over, as of yesterday. He further announced that he himself has Vwithdrawn his support for Maliki entirely. Finally, Talabani has also announced that the Parliament will be reconvened as soon as possible to formally announce the formation of the new government. Since tomorrow is a holy day, we should expect parliament to meet on Saturday. The announcement of the formation of the new government will open the doors for the RV/RI, which should be announced within a couple of days after that. Our long wait is nearly over. Now, this is consistent with what was announced by TerryK, Gottabme, and hifox17, who was copying a chat from hiram601 last night on chat. They all had received “intel” that the announcement of the new government would be made on Friday. This could very well happen. Then on Saturday we would have the official voting in of the 3 Presidencies, and the RV/RI will follow shortly after that, possibly as early as Monday. [RV4Me333] That’s it from Enorrste. [Highlander] There is also a rumor about the dong per TK that is may go on Friday or Saturday which kind of goes along with this information as well. [Highlander] E said all the pieces just sort of all fell together and screamed to him that it was done! [Highlander] How credible is the news source that we are getting the articles from? playing devils advocate for us. [Highlander] E is quoting the articles which you will be able to read in the forum. [Highlander] He is reading highlights of the articles. RV4Me333 is currently posting all this in the forum for you all to have access to. [Highlander] reason for the deadlock was because Maliki tried to do an end run around Allawi by forming a coalition and going to the courts. [Highlander] Allawi said not right and it was the highest number of votes at the time of the election and they have been fighting bout this for 5 months [Highlander] With the INA breaking from the Rule of Law it takes any chance Maliki had away and the Kurds Joining as well give Allawi 200+ which is more than enough. [Highlander] In Feb Shabibi said they were going to do the RI/RV this year. Allawi said when he takes office this is his number one proprity. [Highlander] It may take a few days to announce the government so don’t panic if we don’t hear about it until Monday. Then we should see the RI/RV within a few days. And yes E believes this will happen during Ramadan! [Highlander] More article analysis, which is now available to you in the forum. TamRon400] Allawi new 2 days ago this would happen. Allawi has been celebrating for the past 2 days, after curfew [TamRon400] things will be finalized friday, saturday [TamRon400] rv/ri tentatively on Monday [TamRon400] questions and answers [TamRon400] Q – great intel appreciate urgency is there anything to do ?? [TamRon400] Steve 8 reasons why this has to be done and 6 reasons why this has to happen quickly [TamRon400] Q what was said about dong [TamRon400] the source said they have reason to believe that there is a posibility of dong going friday or saturday of this week. Rumor came out prior to Dinar info. [TamRon400] Rate for Dong .05 to .06 [TamRon400] sorry got kicked off [TamRon400] how do you thing the RV will reverberate through the american economy [TamRon400] cliff not version – the funds cashed into the bank go into the federal reserve and obama will be able to stimulate economy and pay off china and we have several millionairs that will be buying cars, homes and the dollar will rise in value [TamRon400] imports will become cheaper as the dollar gets stronger [timsters] [jeweline] Questions & Answers: • Is there any law or anything that this has to be done? Answer: Not by law, but by policy yes. There are a lot of forces around the world that is pressuring Iraq to do this as soon as possible. Especially all of the countries that hav XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX • Is there any law or anything that this has to be done? Answer: Not by law, but by policy yes. There are a lot of forces around the world that is pressuring Iraq to do this as soon as possible. Especially all of the countries that have given Iraq money [TamRon400] we will be the leaders in terms of durable goods and spending, we have plenty of room to grow, the banks own a lot of property, this will flood the banks with money, interest rates will be low there will be confidence by the small business [TamRon400] at some point there will be hyper inflation due to the overspending of the government so you will have to have put your money into investments that will protect you [TamRon400] The other thing about China is they are going to get a huge boost to their economy due to our buying. TamRon400] we could end up turning the table on china as they don’t have the amount of dinars that we do [TamRon400] They will be able to create a lot of manufacturing jobs [TamRon400] china [TamRon400] There will be a high priority on GET coins [TamRon400] GET told them they would buy 100,000 of gold and silver [TamRon400] have to number the coins of the 3 amigos [TamRon400] Question – appreciate heads up, are we still looking at 3.25. Yes, we think it will be an RI and investors will jump on it so it will go up!! [TamRon400] Steve thinks it will go to 5.00 within a few months [TamRon400] are we still looking at 6 months to cash in? [TamRon400] Law – once there is an announcement there is 6 months to cash in from the date of the announcement. [TamRon400] If you have million the GET coins will be a good investment, [TamRon400] Sorry millionaires [TamRon400] There are no profits for this, if they are not all bought TK will buy them. [TamRon400] GET will not be making a dime off this. [TamRon400] Q – Iceman that was on Franks call was correct that they were partying in iraqi and lots of positive info. Answer: Yes [TamRon400] Q – Have the Kurds always have had this much influence and why now? A – they are the power broker because of the size of the other 3 groups, the 43 votes have become critical to the other sides. They have played the role very astutely. They know exactly what they are doing. Allawi could read them better than Maliki [TamRon400] The kurds knew they just had to hold off until one of the groups needed them to make the final tip one way or another. [TamRon400] in doing so they got more than any typical 3rd party would ever get [TamRon400] They were definitely in the negotiations but were not playing their cards until the end. [TamRon400] The kurds are sitting on most of the oil in Iraq [TamRon400] The end of maliki came today when talabani came out today and withdrew all support for Maliki [TamRon400] Allawi was acting presidential from the get go [TamRon400] Iran backed maliki and the other 4 countries were backing allawi [TamRon400] we will probably see maliki leave the country very soon. The CBI will be announcing the amount of funds that came up missing 386 million dollars [TamRon400] soon after rv [TamRon400] maliki ship finally sank, Talabami told Maliki that he was no longer the PM [TamRon400] when Talabami speaks everyone listens [TamRon400] sistani was highly involved in this decision [Highlander] Peeps don’t forget that the large lot is still available through the raffles! 41,800 dinar for 5.50. that could be 120,000 US dollars when this goes!!! Don’t forget to enter! TamRon400] Allawi made a fake when he said he was ready to move to Britain, he knew that Maliki had property in Britain [TamRon400] We will have the coins before next year so we don’t have to worry about the $600 reporting, they are thinking of maybe 6 oz [TamRon400] sorry 1 oz [TamRon400] long line of questions [TamRon400] Q – Allawi is new PM? When will RI/RV happen. What is rate? [TamRon400] A – Allawi has not yet been formerly announced he is forming the coalition he has a super coalition his coalition will name the PM. Gov will be formed in the next few days. Rate around 3.25 due to documentation. Frank thinks it might be higher. Reinstatement to the value of the early 80s. Probably within the week, hopefully early next week. [TamRon400] Q-how many ciitzens in us have dinar? A – approx 300,000 [TamRon400] and growing, banks are selling and not keeping numbers, we are a drop in the bucket [TamRon400] How much dinar for each person average? [TamRon400] A – 3.2 million [TamRon400] to 3.5 million [TamRon400] his delay has helped me to buy more dinar [TamRon400] Q – The bank is going to give the bank where we cash in dollar for dollar A – nobody has heard that [TamRon400] If this cashes in on monday should we cash in everything A – yes [TamRon400] Any safeguards? [TamRon400] no, obama is going to say he paid for the healthcare bill and would get elected again [TamRon400] 1. from daddy dinar – from someone who experience from Kuwait, the banks charged them 80 cents on the dollar A – yes that was true [TamRon400] Check your spread [TamRon400] locations that ali has – will there be additional sites? Check Ali’s sites [TamRon400] how can we get into the forex, can we trade directly through with what we have. No it is electronic. Steve has been talking to a friend who is doing a lot of homework right now. Looking at going from dinars to euros to avoid the taxes until you convert the euros to dollars you don’t have pay the taxes T [TamRon400] something to consider [TamRon400] What is RI/RV – RI is reinstatement of previous currency. RV is revaluation of currency which could be any number [TamRon400] Terry announced there was a bank that received the de la rue machine and was training their personnel [TamRon400] Dinarbanker will match any rate that Ali will pay, he will be in buckhead GA [TamRon400] repeat of info already said [TamRon400] forex has to be opened in his own name or company name to trade in forex [TamRon400] you can convert currencies with ali but he will not have the funds on hand [terryk] After cashing in your Dinars??? Get an unlisted telephone number. Keep things low key and quiet as you don’t want long lost family members bothering you. Contact an attorney / accountant that specializes in taxes, trusts, etc. Set up your family trust(s). Contact your bank(s) and set up POD accounts. Do not deal with banks that have derivatives and hedge funds. Set up CDARS accounts. Pay off ALL debt. Fix everything that needs repair. Upgrade your personal, home, auto and umbrella insurance. (Consider ransom insurance too!) Set aside enough liquid funds for you to survive for 2-3 years. Invest in precious metals (gold & silver). Attend seminars to make money through GOOD investments. PAY YOUR TAXES! Pick your friends judiciously. Someone will be “watching you” so you’ll want to do the following: Be very low key (non-descript). Don’t flaunt your newly obtained wealth. Open up a secure Email address. Get a new cell phone number; cancel the old one. Get a P.O. Box Put a security system in your house. Install high security Medco bolt locks. Install reflective film on your home windows. Consider building a safe room. Get training in self-defense / firearms. Use PGP (or better) encryption on your computer and Email. Don’t trust anyone … keep your friends close and your enemies closer [TamRon400] if we get euros what sort of account would be holding them in? [TamRon400] You would offically have to hold them you cannot legally put them in a deposit box [TamRon400] problem is you are talking suitcases full [TamRon400] It may not be practical [TamRon400] Would it be better to carry home smaller denominations of dinar, Answer – personal decisions no recommendations being made [TamRon400] do not mess with the IRS these people are not your friends they can freeze all your accounts!!!! [TamRon400] what about canadian dollar, the problem is you have to do this physically [TamRon400] someone just get on and would like a recap. Tina will help the person get in and it will be posted under announcements. [TamRon400] log into forum, click on announcements, GET team for a recap [TamRon400] Protect what you are about to reserve… Check into trusts [TamRon400] etsdocs is a possibility check out their conference calls tues & thur [TamRon400] pay off what you need to pay off bills until you get your trust set up [TamRon400] look into bank onto yourself [TamRon400] go to homepage scroll down to eagle financial solutions and you can watch the webinar [TamRon400] reminder to tithe and pay all you owe [TamRon400] Wants confirmation of RV next week. A – gov looks like it is forming and good probability that it would happen next week. [TamRon400] Q – if RI no taxes we are checking into it? Recommend send at least 15% and if you find out later you don’t have to pay ask for a refund [TamRon400] interesting intel e-mail sent [TamRon400] one more announcement – apologize for not having network marketing call that everyone was expecting. [TamRon400] excellent job [TamRon400] comment – get educated with financial services so you have knowledge [TamRon400] Individual called IRS and was transferred 4 times and was told it was beyond their knowledge [TamRon400] Do what is best is what he was told [TamRon400] a managed float means that it will go up not down [TamRon400] Why if we are filling out the 104 do we need a tax attorney? A – Tax attorney will charge you over $400 an hour and he is going to confirm and tell you how much you need to pay. A CPA can do the same thing. If he has a strategy make sure they are liable. TamRon400] Must pay capital gains in the quarter that the money is received. [TamRon400] go to GET site on the homepage you will see ETS docs on their [TamRon400] for Bank on Yourself same place [TamRon400] can you explain about not being able to put money in a safe deposit box. This was willie [TamRon400] willie’s answer [TamRon400] Willie left so we don’t have an answer [karen263] Q… should we pay our 35% tax, then we find we only had to pay 15% would the IRS pay us back? [karen263] A… absolutely [karen263] they’ll send you a check if we overpaid taxes. [karen263] If you can prove that you had dinars over a year is should only be 15% otherwise it probly will be 35% [karen263] We’ll have to play it by ear….talk to your cpa/tax attorn. but if in doubt pay at least 15% if not more. [karen263] Q…. this is from the floor… since ali locked us in at 150. if it goes up….are we still locked in? [karen263] A….yes we are locked in from GET team [karen263] Q…. this caller is looking for something on the site, the GET team is helping her. [karen263] A…. to ali question. Once you make appt…you have to let them know if you want to lock in at the cbi rate or wait for your appt and whatever the rate is is locked in. [karen263] sorry guys I was confused with the ali question when she first asked. karen263] Q …. it has been strongly suggested that we do not put gold/silver into bank deposit boxes…because of holidays and can confiscate. In other words not totally safe there. [karen263] should find other alternatives [karen263] caller read a verse from Hebrews…sorry didn’t get the chapt. It was about Gods Promises [karen263] Q …. is it true that the IRS will pay interest if they owe you money? [karen263] a …. Yes [karen263] Q…. from a CPA …says irs only pays interest on money they owe you if they went over 45 days [karen263] willies battery died he’s not on call [karen263] Q … he talked to cpa and was told if you transfer to gold it is treated different than currency. [karen263] Q …. in ref to lock in price with ali …. confirming what was said earlier. you can lock in rate at time of making the appt… or lock in when you show up whatever the rate will be. The G.E.T. [karen263] …. caller says was told Ali believe transfer to gold is a non taxable exchange… but we will see when the time comes. [karen263] ok…end of call . Everyone is saying gnite.
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  32. click on link to watch video. all i will say is very interesting. and disturbing if true. draw your own opinions.
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  33. Please join in prayer for families and rescue efforts. http://elkodaily.com/news/local/article_876473e8-a63f-11df-a006-001cc4c03286.html
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  34. The Obsolescence of Barack Obama The magic of 2008 can't be recreated, and good riddance to it. By FOUAD AJAMI Not long ago Barack Obama, for those who were spellbound by him, had the stylishness of JFK and the historic mission of FDR riding to the nation's rescue. Now it is to Lyndon B. Johnson's unhappy presidency that Democratic strategist Robert Shrum compares the stewardship of Mr. Obama. Johnson, wrote Mr. Shrum in the Week magazine last month, never "sustained an emotional link with the American people" and chose to escalate a war that "forced his abdication as president." A broken link with the public, and a war in Afghanistan he neither embraces and sells to his party nor abandons—this is a time of puzzlement for President Obama. His fall from political grace has been as swift as his rise a handful of years ago. He had been hot political property in 2006 and, of course, in 2008. But now he will campaign for his party's 2010 candidates from afar, holding fund raisers but not hitting the campaign trail in most of the contested races. Those mass rallies of Obama frenzy are surely of the past. Senior Economics Writer Steve Moore asks whether the President is finished as an agent of change. The vaunted Obama economic stimulus, at $862 billion, has failed. The "progressives" want to double down, and were they to have their way, would have pushed for a bigger stimulus still. But the American people are in open rebellion against an economic strategy of public debt, higher taxes and unending deficits. We're not all Keynesians, it turns out. The panic that propelled Mr. Obama to the presidency has waned. There is deep concern, to be sure. But the Obama strategy has lost the consent of the governed. Mr. Obama could protest that his swift and sudden fall from grace is no fault of his. He had been a blank slate, and the devotees had projected onto him their hopes and dreams. His victory had not been the triumph of policies he had enunciated in great detail. He had never run anything in his entire life. He had a scant public record, but oddly this worked to his advantage. If he was going to begin the world anew, it was better that he knew little about the machinery of government. He pronounced on the American condition with stark, unalloyed confidence. He had little if any regard for precedents. He could be forgiven the thought that America's faith in economic freedom had given way and that he had the popular writ to move the nation toward a super-regulated command economy. An "economic emergency" was upon us, and this would be the New New Deal. View Full Image There was no hesitation in the monumental changes Mr. Obama had in mind. The logic was Jacobin, the authority deriving from a perceived mandate to recast time-honored practices. It was veritably rule by emergency decrees. If public opinion displayed no enthusiasm for the overhaul of the nation's health-care system, the administration would push on. The public would adjust in due time. The nation may be ill at ease with an immigration reform bill that would provide some 12 million illegal immigrants a path toward citizenship, but the administration would still insist on the primacy of its own judgment. It would take Arizona to court, even though the public let it be known that it understood Arizona's immigration law as an expression of that state's frustration with the federal government's abdication of its responsibility over border security. It was clear as daylight that there was a built-in contradiction between opening the citizenship rolls to a vast flood of new petitioners and a political economy of redistribution favored by the Obama administration. The choice was stark: You could either "spread the wealth around" or open the gates for legalizing millions of immigrants of lower skills. You could not do both. It was canonical to this administration and its functionaries that they were handed a broken nation, that it was theirs to repair, that it was theirs to tax and reshape to their preferences. Yet there was, in 1980, after another landmark election, a leader who had stepped forth in a time of "malaise" at home and weakness abroad: Ronald Reagan. His program was different from Mr. Obama's. His faith in the country was boundless. What he sought was to restore the nation's faith in itself, in its political and economic vitality. Big as Reagan's mandate was, in two elections, the man was never bigger than his country. There was never narcissism or a bloated sense of personal destiny in him. He gloried in the country, and drew sustenance from its heroic deeds and its capacity for recovery. No political class rode with him to power anxious to lay its hands on the nation's treasure, eager to supplant the forces of the market with its own economic preferences. To be sure, Reagan faltered midway through his second term—the arms-for-hostages trade, the Iran-Contra affair, nearly wrecked his presidency. But he recovered, the nation rallied around him and carried him across the finish line, his bond with the electorate deep and true. He had two years left of his stewardship, and his political recovery was so miraculous that he, and his first mate, Secretary of State George P. Shultz, would seal the nation's victory in the Cold War. There is little evidence that the Obama presidency could yet find new vindication, another lease on life. Mr. Obama will mark time, but henceforth he will not define the national agenda. He will not be the repository of its hopes and sentiments. The ambition that his would be a "transformational" presidency—he rightly described Reagan's stewardship in these terms—is for naught. There remains the fact of his biography, a man's journey. Personality is doubtless an obstacle to his recovery. The detachment of Mr. Obama need not be dwelled upon at great length, so obvious it is now even to the pundits who had a "tingling sensation" when they beheld him during his astonishing run for office. Nor does Mr. Obama have the suppleness of Bill Clinton, who rose out of the debris of his first two years in the presidency, dusted himself off, walked away from his spouse's radical attempt to remake the country's health-delivery system, and moved to the political center. It is in the nature of charisma that it rises out of thin air, out of need and distress, and then dissipates when the magic fails. The country has had its fill with a scapegoating that knows no end from a president who had vowed to break with recriminations and partisanship. The magic of 2008 can't be recreated, and good riddance to it. Slowly, the nation has recovered its poise. There is a widespread sense of unstated embarrassment that a political majority, if only for a moment, fell for the promise of an untested redeemer—a belief alien to the temperament of this so practical and sober a nation. Mr. Ajami is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748704164904575421363005578460.html
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  35. I am happy that you are happy. I am happy because after seeing how hard you are defending YOUR president, I hope to get to see the You Tube video of you when you get to start paying all the taxes Osamabama and crew are enacting Jan 1, 2011. You might wanna hope and pray that the RV happens before Dec 31st 2010, because the blumbling idiot you refer to enacted tax cuts for all that YOUR president will allow to expire Dec 31. I have prepared 1000's of tax returns, before Bush, during Bush and this year. I saw first hand how many of average Americans GW's tax cuts helped. But thats another story. I hung up my calculator now mainly because I refuse to see that many hurt expressions this coming tax season when the tax laws eat them alive. Your president will go down in history....that is a fact. But, history has the ability to judge from hindsight and after all the fallout from Osamabama's policies and his giddy little cronies in congress.....I hope and pray you are not so closed minded to see how far left Obama took this country and maybe....just maybe...GOD willing.....it will not be too late to repair the damage done after the 2012 elections. Oh and FYI.....Did you ever serve in Iraq?? I did. I lost alot of friends there and am a disabled vet due to the deployment. Regrets? NO. I would go back if needed, but not for Obama. I saw WMD's there as did 1000's of others. So when you call the war a lie and the 4500 soldiers lives lost in vain...you slap the faces of every Iraqi Vet and every family that lost a loved one there.
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  36. I have no problem agreeing that politics is involved, but Sept. is too late to jump start the economy for mid-terms. Also, folks keep talking about all the taxes that this will generate from individual investors, but that will be a drop in the bucket compared to the national debt, a blip on the screen. Even if the average investor had 5 mil dinars, (and probably they don't) how many businesses would be started with that? It takes millions in start-up capital, plus a LOT of know-how, vision, etc. to start any kind of business that would hire more than a few people. And it would take a lot of time to see those businesses turn a profit to make any kind of appreciable difference. Spending by a few millionaires would help some, but again, it wouwld not be widespread enough nor sustained for long enough to register on the richter scale! JMO ... NOW, IF the USA is holding billions in dinar ... and IF they "cashed in" (which technically they won't) and IF they put all that on the national debt, (it's really getting deep, huh?) and IF they then cut spending and quit bailing out their friends (laughable now, eh?), then we could see a turn around in the economy ... still a long time out though if everything was done right!
    3 points
  37. Bla, bla, bla, "Bush lied, kids died." Isn't that getting old??? We did in fact find WMDs in Iraq. * 50 deployed Al-Samoud 2 missiles * Various equipment, including vehicles, engines and warheads, related to the AS2 missiles * 2 large propellant casting chambers * 14 155 mm shells filled with mustard gas, the mustard gas totaling approximately 49 litres and still at high purity * Approximately 500 ml of thiodiglycol * Some 122 mm chemical warheads * Some chemical equipment * 224.6 kg of expired growth media
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  38. If it wasn't for G.W. Bush, you wouldn't have the opportunity to be involved in this investment. The unemployment rate was 6.7% when Bush left office. It's now 9.5%. Oh, but that's not Obama's fault, just blame "big, bad Bush." Wow, now that's real leadership for you! Put the blame on everybody else, instead of placing the blame where it lies.
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  39. I am not a birther either, but would like to see one of two things. A birth certificate or someone hung for treason. Long live the Truth!
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  40. If it's in the news and can be confirmed then I must say this is great news. I pray for us all especially the Iragi people that we will see the govt. formed. Thanks for the great news Ron. God Bless Semper Fi
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  41. I couldn't agree with you more Joe P - after all - this chat was ripped off another site and just as families have "inside issues" that they generally do not like to have shared - I believe that Frank, in his way (take him or leave him) was talking to his dinar family.... AND offer his insights about our investment. So, like my Mother - wise woman that she is - taught me, if you don't have something nice to say ....... err on the side of kindness ... or something like that pvS
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  42. I should send Frank a link were he can buy cheap Prozac from China..... J/K, but as usual, my head hurts from his posts. pp
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  43. I think someone didn't get full nights sleep last night..........really, people who can't debate what could be a possible lie, need to check if they have their feeling sitting way out on their shoulders.I don't consider what Mr. Rich says as negative, but honest, and doubtful of SOME of the information. If you can't voice the opinion that you don't believe something, then why not just call this the ignorant dreamers dinar site. I try to surround myself with people who are truthful, and can back up what they say even if it is speculation with solid logic. Just because someone calls BS on a post, doesn't mean they are bashing the person who posted it, but they are saying they don't believe the information.I always welcome a debate over a position, AS LONG AS , it is mature, and well thought out.We aren't a bunch of children on here, so lets stop acting like children shall we?
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  44. Since you mentioned me I guess I should respond. I bought dinar in February after learning about it from a friend. He said the elections were coming up in March so I'd better hurry because it would probably RV shortly thereafter. I read up on it and felt that the dinar was undervalued, but I didn't think the whole "turn thousands into millions overnight" scenario was realistic. But just in case I was wrong I went ahead and bought, and of course nothing happened after the election because of the resulting deadlock. I kept reading about it and I found a lot of contradictory claims and analysis. One person says it's backed by their oil and another says that currency valuation doesn't work that way. One person says they have lower denominations now in Iraq and another says they don't. It was difficult to do adequate analysis on this like an American stock which I have more experience with. (I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about currency trading or forex. What drew me to this was the risk/reward aspect.) So I felt like I had to just go by what others with more knowledge and experience were saying. In May my friend gave me a link to a conference call from the GET team saying that their sources were seeing a rate of around 3.20 on the Chase boards and the RV was taking place over that weekend. Being the shmuck that I am I ordered some more thinking the issues must have been resolved and these guys had intel that I didn't have. And of course nothing happened then either. Since then I have seen one bogus RV prediction after another come and go. (The only person I know of who has been consistently right is Dustin Hayes who has been saying "no RV".) One bogus fact or claim after another debunked. I have seen "Christian" dinar gurus leading people into this investment like it's some sort of crusade, talking to their "family" in riddles and throwing out a mix of evangelism, bible prophecy, economics, and cloak and dagger intel. It's nuts I tell ya. And lest anybody start bashing me for attacking Christianity I am doing no such thing. I'm a Christian myself and that's one reason I'm so annoyed by what I am seeing here ... gullible people being led around like sheep. I have seen these things happen numerous times over the years in churches I've attended with regards to MLM programs, hot investment ideas, new "revelations" from God, personal prophecy ... etc. Jesus told his followers to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. I think most have the harmless part down, but the wise part is often lacking. Some of the easiest people to manipulate are people of faith when a person who can quote scripture and speak "Christianese" presents themselves as some kind of authority. I have now reverted to my previous view that this is a long term investment. The dinars that I bought might indeed be worth as much as a dollar in a few years if things go well in Iraq. If so I will be in great shape. Right now I don't think an RV of more than a few cents is justifiable, which would still be very profitable. I don't see how that can be construed as negative or "bashing". I don't tell anybody not to invest in the dinar, but I do tell them not to buy expecting to get rich overnight and don't spend money you need for food, clothing, and shelter. (I have actually read posts from people saying they need this RV to happen soon so they can make a house payment. MY GOD!!!) And I tell them don't buy until you can explain your reasons better than "well, just read what Joe Guru says." If an RV occurs this year and the rate is $2-3 I'll be celebrating right along with everybody else, of course. But I'm not counting on it like some apparently are.
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  45. LOL I've got God children and Grandchildren ... I get out just fine ... but thankyou Thanks, but I disagree ... if only one person rests easier, doesn't get scammed, or personally benefits from the time I spent compiling that info ... it was worth it! Actually, I enjoyed the chase! But thanks for watching my intensity level ... LOL Peace Zantac Doc31
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  46. Kurds suspend Baghdad talks temporarily Friday, August 13th 2010 4:12 PM Erbil, Aug. 13 (AKnews) – The Kurdish negotiating team in Baghdad has temporarily suspended talks with other parliamentary blocs until they respond “clearly” to a set of Kurdish conditions for any future alliance with the blocs, said a Kurdish lawmaker on Friday. The Kurdistan Blocs Coalition (KBC), representing Kurds in the Iraqi parliament handed a 19-point proposal to the leaders of other blocs asking them to declare their positions on the conditions. The KBC has 57 seats in the 325-member parliament. The most prominent conditions set forth by KBC is a commitment to the federal structure of Iraq and the implementation of the Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution, which has proposed plans to settle territorial disputes between Kurds and other Iraqi factions. Kurds hope carrying out Article 140 of the Constitution will lead to the annexation of areas in Kirkuk, Nineveh, Diyala and Salahaddin provinces to their Kurdistan Region. “I expect that we hear back from other blocs on Monday or Tuesday next week and we will resume talks again,” said Dara Mohammed, a Kurdish lawmaker. The new round of talks between the KBC and other blocs come after five months of political crisis due to the failure of the country’s political forces to form a new government. Meanwhile, Mohsen Saadoun, another Kurdish parliamentarian, told AKnews that the KBC does not oppose or support any prime minister candidate “until we learn about his bloc’s response to our conditions and demands.” "Next week, the (KBC) will decide on which bloc it wants to support,” Saadoun said. “In the latest gatherings of the KBC with the leaders of the first three top ranking blocs in the elections – al-Iraqiya, the State of Law Coalition (SLC), and the Iraqi National Alliance (INA) – the Kurdish side urged leaders to "clearly voice their positions concerning each of its conditions.” The major rivalry over the post of the prime minister is between the SLC, led by the outgoing Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and al-Iraqiya, led by the former PM Ayad Allawi. Both leaders are nominated by their blocs for the prime minister’s position. For his part, Izzat Shabandar, a member of the SLC, stated that his bloc would study the provisions made by Kurdish bloc and will declare its position later. Commenting on KBC's requirements, Shabandar said "they are all constitutional but the process demands some compromise". Lh/Ms/Sm/AKnews http://www.aknews.co...knews/4/173402/
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  47. Male Date-Drug Police are warning all men who frequent clubs, parties & local pubs to be alert and stay cautious when offered a drink by any woman. Many females use a date-drug on the market called 'Beer ' . The drug is found in liquid form and is available anywhere. It comes in bottles, cans, or from taps and in large kegs. Beer is used by female sexual predators at parties and bars to persuade their male victims to go home and sleep with them. A woman needs only to get a guy to consume a few units of Beer and then simply ask him home for no-strings-attached sex. Men are rendered helpless against this approach. After several Beers , men will often succumb to the desires to sleep with horrific looking women to whom they would never normally be attracted. After drinking Beer , men often awaken with only hazy memories of exactly what happened to them the night before, often with just a vague feeling that 'something bad' occurred. At other times these unfortunate men are swindled out of their life's savings, in a familiar scam known as 'a relationship' . In extreme cases, the female may even be shrewd enough to entrap the unsuspecting male into a longer-term form of servitude and punishment referred to as 'marriage'. Men are much more susceptible to this scam after Beer is administered and sex is offered by the predatory females. Please forward this warning to every male you know. If you fall victim to this 'Beer ' scam and the women administering it, there are male support groups where you can discuss the details of your shocking encounter with similarly victimized men. For the support group nearest you, just look up 'Golf Courses' in the phone book.
    2 points
  48. Because of how bad things are right now with the lack of leadership and the political vacuum they would not just be sitting back and letting the citizens kill eachother so they can come out with this on a specific date.....if everyone was selected and in place then they would have come out already to get things rolling with their economy.....the people are rioting and protesting because of all the simple things that need addressing and the world leaders would not let this continue just so they could come out on one specific date with releasing this information.....and our govt is not holding back the process of things either....we have stepped back completely to let them handle it themselves....no matter when the rv happens or the govt seats it will in no way make obama look good to anyone....he has NOTHING to do with the war in Iraq....no matter what happens over there good or bad it will be placed on Bush's shoulders because he is the one that started all this.....only thing obama is doing is sticking to a date to pull troops out....doesnt take a magical, fearless, awesome leader to do that when its been in the works for years to begin with.....If Iraq fails people are going to look at bush, if Iraq progresses and has much success, people are going to look at bush......
    2 points
  49. Kaka, Good for you. You are studying your investment with the rest of us...Go RV.. and thanks for the post.
    2 points


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